[Reftsheette]

Brothers

I am a student in China, and every year there is huge confusion with regard to Eid.
This year is no different. Today we observed the fast of Arafah, some places in China are celebrating Eid tomorrow and other places are celebrating on Monday (7th), the imaam of the masjid in our locality said Eid salaah will be on monday, but a city an hour from here will be celebrating tomorrow. We are really confused, there are around 80 -100 muslim students here and some guys are considering praying Eid Salaah by themselves tomorrow here at campus, will that be permissible.

Please advise.

Jazakallah

[asharbiq]

follow your local mosque. That's what we've always been told.

Brothers

I am a student in China, and every year there is huge confusion with regard to Eid.
This year is no different. Today we observed the fast of Arafah, some places in China are celebrating Eid tomorrow and other places are celebrating on Monday (7th), the imaam of the masjid in our locality said Eid salaah will be on monday, but a city an hour from here will be celebrating tomorrow. We are really confused, there are around 80 -100 muslim students here and some guys are considering praying Eid Salaah by themselves tomorrow here at campus, will that be permissible.

Please advise.

Jazakallah

[Reftsheette]

i understand that, but then do we fast tomorrow ?

[YabbaIn]

i understand that, but then do we fast tomorrow ?

Fasting on dhul Hajj 9th and Eid on Dhul Hajj 10th. ie Fast the day before Eid, according to your local mosque.
Do not fast on EID.

[zlZ95pjt]

Fasting on dhul Hajj 9th and Eid on Dhul Hajj 10th. ie Fast the day before Eid, according to your local mosque.
Do not fast on EID.

and do not fast on the three days after Eid

[ppfpooghn]

Assalamu alaykum Pakman39,

This has always puzzled me. I understand the problem with Ramadan and the moon sighting, and the matter is clear. But Eid al-Adha is to celebrate the end of Hajj, and the Hajj is at Makkah, so how could the day of Eid be on any day other than the day it is celebrated at Makkah?

Eid will be celebrated at Makkah tomorrow, Sunday, November 6. If your community is observing Eid on Monday, for whatever reason, then it would be best to celebrate with them and not divide the community over it. Salaat al-Eid is naafilah in any event, and may Allah reward you for it whenever you observe it.

Wa Allah a3lam.

السلام عليكم

Abu Marwan

[EmpaccalGah]

Same old confusion year on year

Please people take some time and read the following articles to clear your misunderstandings

http://www.wifaqululama.co.uk/articl...d-ul-hajj.html

Eid ul Adha is on the 10th of Zil Hijjah (only on local date) - Eid ul Adha is not an Eid ul Hajj!!


Unfortunately, there is a common misunderstanding amongst the people that when it is Yowm ul Arafah in Saudi Arabia, the whole world has to celebrate Eid ul Adha on the next day. No evidence for this can be found in our Holy Shariah.


The principle prescribed by our Holy Shariah for determining Eid ul Adha is the same as that for determining any other month: one should attempt to sight the moon at the beginning of the month. If the moon is sighted locally or reliable news of sighting is received from outside, then the new month will commence, otherwise thirty days will be declared for the month. In the case of Eid ul Adha, once reliable news has been received for the month of Zil Hijjah in the locality one resides in, then the tenth day of the month will be declared as Eid Ul Adha.


The calendar of Saudi Arabia will have no effect whatsoever in determining Eid Ul Adha in countries outside Saudi Arabia. Those who are living outside Saudi Arabia such as ourselves, should be following a lunar calendar of our own country.


