[brorialsibers]

Gabriel,

How come your Madhab says ''none'' then ?

[DINAKuncher]

Gabriel,

How come your Madhab says ''none'' then ?

It is making a statement.

I am affiliated with scholars from the Hanafi School of Thought, but since I am a lay person I do not have a Madhab per se since I lack the capability to analytically deduce the knowledge that is presented to me and my reasoning can only extend to 'trust' in the knowledge that is provide by the rightly guided scholar[s] and believe that he/she is presenting the knowledge accurately. As far as the scholar[s] is concerned they derive their rulings from the hanafi principals but that actually has no basis for me since I am a lay person.

[Maryjasmine]

Sarah is pretty young sister (less than 15 yo if I'm not mistaken) so if any older sisters can help her as well that would be great.

sis sarah why don't you join the sisters section on the forum? there are many older and very helpful sisters there, who don't like posting too much on the main forums. i'm sure they will be glad to help anytime... and the only thing you need to join is 75 posts to your name!

[Colorostikse]

It says on the settings that you need at least 200 posts to join the gender specific forums... which is a bit lame if you ask me, I don't have time to write so many posts but have lots of issues I would like to ask about with sisters only...

[Maryjasmine]

It says on the settings that you need at least 200 posts to join the gender specific forums... which is a bit lame if you ask me, I don't have time to write so many posts but have lots of issues I would like to ask about with sisters only...

nope. it was originally but now its gone down to 75 posts.

[cholleyhomeob]

http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/ahm/newmadhh.htm

[megasprut]

Actutally sister all muslims follow a madhhab, be it a well-known one or following their own shaykh.

aoa,

bingo. there arent any ghair muqallids then. coz even the salafis and ahl e hadith follow a scholar. taqleed isnt just of the four madhhabs. it can also be of a scholar. like salafis highly regard the opinion of hadrat ibn taymiyyah (ra). thats not being ghar muqallid. no matter what they say.
ive bin thinking about this. and i believe if many people relax their definitions of muqallid and ghair muqallid a bit to incorporate 'what really happens' then there will be a lot less fighting and much more advancement in islam in sha Allah.

[Coededgeme]

This is what Dr. Main Khalid Al-Qudah says about it:

Alhamdu Lillah

Layperson should not worry about the different Mathahib at all. Whenever you get involved in seeking Islamic knowledge, it is recommended to follow any of the four famous Mathahib, while studying the differences between these Mathahib, and tying your best following the most authentic opinion or Math-hab.
But if you are working hard and designating enough time to pursue knowledge, then ask people of knowledge whom you trust. In this case, your Math-hab in a particular issue is the Math-hab of the Shaikh you asked. http://www.amjaonline.com/en_f_details.php?fid=85599

[smifatv]

The 4 madhabs are different but all true, just as General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics are both different but also true.

[Squeernemergo]

aoa,

bingo. there arent any ghair muqallids then. coz even the salafis and ahl e hadith follow a scholar. taqleed isnt just of the four madhhabs. it can also be of a scholar. like salafis highly regard the opinion of hadrat ibn taymiyyah (ra). thats not being ghar muqallid. no matter what they say.
ive bin thinking about this. and i believe if many people relax their definitions of muqallid and ghair muqallid a bit to incorporate 'what really happens' then there will be a lot less fighting and much more advancement in islam in sha Allah.

Akhi, You have been missing for quite sometime. Hope you are doing fine.

As for the issue at hand, Bro there needs to be an isnad for everything, One cannot make a new Madhab out of thin air. One cannot follow a madhab other than the 4.




Sid Abdullah was one of the greatest Islamic scholars from Africa in the nineteenth century


In Maraqi as-Sa’ud, Sidi Abdullah Ould Hajj Ibrahim says,

“The consensus today is on the four, and all have prohibited following [any] others.”

He says in Nashru al-bunud,

“This means that the consensus of the scholars today is on the four schools of thought, and I mean by the schools of Malik, Abu Hanifa, Shafi’i and Ahmad. Indeed, all of the scholars have prohibited following any other school of an independent and absolute mujtahid since the eighth century when the school of Dawud adh-Dhahiri died out and until the 12th Century and all subsequent ones.”

Bro, take a look at this fatwa by shayk Murabit Al-Hajj: http://www.sunnipath.com/library/Art...R00000165.aspx
Murabit Al-Hajj is a famous scholar from Mauritana.

[dolaBeetCeage]

aoa,

bingo. there arent any ghair muqallids then. coz even the salafis and ahl e hadith follow a scholar. taqleed isnt just of the four madhhabs. it can also be of a scholar. like salafis highly regard the opinion of hadrat ibn taymiyyah (ra). thats not being ghar muqallid. no matter what they say.
ive bin thinking about this. and i believe if many people relax their definitions of muqallid and ghair muqallid a bit to incorporate 'what really happens' then there will be a lot less fighting and much more advancement in islam in sha Allah.

Nice writing.

