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Old 11-16-2011, 05:41 PM   #1
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Prostration mark is it good for muslim?

Is there is any proof about this in quran and hadith?
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:59 PM   #2
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no a bazurg told me it does not mean anything. it is not a sign of piety, it is a sign that a person presses his head hard on the floor that is all.
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Old 11-16-2011, 08:18 PM   #3
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Prostration mark is it good for muslim?

Is there is any proof about this in quran and hadith?



Plz check this in Tafseer ‘The mark of them is on their foreheads from the traces of prostration’.(Q.XLVIII:29

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Old 11-16-2011, 08:28 PM   #4
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"Seemaahum fee wujuhihim min atharis sujud"

Surah Al-Fath
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Old 11-16-2011, 08:29 PM   #5
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I thought that ayah was referring to dust from the ground because at that time it was not carpeted/paved.
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Old 11-16-2011, 08:36 PM   #6
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Plz check this in Tafseer ‘The mark of them is on their foreheads from the traces of prostration’.(Q.XLVIII:29

wa assalam..



Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward. (Al-Fath 48:29)

Tafseer of the part 'Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration' in Ma'ariful Quran:




These distinguishing features do not necessarily refer to any physical sign on the forehead on account of
constant prostration. This in fact refers to the light and brightness that is reflected naturally on the faces
of the devout as a result of humility,meekness and gentleness of disposition.
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Old 11-16-2011, 08:58 PM   #7
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I thought that ayah was referring to dust from the ground because at that time it was not carpeted/paved.


Just read up on that Aayah in Ma'aariful Qur'aan and it's mentioned that it does not necessarily refer to any physical sign on the forehead but refers to the the light and brightness that is reflected naturally on their faces as a result of their tawadhu' and akhlaaq. All that is on account of Salah being a permanent routine in their lives.

Here's the translation of the part of the aayah from Qur'aan Made Easy:

Their hallmark (by which they are recognized) is on their faces because of the effects of prostration (referring to the illumination and humility apparent on their faces).

Fath:29






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Old 11-16-2011, 09:19 PM   #8
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Just read up on that Aayah in Ma'aariful Qur'aan and it's mentioned that it does not necessarily refer to any physical sign on the forehead but refers to the the light and brightness that is reflected naturally on their faces as a result of their tawadhu' and akhlaaq. All that is on account of Salah being a permanent routine in their lives.

Here's the translation of the part of the aayah from Qur'aan Made Easy:

Their hallmark (by which they are recognized) is on their faces because of the effects of prostration (referring to the illumination and humility apparent on their faces).

Fath:29
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:36 PM   #9
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...but isnt there a hadith which says something like muslims who will be thrown in the fire will be taken out after years of suffering, and their mutiliated bodies would be recognized by the marks caused due to praying, does that refer to the physical marks or not?
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:46 PM   #10
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...but isnt there a hadith which says something like muslims who will be thrown in the fire will be taken out after years of suffering, and their mutiliated bodies will be recognizable by the marks caused due to praying, does that refer to the physical marks or not?
Yes i have read sth along those lines. it is in Faqih Abul Lais' Tambeehul Ghafeleen i think.... may be not the exact one but sth abt having signs of prayer and fasting for the faasiq jahannamies. not sure if its physical or spiritual signs though...

can any1 clarify pls?
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:00 PM   #11
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Bismillah
Reported in Sahih al-Bukhari, the Prophet (salAllahu `alaihi wa sallam) said:
Some of the people will stay in Hell (be destroyed) because of their (evil) deeds, and some will be cut or torn by the hooks (and fall into Hell) and some will be punished and then relieved. When Allah (subhanu wa ta'ala) has finished His Judgments among the people, He will take whomever He will out of Hell through His Mercy.
He will then order the angels to take out of the Fire all those who used to worship none but Allah from among those whom Allah wanted to be merciful to and those who testified (in the world) that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah. The angels will recognize them in the Fire by the marks of prostration (on their foreheads), for the Fire will eat up all the human body except the mark caused by prostration as Allah has forbidden the Fire to eat the mark of prostration. They will come out of the (Hell) Fire, completely burnt and then the water of life will be poured over them and they will grow under it as does a seed that comes in the mud of the torrent.
Then Allah will finish the judgments among the people, and there will remain one man facing the (Hell) Fire and he will be the last person among the people of Hell to enter Paradise. He will say, 'O my Lord! Please turn my face away from the fire because its air has hurt me and its severe heat has burnt me.'
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:25 PM   #12
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I heard a related hadith in the taleem of muntakhab today that this mark is very beloved to Allah(swt)..
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:47 PM   #13
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I thought that ayah was referring to dust from the ground because at that time it was not carpeted/paved.
That view actually does exist; it is attributed to Sa'id ibn Jubayr and 'Ikrimah.
Abu al-'Aliyah said, "They prostrate on earth, not on cloth."

Some of the varying opinions regarding the meaning of this verse:

- Nur and whiteness on their faces on the Day of Judgment, through which it will be known that the prayed during their lifetimes.
- Their appearance will be marked with beauty, reverence, and humility as a result of their devotion to prayers.
- Yellowness in their faces as a result of spending the night awake.
- Appearing ill, when in fact they are not.
- The remnants/mark of dust on their forehead due to prostrating on earth.

Ref: Ma'alim al-Tanzil of al-Baghawi

After scanning different tafasir, it seems that the first two seem to be the most prevalent opinions.
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:03 PM   #14
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I heard a related hadith in the taleem of muntakhab today that this mark is very beloved to Allah(swt)..


It must be the one about meeting Allah without a mark of struggle means meeting Him with a flaw. And one definition is a mark while rendering His service.
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:36 PM   #15
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It must be the one about meeting Allah without a mark of struggle means meeting Him with a flaw. And one definition is a mark while rendering His service.


Affirmative..
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