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Old 09-30-2009, 11:30 PM   #21
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Yes, Maulana Muhammad Ilyas Ghuman who is a student of Hadhrat Ameen Safdar Okarvi and Imam e Ahle Sunnat Hadrat Maulana Sarfaz Khan R.A is a very goon munzair.
Also Maulana Abdullah Abid is very good.
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Old 10-01-2009, 12:15 AM   #22
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Asslamo Allaikum,

I went to school in Pakistan and all text books say "Hazrat Muhammad (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam)" while the Barelwees call Maulana Ala-Hazrat (meaning Super-Hazrat) , why is that?
Thats a good catch. I was fortunate enough Alhamdulillah to leave behind the barelwi beliefs. I'm sick of these beliefs, it is hindu beliefs in a muslim. I don't know how many scholars of these group have a check on the practices followed by uneducated muslim. The beliefs range from bidah to shirk. Thanks to my little madrasa knowledge not to involve in shirk. And yet we indulge. I believe i could convey this message to all barelwi brothers.
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Old 10-02-2009, 04:48 AM   #23
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Asslamo Allaikum,

I went to school in Pakistan and all text books say "Hazrat Muhammad (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam)" while the Barelwees call Maulana Ala-Hazrat (meaning Super-Hazrat) , why is that?
I thought Ala meant most high?
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Old 10-02-2009, 05:35 AM   #24
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Assalaam'aaleykum!

Ha haa haaa! You said it all, Bro!
AA.

Ha ha, love to see Deobandi's cry like girls.

Go get Hanif Quraishi with your British backed ulema.

WS
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Old 10-02-2009, 05:53 AM   #25
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I don't think I can upload the videos - it comprises of 10 discs of at least an hour each.


where do u stay and how much memory does it have
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Old 10-02-2009, 06:26 AM   #26
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AA.

Ha ha, love to see Deobandi's cry like girls.

Go get Hanif Quraishi with your British backed ulema.

WS
I think you have them mistaken with Ahmed Raza Khan Saaaab.
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Old 10-02-2009, 06:39 AM   #27
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salam the fact of the matter is hanif Qureshi is hot air just talk no action Qari chan Muhammad had him cornered on the issue of Barelwi references he changed the subject.

However i t think the best debator in my opinion for all these Barelwis is the student of Maulana Abdul Sattar Tonwi hafiduallah and Maulana Dhost Muhammad Qureshi r.a. and Maulana Yusuf Rahmani r.a. non other then Maulana Ramzan Nomani just mention his name to the Barelwis. Saeed Asad hasnt still responded to his Challenge. Maulana Ramzan Nomani says he will debate on the kufr of ahmad raza khan Barelwi and also when it comes to the references of the scholars of deoband he will use Hussamul Haramain as the benchmark for discussion exposing the lies of Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi.

The Barelwis have gone into cardiac arrest on their yanabi site but why dont the Barelwis ever want to debate on the Kufr of their elders.

maulana Ramzan Nomani challenges Saeed Asad


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4VRh...om=PL&index=16



O Barelwis bring any Barelwi Maulana Ramzan Nomani is waiting for your so called debators
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Old 10-02-2009, 06:47 AM   #28
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salam the fact of the matter is hanif Qureshi is hot air just talk no action Qari chan Muhammad had him cornered on the issue of Barelwi references he changed the subject.

However i t think the best debator in my opinion for all these Barelwis is the student of Maulana Abdul Sattar Tonwi hafiduallah and Maulana Dhost Muhammad Qureshi r.a. and Maulana Yusuf Rahmani r.a. non other then Maulana Ramzan Nomani just mention his name to the Barelwis. Saeed Asad hasnt still responded to his Challenge. Maulana Ramzan Nomani says he will debate on the kufr of ahmad raza khan Barelwi and also when it comes to the references of the scholars of deoband he will use Hussamul Haramain as the benchmark for discussion exposing the lies of Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi.

The Barelwis have gone into cardiac arrest on their yanabi site but why dont the Barelwis ever want to debate on the Kufr of their elders.

maulana Ramzan Nomani challenges Saeed Asad


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4VRh...om=PL&index=16



O Barelwis bring any Barelwi Maulana Ramzan Nomani is waiting for your so called debators
Just wait for the name calling and abusive language by the well mannered Barelwis!

If any person follows a "Mufti" who uses abusive language like Kaminey (astagfirullah) in his stand up routine ( I call it that because it certainly isn't an islamic talk by any stretch of the imagination with language like that), needs some serious help from a qualified psychiatrist.

Then again Ahmed Reza Khan Saaaab had such tendencies so that doesn't surprise me. This charming individual is just trying to emulate his hero. Ironic that the character of Muhammad SAW isn't the one they try to emulate especially since they are "Ashikaaay Rasool"!

This world truly is upside down.

