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Old 11-08-2011, 12:02 AM   #1
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What are the way's to judge a ahadith weather is is true or false, there are lot of Islamic scholars who are misguiding Muslim's by giving multiple opinions to a single ahadith. so i want to know the way to judge the ahadith by myself..

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Old 11-08-2011, 12:21 AM   #2
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You just have to spend your whole life and efforts to reach a stage you would be followers of the early scholars of hadith.

The only solution is to stay in touch with scholars of the ahlus sunnah & jama'ah.
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Old 11-08-2011, 12:48 AM   #3
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The only solution is to stay in touch with scholars of the ahlus sunnah & jama'ah.
This same sentence replaced with ahle ahadith.. i have heard it lot of times.. now what i should do..
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Old 11-08-2011, 01:10 AM   #4
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There's not really 'a way', basically you're like asking how to do a heart surgery because you don't trust the doctor.
And the appropriate answer is; learn from a doctor you trust but it will take years and a lot of devotion.
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Old 11-08-2011, 04:18 AM   #5
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al-Salamu 'Aleykum,

Tell us which Ahadith and maybe we can help you, since there are scholars on this forum.
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Old 11-08-2011, 04:36 AM   #6
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What are the way's to judge a ahadith weather is is true or false, there are lot of Islamic scholars who are misguiding Muslim's by giving multiple opinions to a single ahadith. so i want to know the way to judge the ahadith by myself..

no other way except to seek knowledge my brother. The more knowledge you seek, the less you will be reliant on others. Study under a range of scholars inshAllah and make sure you cover classical books of hadeeth written by agreed upon ulema. Some good online courses to get you started inshAllah (dont limit yourself to this organisation only though as you should try to study from a range of different places inshAllah):

http://cordobaacademy.com/al-bayquniyyah.html

(a small poem used to acqaint you with the sciences of hadeeth)



http://cordobaacademy.com/nukhbat-al-fikar.html

(A great text from ibn hajar, a classical ulema agreed upon by all of the various "segments" of ahlas sunnah wal jama'ah, including the deobandis and salafis/ahle hadeeth (the two forerunners in being closest to the haqh in my oppinion, and allah knows best)
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:15 AM   #7
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What are the way's to judge a ahadith weather is is true or false, there are lot of Islamic scholars who are misguiding Muslim's by giving multiple opinions to a single ahadith. so i want to know the way to judge the ahadith by myself..

Brother its very easy, Just go to a Islamic Madrassah/Dar ul uloom/University, Study for 10 years. Learn Good classical arabic in 2-3 years, then study your fiqh first and then delve into the Hadeeth . By the end of 10 years, you will have all the tools, now finally set the first step on your quest to look at the hadeeth on your own, and then get to the bottom of it.

If not all this then , all it will come down to would be picking up some translations of Hadeeth Books, and then reading them, and then interpreting their translations according to your own mind's understanding and intellectual capability, and then if youre arrogant then you will start passing out fatwas and then community breakup will further happen.

But you seem to be nuthing like what i wrote in the upper paragraph, i think you are a sincere brother, and if you dont have time like the 10 years then you will humble yourself down and take some courses under ulemas guidance and learn from them and keep learning from them whatever you can.

InshAllah keep making dwa to Allah that you dont get misguided by any phony claimant of knowledge and that Allah makes it easy for you to understand the Hadeeths of Rasool Allah S.W.
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:52 PM   #8
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You should have said it like this 'the more you study, more you realised how little one knows and as such becomes a seeker of knowledge untill he reaches the grave'. It is not surprising why Sahaba (RAD) used to direct querries to one another instead of answering it by themselves. In their character lies a true humble servent and a truee sincere seeker. Unlike people of today who rush to answer and claim to know all after mere glimps of the text.
While I agree that knowledge should humble a person and definitely the more you know the more you realise you dont know, but those points would have been irrelavant to this thread so thats why I didnt say it.

What is relevant, is that many people claim to be upon the haqh, and all groups have ulema, so a confused person will not know whether to learn from deobandis or salafis or sufis or shia etc. So saying that he must blindly follow a scholar is not much of a solution. If you look at his post, he is confused and sincere in searching for teh haqh. The salaf would advise that in fitnah, knwoledge will make things become clear, and so I advised him that when he seeks knowledge, the issues will become clearer to him. The more he knows about teh science of hadeeth, inshallah the clearer it will be who is correct and who is not and then he can decide which ulema to follow. For example, I myself know very little about deobandi use of weak hadeeth and why they insist on acting upon them while rejecting saheeh hadeeth in aqeedah. The only way for me to find out is to first learn the universal basics of hadeeth science and then look at the salafi position and deo position and see which one makes more sense
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Old 11-08-2011, 11:30 PM   #9
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Bismillah
I know very little about aqidah as I consider the persuit of knoweldge of aqaid has little benefit spiritually and nowhere it is mentioned that to learn ins and out out aqaid ut tahawiya is a wajib. Anyway in general I find the salafist are the most dissinjenious bunch when talking of aqaid. Their scholar do not teach everything to the student. An example of this is Shaikh Yassir Qadhi who admitted he wasn't informed about particular narration and as such his view on tawwasul is the one of Imam Ibn Taimiyah's extreme minority view. When he was asked about about the hadith of the blind man, he responded in negative. He said he was never told about it untill he was made aware of the existance.
By the way the issue of tawwasul is not aqaidah matter but is available hamblay fiqh book. I know this becasue Shaikh Yassir Qadhi when questioned about this by the Hamably scholar told him to look into it. The Madina Darul ulm is the worst one and Ummul Qurra in comparison fares better. Inshallah things will get better now the extremist salafist has been removed from the position in madina darul ulm. There were many such cases!! As much as I find the deo somewhat stagnent dealing with present day, I find the berlewis and salafist adopting similar attitude in their disshonesty.

I was also surprised you are reading hadith under the salafist. It would be interesting how the teacher fares in comparison most of the deo and Nadwi scholars. I found your comment about soley reling on deo source is not correct either. There are numerious reputable scholars in Syrian & Ezypt. Perhaps we dont hear much of them for very many practical reasons.
As for guidance is from Allah alone and when in doubt the key point is to turn to Allah sincerely make an effort and the dua of a seeker never goes unanswered. One have to seek assistance from local qualified scholar of Sunni orthodoxy no matter which darul ulm they are affiliated with. People can't guide and It is Allah alone guides the sincere. To say otherwise is like maqkluk being given the same station of provider hidiya.
Allahualam









While I agree that knowledge should humble a person and definitely the more you know the more you realise you dont know, but those points would have been irrelavant to this thread so thats why I didnt say it.

What is relevant, is that many people claim to be upon the haqh, and all groups have ulema, so a confused person will not know whether to learn from deobandis or salafis or sufis or shia etc. So saying that he must blindly follow a scholar is not much of a solution. If you look at his post, he is confused and sincere in searching for teh haqh. The salaf would advise that in fitnah, knwoledge will make things become clear, and so I advised him that when he seeks knowledge, the issues will become clearer to him. The more he knows about teh science of hadeeth, inshallah the clearer it will be who is correct and who is not and then he can decide which ulema to follow. For example, I myself know very little about deobandi use of weak hadeeth and why they insist on acting upon them while rejecting saheeh hadeeth in aqeedah. The only way for me to find out is to first learn the universal basics of hadeeth science and then look at the salafi position and deo position and see which one makes more sense
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