[Kolovorotkes]

Reference for the above please.

I am sorry I do not know. I will try to find out. However I have heard it more than once.

If you do know whether it is correct of false, please do mention.

[RonPeeredob]

Assalamu alaykum,

jazakum Allah khayrain for all your replies. Indeed, if this story is true (we have yet to find the hadith), it is a powerful reminder of the extent to which Islam can transform the believer, even if he committed the most abhorrent sins. It should remind us all of Allah's mercy and it is pure ignorance that it should be used to defame or slander Sayyidna Umar (radi Allahu anhu).

wa salam

[Rjvpicux]

Assalamu alaykum,

jazakum Allah khayrain for all your replies. Indeed, if this story is true (we have yet to find the hadith), it is a powerful reminder of the extent to which Islam can transform the believer, even if he committed the most abhorrent sins. It should remind us all of Allah's mercy and it is pure ignorance that it should be used to defame or slander Sayyidna Umar (radi Allahu anhu).

wa salam

bro.

True indeed.

Umar himself told the story about the biggest mistake he did before becoming a Muslim. He actually went to attack our Beloved Rasoolullah . But when he entered, Rasoolullah grabbed his collar and said 'O son of Khattaab! Accept Islaam.' And Hazrat Umar accepted Islam. . http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post613353

Many Sahabah did mistakes in their Jahaliyya before becoming Muslim. If Allah the Almighty has forgiven the past sins of every person who becomes a Muslim. Then who are we to hold their action against them. Biggest sin one can commit is Shirk and Allah forgives it with the Shahadah. So someone concentrating on the acts of a Muslim before Imaan is ignorant.

Khalid bin Waleed (ra) was the brain behind the temporary setback faced by the Muslims in the battle of Uhud. Rasoolullah called him 'Sayfullah' ie Sword of Allah after he became Muslim.

Ikramah bin Abu Jahl(ra) fought fiercely against Rasoolullah for almost 2 decades. After he embraced Islam he died as a Shaheed.

There are numerous example of Sahabah who were the worst in Jahaliyya and became the best after accepting Islam. This is what Islam does to us.

[flienianO]

Yea I noticed Shia talk about it on their forums...but they don't Quote it! Where the heck did they get it from? we need the sources before the Sanad.

i dont know they eather have week or no proof mostly made up

[shodulsilfeli]

Yea I noticed Shia talk about it on their forums...but they don't Quote it! Where the heck did they get it from? we need the sources before the Sanad.

Where do you think they got it from?? As usual, the same place...