“All the scholars are unanimous that Eid Ul Adha is on the 10th of Zil Hijjah which is determined by the sighting in each locality, and not on the 10th of Zil Hijjah in Makkah”


This is a fact which has been emphasised by Fataawaa from leading Ulama like Sheikh Saleh Ibn AlUthaimeen RH, and Mufti Muhammad Taqi Uthmaani Saheb (Deputy chairman Islamic Fiqh Academy, OIC, Jeddah), and others. They do not think that it is necessary to observe Eid ul Adha worldwide after the day of Arafah in Saudi Arabia. (See the Fataawaa at: www.jas.org.jo/hilaal)


It is a historical fact that the calendars of Makkah and Madinah were not the same even in the era of our beloved Nabi SAW. Discussing the date of Nabi Sallal lahu alaihi Wasallam’s departure from this world, Imam Maazaree R.A. and Hafiz Ibn Katheer R.A. have written, “There is the possibility that the people of Makkah saw the Hilal of Zil Hijjah on a Thursday whilst the people of Madinah saw it on the Friday...” (Fiqhi Jawahir Vol 1 pg 35, Sheikh Ul Hadith Mufti Umar Farooq Saheb DB) This would mean that the month of Zil Hijjah commenced on separate dates in both Holy Cities. Therefore, Eid Ul Adha would have been celebrated on different days in both Holy Cities, reiterating the point that you must follow the calendar of the place where you are residing, and also that, it is NOT necessary that after Yowm ul Arafah in Saudi Arabia, it has to be Eid ul Adha every where in the world.


On this issue one may also ponder over the following points:


· Neither our Nabi Sallal lahu alaihi Wasallam nor the Khulafa e Rashideen EVER attempted to synchronise the Eid Ul Adha date in Madinah with the Hajj date in Makkah. Ten nights and nine days were enough to send a messenger from Makkah to Madinah with the news, but there is no evidence of any such effort


· Eid Ul Adha was instituted in the year 2 AH whilst Hajj became obligatory in the year 9 AH. This clearly indicates that there is no real connection between Hajj and Eid Ul Adha.


· Nabi Sallal lahu alaihi Wasallam stayed in Madinah for Ten years offering his sacrifice. (Tirmidhi). Nabi Sallal lahu alaihi Wasallam sacrificed on the tenth day in Madinah.(Baihiqi). (The Sacrifice was not done according to the Makkah date).


· For over 1200 years of Islamic history it was impossible for Muslims in far away countries like Indonesia to find the Hajj date in time for Eid Ul Adha. Allah SWT would never burden the Human Being with a responsibility which was impossible to fulfil. The Holy Qur’aan states “Allah burdens not a person beyond his scope” Al Baqarah verse 286.


'Wallahu A'alam'

also: Determination of Eid al-Adha by Justice Maulana Mufti M. Taqi Usmani http://www.albalagh.net/qa/moon_qa.shtml

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...on-local-date).

[ppfpooghn]

Assalamu alaykum Fake Shaykh,

Yes. It is the same old confusion year after year. One of the problems is that people attempt to give definitive answers to questions that have no definitive answer. This causes more confusion since it encourages people to believe that there is an answer, when there really is none.

And there is usually no shortage of people claiming to have THE ANSWER. They may do this out of self-aggrandizement or fanatical devotion to someone or some group of people, or simply from personal conviction that they have discovered what has eluded everyone before them.

But there are often two opinions that are of equal validity. Both can be defended so we should not deprecate those who say this or that, simply because they disagree with us.

I actually agree with your arguments and thank you for posting this information.

Still, we ought not to be impatient with people who ask questions, and we ought not to deny others the right to disagree with us. We can cite scholars, and they can cite scholars, and in the end everyone needs to make a decision based on their own understanding of what is best in whichever situation they may find themselves.

I would not like to be responsible for compelling a group of people in China to travel 100 miles to pray Eid in some other town because their local congregation is praying on the 'wrong day,' nor for causing dissension within their community. I can have no knowledge of what goes on in China, in any event.

And would I travel?

No. I would not. I'd pray with my community, even if they prayed on the "wrong" day.

Salaam,


Abu Marwan

[Edifsdubs]

wa rahmatullah,
For over 1200 years of Islamic history it was impossible for Muslims in far away countries like Indonesia to find the Hajj date in time for Eid Ul Adha. Allah SWT would never burden the Human Being with a responsibility which was impossible to fulfil. The Holy Qur’aan states “Allah burdens not a person beyond his scope” Al Baqarah verse 286. That's the part people forget, but I reckon with all this technology laymen cannot conceive "neglecting" the Makkan sighting / pilgrimage.

May Allah guide us all.