[SOgLak]

Yahya ibn Yahya al-Laythi, who related from his teacher Imam Malik, who related from Muhammad ibn Yusuf, who said that as-Saaib ibn Yazid said, "Umar ibn Khattab (Allah be pleased with him) ordered Ubayy ibn Ka'b and Tamim ad-Dari (Allah be pleased with them) to watch the night in prayer with the people for eleven rak'ahs. The reciter of the Qur'an would recite the Mi'in (a group of medium sized surah's) until we would be leaning on our staffs from having stood so long in prayer. And we would not leave until the approach of dawn.(Muwatta-Imam Malik)

This is the strong proof claim by salafi for taraweeh being 8 rakat.I need the refutation of salafi claim in arabic with english translation with references as i am in need to doc the entire thing,Or you can translate this refutation in arabic with exact references. Here is the link http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/8or20.htm

[Kalobbis]

كتاب الصلاة فى رمضان

{ وَحَدَّثَنِى عَنْ مَالِكٍ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ يُوسُفَ عَنِ السَّائِبِ بْنِ يَزِيدَ أَنَّهُ قَالَ أَمَرَ عُمَرُ بْنُ الْخَطَّابِ أُبَىَّ بْنَ كَعْبٍ وَتَمِيمًا الدَّارِىَّ أَنْ يَقُومَا لِلنَّاسِ بِإِحْدَى عَشْرَةَ رَكْعَةً قَالَ وَقَدْ كَانَ الْقَارِئُ يَقْرَأُ بِالْمِئِينَ حَتَّى كُنَّا نَعْتَمِدُ عَلَى الْعِصِىِّ مِنْ طُولِ الْقِيَامِ وَمَا كُنَّا نَنْصَرِفُ إِلاَّ فِى فُرُوعِ الْفَجْرِ . }

تم ترجمة هذا الحديث للغات التالية

Yahya related to me from Malik from Muhammad ibn Yusuf that as-Sa'ib ibn Yazid said, "Umar ibn al-Khattab ordered Ubayy ibn Kab and Tamim ad-Dari to watch the night in prayer with the people for eleven rakas.The reciterof the Qur'an would recite the Mi'in (a group of medium-sized suras) until we would be leaning on our staffs from having stood so long in prayer. And we would not leave until the approach of dawn."

Muwatta al-Imam Malik, Prayer in Ramadan, Hadith Number:250, Narrated by: Omar Ibnul-Khattab


http://www.hadithtranslations.com/Ah...hadithID=20932


Edit: Its hadith no: 6.2.4 in English edition http://www.searchtruth.com/book_disp...0&number=6.2.4

[Kalobbis]

Thanx for the link with the refutation of 8/11 rakats http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/8or20.htm

[SOgLak]

Thanx for the link with the refutation of 8/11 rakats http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/8or20.htm

brother needed the entire refutation in arabic with english.

[Kalobbis]

brother needed the entire refutation in arabic with english.

Oh like that. I don't know arabic unfortunately. Will have to wait for someone with good grasp to translate it.