May Allah SWT guide these sorry souls.
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Old 10-02-2009, 07:28 AM   #29
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Just wait for the name calling and abusive language by the well mannered Barelwis!

If any person follows a "Mufti" who uses abusive language like Kaminey (astagfirullah) in his stand up routine ( I call it that because it certainly isn't an islamic talk by any stretch of the imagination with language like that), needs some serious help from a qualified psychiatrist.

Then again Ahmed Reza Khan Saaaab had such tendencies so that doesn't surprise me. This charming individual is just trying to emulate his hero. Ironic that the character of Muhammad SAW isn't the one they try to emulate especially since they are "Ashikaaay Rasool"!

This world truly is upside down.

May Allah SWT guide these sorry souls.
AA.

Where is your proof that Hazrat Ahmed Raza ra. spoke with crude words. Don't speak about people who are not alive in this way, to accuse them of things without bringing proof that they used course and foul language.

You are calling people of Tassawwuff ill mannered, while disparaging someone of the grave.

Need I say any more.

WS.
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Old 10-02-2009, 07:41 AM   #30
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I don't think I can upload the videos - it comprises of 10 discs of at least an hour each.
if you can upload these debates... it will be really beneficial inshallah.
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Old 10-02-2009, 07:53 AM   #31
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i think you are not aware never mind saying things about the scholars of the Ahle sunnah the scholars of deoband he attacked allah in such a manner that one cannot imagine such was this so called reviver of islam Ahmad raza khan and the proof is where click the link below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mD27...e=channel_page


until now no Barelwi mulla has been able to refute this reference
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Old 10-02-2009, 08:10 AM   #32
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AA.

Where is your proof that Hazrat Ahmed Raza ra. spoke with crude words.

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Ahmad Rada Khan Sahib writes,

"A woman is capable of committing fornication. Then according to the opinion of your leader and teacher, it is necessary that your God too should be capable of committing fornication - otherwise the prostitutes of the brothers of the Deobandi's would laugh at Him and say: 'How do you claim for Godhead? You are not capable of doing which even we can do?' This naturally implies that your God must possess a female sexual organ - otherwise where will be the sexual intercourse?"
(Ahmad Raza Khan in his Subhan al-Subbuh. P. 142)

"The works of the Deobandi's are more unclean than the various works of the Hindu's. The doubt about the heresy of Ashraf Ali Deobandi and suspicion about his punishment is also unbelief. To cleanse the impurity with the papers of the works produced by the Deobandi's is not lawful, not because of the respect for their books, but because of the reverence of the letters with which they have been written."
(Ahmad Raza Khan in his Fatawa Ridwiyya, 2/136)
This is the filthy language of so called mujaddid of Islam!
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Old 10-02-2009, 08:22 AM   #33
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Ahmad Rada Khan Sahib writes,



This is the filthy language of so called mujaddid of Islam!
I think Ahmad Raza Khan tries to make clear why it's not logical to say that because humans are capable of lying so should hypothetical Allah Most High be able to lie by giving an example of above.
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Old 10-02-2009, 08:38 AM   #34
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I think Ahmad Raza Khan tries to make clear why it's not logical to say that because humans are capable of lying so should hypothetical Allah Most High be able to lie by giving an example of above.
who wud use sucha a language about God? this is clearly insult of God.

beside ahmad raza lied when he said Deobandis blv Allah can tell a lie.
he lied more dan ghulam ahmad qadyani.

ppl go to makkah and madina to repent but ahmad raza went to haramain to lie.
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Old 10-02-2009, 10:24 AM   #35
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where do u stay and how much memory does it have
I live in Saudi Arabia and the total memory would be around 7gb.
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Old 10-02-2009, 10:25 AM   #36
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I live in Saudi Arabia and the total memory would be around 7gb.
u can upload it in parts
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Old 10-02-2009, 10:30 AM   #37
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u can upload it in parts
Thanks to encouragement from you brothers, :insha: I will try to upload it. It will take me a few days but I will try my best. I will look into some compression software to decrease the file size and see if I can split it into enough parts for Youtube or a file sharing website.
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Old 10-02-2009, 10:31 AM   #38
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Thanks to encouragement from you brothers, :insha: I will try to upload it. It will take me a few days but I will try my best. I will look into some compression software to decrease the file size and see if I can split it into enough parts for Youtube or a file sharing website.
jazakALLAH khair we are waiting
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Old 10-03-2009, 12:35 AM   #39
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Thanks to encouragement from you brothers, :insha: I will try to upload it. It will take me a few days but I will try my best. I will look into some compression software to decrease the file size and see if I can split it into enough parts for Youtube or a file sharing website.
MashaAllah.
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Old 10-03-2009, 01:14 AM   #40
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This is Ahmad Raza Khan Saaaaab's grandson explaining Bidah.

I won't say much more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KctJyAABUk
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