[Nfvzjvcl]

I was reading an article on proof of existence of Allah, not that I need it, but more for dawah purposes and inshaAllah will increase my imaan too. I'm having trouble understanding this paragraph. If any philosophical people out there can clarify, that'd be great.

Here it is:

The direct opposite of ‘Everything which begins to exist must have a cause’ is ‘Not everything which begins to exist must have a cause’, which is in the power of ‘Some things which begin to exist do not have a cause’. Anything which begins to exist by definition can not be necessarily existent [whether such a category actually exists or not is not the point currently. Our opponent is free to believe that it is purely hypothetical]. Otherwise it would have been existent since eternity past, since necessarily existent means its very nature requires for it to exist in which case it cannot have a beginning for its existence. Similarly, it can not be impossible because impossible things do not happen in which case it would not have begun to exist. Since such a thing can neither be necessary, nor impossible, it must be merely possible (another word for which is contingent). Therefore, with respect to the very nature of such a thing, both existence and non-existence are equal. That it is to say, there is nothing in its very nature which requires existence (since it is not necessary), nor is there anything in its very nature which requires non-existence (since it is also not impossible). Thus the two are indeed equal.

taken from : http://www.deoband.org/2010/03/aqida...-of-a-creator/

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[Nfvzjvcl]

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[loolitoertego]

I was reading an article on proof of existence of Allah, not that I need it, but more for dawah purposes and inshaAllah will increase my imaan too. I'm having trouble understanding this paragraph. If any philosophical people out there can clarify, that'd be great.

Here it is:

The direct opposite of ‘Everything which begins to exist must have a cause’ is ‘Not everything which begins to exist must have a cause’, which is in the power of ‘Some things which begin to exist do not have a cause’. Anything which begins to exist by definition can not be necessarily existent [whether such a category actually exists or not is not the point currently. Our opponent is free to believe that it is purely hypothetical]. Otherwise it would have been existent since eternity past, since necessarily existent means its very nature requires for it to exist in which case it cannot have a beginning for its existence. Similarly, it can not be impossible because impossible things do not happen in which case it would not have begun to exist. Since such a thing can neither be necessary, nor impossible, it must be merely possible (another word for which is contingent). Therefore, with respect to the very nature of such a thing, both existence and non-existence are equal. That it is to say, there is nothing in its very nature which requires existence (since it is not necessary), nor is there anything in its very nature which requires non-existence (since it is also not impossible). Thus the two are indeed equal.

taken from : http://www.deoband.org/2010/03/aqida...-of-a-creator/

How can this be used for dawah purpose when you dont understand it? How does this help to increase eeman?

[Nfvzjvcl]

How can this be used for dawah purpose when you dont understand it? How does this help to increase eeman?

Yeah, if i understand it then i can use it otherwise, not. And it could help with imaan because it further disproves the disbelievers.

[Goalseexere]

Yeah, if i understand it then i can use it otherwise, not. And it could help with imaan because it further disproves the disbelievers.

Unless you can physically show these atheists Allah - they will never beleive you - no matter how many verbal acrobatics you perform for them. If Allah wanted to prove His existance to them, surelyn He could, yet he remains hidden to them because they have turned their backs on Him.

Think about this - have you ever heard a non-Muslim pronounce the name of Allah? they usually pronounce it as "AAla" - In His infinite wisdom he has even deprived them of the virtue of simply saying his Beloved Isma.

Before these atheistic kuffar can even begin to heal their hearts,they must first open their hearts up to the possibility of Supreme Inteligent Creator - and most refuse to do so.

[Nfvzjvcl]

Unless you can physically show these atheists Allah - they will never beleive you - no matter how many verbal acrobatics you perform for them. If Allah wanted to prove His existance to them, surelyn He could, yet he remains hidden to them because they have turned their backs on Him.

Think about this - have you ever heard a non-Muslim pronounce the name of Allah? they usually pronounce it as "AAla" - In His infinite wisdom he has even deprived them of the virtue of simply saying his Beloved Isma.

Before these atheistic kuffar can even begin to heal their hearts,they must first open their hearts up to the possibility of Supreme Inteligent Creator - and most refuse to do so.

Akhi, a lot of reverts can't pronounce Allah's ta 'ala name correctly, even some shaykhs. I know if Allah subhana ta 'ala wants to prove His existence He can do it effortlessly. But then again it's our job to give dawah. I'm not trying convince this person (my friend actually) but more so relay the message to the best of my ability. Our ulema would not have gone to great lengths and write such articles if they felt how you feel. Lastly, there are so many athiests that have reverted to islam, and I would believe it was articles/proofs like this that must have helped many of them. I mean I do believe the best way to come to deen is through the heart and observing the signs of Allah subhana ta 'ala. But still there some that just need this logic/reasoning type of dawah, at least in the beginning. Wallahu 'alam.