[Byxtysaaqwuz]

Bismillah,

Assalamu alaikum.

I wanted to know if anyone knows who Maulana Abdur Rahman Kailani is. My father bought a book called "Shariat wa Tariqat" by this person, and he has been writing many negative things about Sufis. At one point he wrote that Maulana Ahsraf Ali Thanwi wrote to a murid of his who used to say, "La ilaha illallah wa Ashraf Thanwi Rasulullah" rather than "Muhammad Rasullulah" that he did so because of his love for Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi. He said that this was deviant and that Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi should have said "This is kufr and seek repentance."

I am not a Deobandi nor a Barelwi, but my murshid is Arab. I do sometimes feel that Desi Sufis are a little weird at times. But since this author, Maulana Abdur Rahman Kailani, is from India, I wanted to know if anyone knows about him and whether he is legitimate or not, especially those brothers who are in a tariqa from the Subcontinent, or whether he has an agenda and generalize things against the Sufis by the action of some deviant Sufis (because I know there are deviant Sufis roaming around).

I mean no offense in anyway, inshaAllah, I hope to be educated.

JazakAllah khayran

Ma'salama

[Unamannuato]

Ok this is what actually happened. A mureed of Hakeem ul-Ummat Mawlana Thanwi saw a dream where he was saying, "La ilaha illalah, Ashraf Ali Rasool Allah." Same thing happened to the mureed when he woke up, and he said he tried to read the Kalima correctly, but it wouldn't come out of his mouth, as he had lost control over his tongue. He was scared and confused.

So the next morning he came to Mawlana Thanwi and related the dream. So Mawlana Thanwi told him, one possible interpretation of this dream is that you really love your Shaykh.

Now Beralwis take this and do takfeer of Mawlana Thanwi? Beralwis take this and say that Hazrat Thanwi claimed Prophethood.

First of all, anything that said in the state of sleep or half sleep, a person is not responsible for it, as it is clearly stated in many hadith and books of fiqh. If a person give talaq to his wife while sleeping, it's not valid. If you accept Islam or leave it while in the state of dream, its not valid. Similir is the ruling if a person is drunk, and he utter anything kufar, he wont be held responsible for it.

Nor is there any punishment for things said by mistake or when you have no control over yourself.

Infact, a similir incident is related by Hazrat Nizam ul-Deen Chishti about Hazrat Shaykh Shibli in Sultan al-Arifeen Siraj al-Salikeen, that once a mureed came to Shaykh Shibli and asked to become mureed of him. Shaykh told him only on one condition. If you say, "La ilaha illalah, Shibli Rasool Allah." So the mureed did, then Hazrat told him, this was just a test for you. Why Beralwis don't do takfeer of the above Awliya for this, when one is dream, other is not a dream.

Lastly, sometimes you see a dream that might sound wrong if you the it in literel sense, but it can be given a good interpretation.

It is well known that Imam Abu Hanifa saw a dream that he went to the grave of Prophet and took out the blesssed body of Prophet from the grave. When Imam woke up, he was scared and sweating. He ran to his teacher and told him about the dream. So the teacher told him, if you have really seen this dream, then it means that you will follow the ahadith of Prophet and dug out the rulings of Sharia in everyway possible and spread the Sharia to different corvers of the World. As we know this interpretation came true.

This dream is related in Tabeer al-Ruya, Tareekh al-Badhdad, Manaqib Karwari, Miftah al-Sa'ada, al-Khayrat al-Hisan, and many more.

It is related that wife of Harood Rasheed [Queen Zubaida] saw a dream that a large group of people were engaging in a sexual act with her. She was told that it means you will do such an act that a large number of people will benefit from you. As we know she ordered that a river be dug up and large especially when Hujjaj would go to Hajj, they would benefit from this river. Its known as River Zubaida.

I can relate many similir incidents of the above sort, but for now this should be enough.

And if you can read Urdu, for more details refer to "Ibarat-e-Akabir" by Muhaqqiq Allamah Sarfraz Khan Safdar.

http://www.4shared.com/file/16295243...ified=fa109d20

[Byxtysaaqwuz]

Bismillah,

Assalamu alaikum Sidi Khanbaba,

JazakAllah khayran for the claification. I had a feeling that Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi's words were taken out of context. I have tremendous respect for Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi and the Deobandis. After the Arab 'Ulema, I turn to the Deobandi 'Ulema for knowledge, especially with the Hanafi madhab. I meant no offense.

But, by chance, would you know who this Maulana Abdur Rahman Kailani is? Because he keeps writing things against the Sufis. And my father is buying into what he is saying. I tried defending Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi and the true and sincere Sufis, but my father is only heeding to what this author is saying.

He also mentioned that Khidr (alayhis salam) was a jinn or non-human as Maulana Maududi once said, and not a Prophet or a Saint as I have heard more schoalrs say he was either a Prophet or a Saint. That is why I am curious as to how legitimate he is.

Once again I meant no offense.

JazakAllah khayran,

Ma'salama

[Unamannuato]

I have never heard of him before.

At first I thought he was Beralwi as per his attack on Hazrat Thanwi .

But if search his name on Yahoo, it takes you to Dar-us-Salam Publications. They have few of his books there. So he can be a "modern" Ahle Hadees and might also be affected by Maududi and his thoughts.

[Byxtysaaqwuz]

Bismillah,

That is what I thought too. I did see his publications at the Dar-us-Salam site. And I don't think he is Barelwi. But he did say some things about Deobandis, too. He is generalizing all the Sufis with the fake Sufis. Unfortunately, I can't read Urdu, so I don't know what else he is saying. My father said that he said things against Imam Ghazali (rahimAllah). He references Sufi texts and says how deviant they are. I do think he is some modern Ahl al-Hadith guy. Some of the arguments the guy used didn't seem to make sense. Allahu 'alam.

JazakAllah khayran for your help though, Sidi.

Ma'salama

[Pharmadryg]

He is well known Ahle Hadith scholar. He has authored several book on tafsir, refutation of Parwezi, modernist etc. I've read Shariat ya Tariqat. His writing style is great.

[toksenveste]

asslmlkm
these kelanees r irritating

this can through some light

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post667572

[GrottereewNus]

asslmlkm
these kelanees r irritating

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[Pharmadryg]

Iqbal Kilani has just collected different narrations by a suitable chapter name. Its kind of Bulughul Maram and Umdatul Ahkam. By the way, he has several books on fiqhi topics as well as aqidah and paradise, hell, judgement day etc. Thats fall under his series ''silsila tafheem assunnah''.

[toksenveste]

Iqbal Kilani has just collected different narrations by a suitable chapter name. Its kind of Bulughul Maram and Umdatul Ahkam. By the way, he has several books on fiqhi topics as well as aqidah and paradise, hell, judgement day etc. Thats fall under his series ''silsila tafheem assunnah''.

remove that deceiving title of madhab..
u r a ghair muqallid
y have u deleted the below post

If Iqbal Kilani's book irritate you then i feel sorry for you. He has just collected different narrations by a suitable chapter name. Although his muqaddima could be irritating for you, but thats nothing advanced.

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[Pharmadryg]

remove that deceiving title of madhab..
u r a ghair muqallid
y have u deleted the below post


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Bcz i didnt want to irritate you with that comment. However that is still true... I've seen some of his books, and those are quite simple. Its apparent that the book is written not for critical purpose. Salaam.