[ChyFDjfed]

Completely 'ditching a madhab' would not be wise. No one recommends interpreting the Quran and hadith on your own without the help scholars. Therefore you would still have to find a group of scholars who 'follow Quran and sunnah' and follow them. There are many different scholars and groups who say they 'follow quran and sunnah' but they still have different opinions among themselves, and in the some cases it gets pretty ugly. Sometimes they refute and fight among each other as well. Stick with the madhabs, and keep seeking knowledge insha Allah.

[Cuccuccaltefe]

its very hard to know who even truely follows a madhab this day and age. To many people, madhab is a label that you must adopt. Such as hanafis who claim there is bid'ah hasanah and then quote shaafi scholars as evidence. Umm, what happened to "we have to follow one madhab"? Seems like we only have to follow a madhab when it suits people.

Was imam abu hanifahs usool that there is bid'ah hasanah?

I think people are only concerned with the label Hanafi and not with the actual usool of imam abu hanifa

[rouletteroulette]

Salams,

I'd say if you want to abandon the madhabi system, then become a mujtahid...it'll take years upon years of study, but if that's what ya want, then you have to be at that level of learning in order to practice ijtihad...

Wa Salam,

Tempest Desh

[RlUbQU3R]

its very hard to know who even truely follows a madhab this day and age. To many people, madhab is a label that you must adopt. Such as hanafis who claim there is bid'ah hasanah and then quote shaafi scholars as evidence. Umm, what happened to "we have to follow one madhab"? Seems like we only have to follow a madhab when it suits people.

Was imam abu hanifahs usool that there is bid'ah hasanah?

I think people are only concerned with the label Hanafi and not with the actual usool of imam abu hanifa

Out of interest, what were Imam Abu Hanifah's usul with regards to bid'ah? Any statement from him? shukran

[Rugda]

definitely not mawlid sulemain

[Cuccuccaltefe]

for example, here is a sunniforum thread discussing imam abu hanifa's oppinion that loud dhickr was an innovation:

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-Hanafi-school

Imaam Abu Hanifah said, "Stick to the narrations and the way of the Salaf, and beware of newly-invented matters for all of it is innovation." [Sawnul Mantaq of as-Suyuti p32]

There are quite a few statements, I even heard he said that uttering intention was bid'ah although I couildnt find teh reference for it.

Can anyone provide any evidence of imam abu hanifa rahimahullah ever doing an act that doesnt have a direct link to the actions of rasuulullah SAW? I never saw any ruling that he gave that wasnt because he believed this was the practice of
the prophet muhammad salallahu alayhi wassalam




and here is a barelwi website which reasons that because practical improvements like books, schools and tashkeel were introduced, that somehow this justifies making up new acts of worship that was unknown to the salaf:

http://www.*****************/Documen...ingOfBidah.asp

(sorry had to throw that in there)

Bid'ah means to create a new act of worship that wasnt from the practice of the salaf. LIke spinning around on the spot and believing this will earn you the reward of Allah

[RlUbQU3R]

definitely not mawlid sulemain

I was talking about usul, not furu'.

As for spinning around on a spot, if one were to believe this was worthy of reward in itself, yes, this would be bid'ah as one is changing an 'aadah into an 'ibadah. I don't think anyone disagrees.

[Cuccuccaltefe]

I was talking about usul, not furu'.

As for spinning around on a spot, if one were to believe this was worthy of reward in itself, yes, this would be bid'ah as one is changing an 'aadah into an 'ibadah. I don't think anyone disagrees.

the whirling dirwishes dont agree

[ftqwhbvxlcfop]

Br. Dawud,
Is shariah law valid for someone who is in a state of insanity. As far as I know when someone is not right in state of mind, they don't know what shariah law is. So please don't compare whirling dirwish (sane) with those who are in a temporary state of insanity.
There are narration of Ibn Masud of doing loud dhkr and also state of dhikr can't be limited to just one form because there is a narration which states to do adkhar in sitting, standing postion. This includes dua and others. Again this is matter of furu issue. By the way was Khidr (AS) was wrong for violating the laws of shariah according to you.
There is clear distinct group of scholars 1. Alims of shariah 2. Shaikhs of Tassawuf 3. Scholars of shariah who after finishing their studies goes to shaikhs of tassawuf.
So which one are you reffering to. For laymen, they have to refer to the first one but connect themselves to shaikh of tassawuf (versed in Shariah aswell) . The reason I am saying this is because please be mindful of what you say lest in ignorance we say things.

I think the book by Mufti Taqi Uthmani 'legal status of madhab' describes all this issue for laymen.
The idea that just because one does not adhere to every single minor rule of a particular school of thought is somehow makes the issue confusing is a bit dissinjenious and is expacted from a la madhabi. There has always been in the same schools differing opinion and is based on context and ijtihad of the scholar. The la madhabi are in realty are bunch of theif that they don't admit their weakness but do taqlid of some sort of past scholar and tries to project their tendency on others.
A bangali likes eating fish. It does not make one less bangali just because he also eats meat. Someone adhereing to Shafi school opting to dispose his zakah using currency does not make adherence of the shafi school a hanafi. Someone using Imam Matrudis view in his aqaid attending majlis of a Scholar of Ashari school does not make them Ashari.
We are not madhabist but adherent to a school of thought.

Allahualam