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11-19-2011, 10:58 PM | #1 |
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11-21-2011, 03:11 PM | #2 |
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11-21-2011, 03:27 PM | #3 |
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11-23-2011, 05:33 AM | #6 |
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11-23-2011, 05:53 AM | #7 |
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I live in New York and have worked in 3 hospitals. All had prayer rooms, but they were all multi-faith chapels. However, they are usually empty and Muslims are mostly the only ones that use them. Usually there is a cabinet with some prayer rugs and possibly a Quran. There are usually no overt religious symbols like crucifixes hanging up. Jumuah services are conducted as well. Other hospitals may differ in these particulars, but I am sure nearly all of them will have prayer rooms (especially in large, cosmopolitan states like NY, CA, IL, etc). |
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11-23-2011, 06:08 AM | #8 |
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Thank you very much. This is very encouraging. Do you speak from experience? Do you work in healthcare? Bother NNoor's post pretty much sums up the environments of hospitals from my experience. |
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11-23-2011, 09:38 AM | #9 |
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dear brothers and sisters, |
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11-24-2011, 04:22 AM | #10 |
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Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatUllahi wa barakathuhu,
I live in the u.s. but i have not come across any so far... there are usually empty rooms or office areas which insha'Allah i think u would be allowed to pray in any empty space as long as its not in the way of patients and other hospital workers. Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatUllahi wa barakathuhu |
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11-24-2011, 05:01 AM | #11 |
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I usually make people jump in that room when going for salaah, there will be a staff member sitting in there to get some quiet shut eye with lights dimmed and I rush in there for salaah quickly open the door and flip the lights - this has made many people jump out their seat. Today I went in for Asr salaah there was a guy sitting there I have seen him a few times, he sits there half asleep half awake and I do my salaah and leave. Coworkers have come in there with me at times when I went to go pray. Every hospital I been to has had a "meditation room" or "quiet room" anyone can go in and do their worship or just to sit quietly. Alhamdulillah we have had even jummah salaah too with azan khutbah salaah, open to the public to attend.
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11-25-2011, 12:26 AM | #12 |
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11-27-2011, 08:38 AM | #13 |
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Today I went for Asr salaat and there was a Jew sitting there wearing the hat they wear and for some reason a red string on his left arm. He was painting with his daughter, she looked like she was 3 years old. I walked in there, he jumped. I say, "Hello, I have to pray." He gives typical Jew response; just a blank, scared face. I say, "Its ok, you dont have to move or leave. Continue as you were." I start the salaah and finish and then leave telling him, "Ok enjoy and have a good day." He was just sitting there so shocked - am I an alien from Mars?? LOL so funny, his face was just blank, scared, he looked soo awkward! But whatever, this is a hospital not a kindergarten he can go color somewhere else its my salaah time.
For maghrib one of the patient transport staff, an African American woman, was there talking on phone, I went in and told her same thing that she doesnt have to leave continue what shes doing. She was very respectful though, left the room and after I left she asked me outside if I was done and then she went back in. These encounters are becoming more and more regular now. Daily I am running into people. Eventually these people will get used to it and they will know that at such and such time these Muslims pray. The issue with them fearing Muslims is that they dont have much exposure to Islam and in some cases the exposure they have to Islam is via media and of improper Islam. |
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11-27-2011, 10:43 AM | #14 |
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11-27-2011, 11:12 AM | #15 |
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See the thing is most kuffar only see what's in the media and very rarely do they come across practicing people. The reason why the kuffar in the UK to a certain extent are more accomdating to Muslims in comparison to other western countries lies in the fact that many of the kuffar have got used to Muslims praying in public etc. It is not longer something very strange. The same with the beard and even hijab (not niqab). The lesson is the more we practice Islam the more the ways will open for us inshallah and even if tests come we shall inshallah be prepared for them.
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11-27-2011, 12:14 PM | #16 |
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Is there any one from the US here? I thought there were many Muslims working in health care in the US. |
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11-27-2011, 01:34 PM | #17 |
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One thing we Muslims should do at these places where we are allowed to pray: Find out who is incharge of the religious services, the person who oversees the activities for the prayer room even if its just your boss at work then get a small "thank you" card and write a nice note in there "Thank you for providing a room for me to offer my prayers I greatly appreciate it." It will cost you a dollar or two, its a small gesture of appreciation but it goes a long way and it further makes it easy for yourself and other Muslims or Muslims who will be hired there in the future to offer salaah. It also gives the non Muslims an indication of just how serious we are about our prayers and what kind of relationship we have with our Creator. They will offer you their cards to make dua for them.
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11-27-2011, 02:26 PM | #18 |
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This is in response to NNoor comment about the Hasidim, hes right on point. I practically live in Tel Aviv. I once heard something about where I live, like its the most Jewish populated area outside of Israel or something I am not sure but I will look it up. I am all surrounded by these Hasidic Jews, straight up gypsies bro! Every block has a synagogue, in many places there will be two facing each other on the same block. There is a synagogue down the street from my crib its open 24/7 and for truth I see kids going in there at 9am, 6pm, 3am anytime you go see there you will see rows of bicycles and kids going in and out its like revolving door. I dont know what they are doing there, my guess is waiting for Dajjal. Every synagogue has a big sign outside "support Israel, give 5%". They mean to give 5% of your annual income to the Jewish cause.
My neighbors are all Hasidim Jews, very isolated community. These are the strangest people I have ever met. I dont know where these people work or what they do, they have their own schools, they have their own stores and thats it, they just stay in their circle. They have hardcore sense of community, I mean they have their own vans running the streets to drive other Jews to get groceries. They even have a private Jewish security patrol. They opened their own Jewel here, its 24/7 and has one section for common food and a totally separate section for strict kosher food and a totally seperate kosher deli. I met the guy who was influential in establishing that, he was very proud of his accomplishment. His name is Yosef. I go to that Jewel sometimes and I get the weirdest vibe there, you can tell no one wants me around. Its fun though, I will go in there sometime just to browse for an hour, not buy a single thing but just walk around reading labels and ingredients, they can keep eyes on me but I know they cant kick me out. In fact, I might just get up and go there after posting this just for kicks. Jews are very scared to lose any amount of money, a penny of money. I have been around them since 2007, my neighbors have not responded to a single "hello" of mine since then. On the bus, on the train, at work, my neighbors, all Jews. The other day I was on the bus surrounded by a gang of Hasidim synagogue students. These Hasidim are often classless people who make racist comments even in a business environment, they totally hate sunnah and they totally hate niqab. A little further north from here is a very rich area, all top elite Jews. They used to live here with the Hasidim, they lived here most of their lives and then went up there, I see most Jews following that pattern. They are here for a while and then go up north to the woods. They are not Hasidim I forget what they are called but they keep pure American names, they will change names just to fit in with American public. They hide their Jewish identity and then will make a racist comment against Jews just to see your reaction, so you have to becareful. Coworker is wearing a David star gold chain and says to me, "I so hate Jews, they do so much evil, dont you agree?" I just dont say anything. I just dont engage these Jews in these topics. I used to work for a Jew doctor, we used to be out on the road a lot seeing patients and I would have to go to his office from time to time to do stuff. His office was run by his daughter and all of her friends. I would have to go there to do light office work for the doc - most awkward situation there. It seemed this was the first time any of these girls met a non Jew, and to top it off, a Muslim man. I learned a lot about Jews and Jewish women there. The girls father had set up the office to accomodate them and me. So they all would be on one side and I would be on opposite side and we would interact strictly out of necessity. They didnt look at me and I didnt look at them - there was a lot of tension in the room which was good. They are die-hard lovers of their faith, they absolutely love who they are. They have huge pride about being Jewish. They absolutely love their language and dislike speaking in English. They were forced to only speak in English at the office because of me, since I didnt understand Hebrew they had to stop using it in the office and often made comments against English. They hate USA for real, and they love Israel and talk about what its like to visit there and they plan yearly trips to Israel for hiking and camping, they love and adore everything Jewish they are like very fanatical about it. I dont know how they are with their Jewish males but I know they interact with males of other faiths only out of necessity - I can only imagine how they raise their children. It was nice working there because there was very minimum interaction between genders, strictly out of necessity. The doc knew Muslims dont interact with strange women, his girl and her friends didnt interact with strange men, it was smooth sailing. If they ever baked stuff and brought it to work I never would take a bite of it - next thing you know its poisoned and Fusus is out of here. I have two big Jewish schools by my house, I used to have three but that one closed because another bigger one opened down the block. The kids are like KG-1st and 2nd grade but I dont know what they are made of because it will be like negative 1 outside, full blizzard, and you see promptly at 10am the kids are out at recess playing for 1 hour non stop. Other schools will not allow children to play outside in the same weather that these little Jew kids are playing outside in. I assume its to toughen the kids up. They are the most wild children I have ever seen in my life. They say there are only like 300 million something jews in the world, I can tell you, this is a lie. There are probably 300 million jews just around where I live. I have tried to talk to many Jews to find out what they believe in, no one has given me a straight answer. I am getting the run around with that question. One thing is certain though - they are crazy in love with everything that is Jewish. They might not be practicing at all but they love Judaism and anything Jewish they support it. A lesbian "reformed" jew will have the same respect and same support for Israel that a Hasidim Rabbi would. Within themselves they have many many groups and divisions and they argue and fight a lot especially over religious matters. They are quite divided within themselves but against the world and especially against Muslims they are die hard united. |
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11-27-2011, 02:38 PM | #19 |
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Mashallah fusoos you know 1 thing I respect about jews. They have stuck to their religion and culture. You always see them going to pray etc and they help each other out. We the people of haq are not as steadfast on the haq whereas such people of batil are so firm and steadfast on their batil. I remember a lady a 7th day adventist would openly speak against homasexuality at work, she would constantly have her bible with her, quote it, and wake up at like 2-3AM each day and pray. I used to think if people of batil can work so hard why not ahle haq?
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11-27-2011, 02:46 PM | #20 |
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Mashallah fusoos you know 1 thing I respect about jews. They have stuck to their religion and culture. You always see them going to pray etc and they help each other out. We the people of haq are not as steadfast on the haq whereas such people of batil are so firm and steadfast on their batil. I remember a lady a 7th day adventist would openly speak against homasexuality at work, she would constantly have her bible with her, quote it, and wake up at like 2-3AM each day and pray. I used to think if people of batil can work so hard why not ahle haq? |
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