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Old 10-20-2011, 10:37 AM   #1
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Default Ghazwat ul Hind and Pakistan!


عن أبي هريرة قال وعدنا رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم غزوة الهند فإن أدركتها أنفق فيها نفسي ومالي فإن أقتل كنت من أفضل الشهداء وإن أرجع فأنا أبو هريرة المحرر


Hazrat Abu Huraira says "Rasool Allah promised us Ghazwat ul Hind, so If find it, I will spend my life and wealth in it, if i get killed I will be from the best of Shaheeds, and If I return safely I will be "Freed Abu Huraira" (from hell)"

Just like the people who go to lengths to prove that Khurasaan also includes Pakistan, I was wondering does Hind include Pakistan?

Would this war be against Pakistan also?

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Old 10-20-2011, 11:22 AM   #2
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Walikum Asalam Brother,


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Old 10-20-2011, 11:48 AM   #3
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It must be strange living under one of the Prophet's (saw) predictions.

And of course the Turks love to mention that their army was the "best army" that Rasulullah (saw) predicted to capture Constantinople.

Rasulullah (saw) never mentioned my countrymen in SE Asia, as far as I know, whether regarding past, present or future.
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Old 10-20-2011, 12:02 PM   #4
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عن أبي هريرة قال وعدنا رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم غزوة الهند فإن أدركتها أنفق فيها نفسي ومالي فإن أقتل كنت من أفضل الشهداء وإن أرجع فأنا أبو هريرة المحرر


Hazrat Abu Huraira says "Rasool Allah promised us Ghazwat ul Hind, so If find it, I will spend my life and wealth in it, if i get killed I will be from the best of Shaheeds, and If I return safely I will be "Freed Abu Huraira" (from hell)"

Just like the people who go to lengths to prove that Khurasaan also includes Pakistan, I was wondering does Hind include Pakistan?

Would this war be against Pakistan also?

Yes, Hind includes India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal
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Old 10-20-2011, 12:09 PM   #5
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The Pro-Pakistanis use this hadith to say that Pakistani Army will be the army fighting hind. I don't believe it. Because the situation won't change in one day. You can see what the pakistani army had been doing since 10 years!
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Old 10-20-2011, 12:13 PM   #6
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It must be strange living under one of the Prophet's (saw) predictions.

And of course the Turks love to mention that their army was the "best army" that Rasulullah (saw) predicted to capture Constantinople.

Rasulullah (saw) never mentioned my countrymen in SE Asia, as far as I know, whether regarding past, present or future.

When beloved Rasoolallah said that he is restless to meet his Ahabah then it means that all of us ajamis were naturally included in that.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:00 PM   #7
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Bro Maripat, I admit not hearing that hadith before... I tried to google the word Ahabah and it says it's hebrew... What is Ahabah?

Secondly, I thought Khurasan is a huge area north of Persia, as far west as Chechnya and as far east to Afghanistan, and as far north into Central Asia. The Black Flag Army could be from anywhere in that huge area.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:12 PM   #8
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Bro Maripat, I admit not hearing that hadith before... I tried to google the word Ahabah and it says it's hebrew... What is Ahabah?

Secondly, I thought Khurasan is a huge area north of Persia, as far west as Chechnya and as far east to Afghanistan, and as far north into Central Asia. The Black Flag Army could be from anywhere in that huge area.


Yes you are right about khurasaan but the Pro-Pakistan people use it to claim that Pakistan Army is the real true Mujahideen and anyone who stands up to implement khilafah in Pakistan is a Baghi.
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:50 PM   #9
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Bro Maripat, I admit not hearing that hadith before... I tried to google the word Ahabah and it says it's hebrew... What is Ahabah?

This is an ecstatic Hadith. I read it in one of the books by Hakim Akhtar Sahab(DB). If you read Urdu then I may try to search the narration in his books otherwise I'll request knowledgeable brothers to chip in. The story is as follows. Sahabah were sitting surrounding beloved Prophet . At a point he restlessly said that I am very eager to meet my Ahabah. When am I going to meet them? Sahabah asked Ya Rasoolallah are we not your Ahabah? He said no you are my Sahabah. You declared your faith in my Prophethood because you saw my character with your own eyes. My Ahabah are the people who'll come after you but they will believe me without having seen me.

Thus our beloved Prophet gave us his personal attention-by default it had to be in absentia.

And I stand corrected by the knowledgeable.

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Old 10-20-2011, 10:02 PM   #10
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The Taliban's second wave will engulf Hind and beyond

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Old 10-20-2011, 10:05 PM   #11
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Hind includes India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and more.

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Old 10-20-2011, 10:07 PM   #12
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(1) FIRST HADEES OF HAZRAT ABU HURAIRAH (R.A.)
The very first Hadees is related to Hazrat Abu Hurairah (R.A.). He says that my intimate friend Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) told me that:

“ In this Ummah, the troops would be headed towards Sindh & Hind”

Hazrat Abu Hurairah (R.A.) says that if I could find a chance to participate in any of such movement & (while participating in it) I be got martyred, then well & good; if came back as a survived warrior, then I would be a free Abu Hurairah, to whom Allah Almighty would have given freedom from the Hell.”

REFERENCE:-

With these words, only Imam bin Hambal (R) narrated this Hadees in ‘Masnad’.
And Ibn-e-Kaseer copied with his reference in ‘Al-Badaya Wa Nahaya’

Qazi Ahmad Shakir gave this Hadees the beautiful stability in the explanation & search of ‘Masnad Ahmad’.

Imam Nisai did narrate this Hadees in both his books: ‘As Sunan Al Mujtaba’ & ‘As Sunan Al Kubra’ with the following wordings, that Hazrat Abu Hurairah (R.A.) says, Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) did promise us of Ghazwa-e-Hind. If I got chance to participate in it, then I would spend all my energy & wealth in it. If I got slained, then I would be considered among the most great martyrs. And if came back, then would be a freed Abu-Hurairah.

Imam Behqi (R) has also copied the same wordings in ‘As Sunan Al Kubra’. In his another narration, there is one addition. With the reference of Ibn-e-Daood, Masdad told about Abu-Ishaq Fazari that he used to say: ‘I wish that I could participate in the Ghazwat of Marbad(some place in East towards India from Arab), instead of all those Ghazwaat which I did in city Rome’.

Imam Behqi (R) has talked about the same narration in ‘Dalail un Nubuwwah’. And with his reference, this narration has been copied by Imam Syuti (R) in ‘Al Khasaais Al Kubra’.

Furthermore, the following Hadees quoters have narrated the same Hadees with a few word difference.
Sheikh Ahmad Shakir (R) approved the very Hadees.
Ibn e Kaseer copied in ‘Al Badaya Wa Nahaya’ from the testimonial of Imam Ahmad.
Abu Naeem (R) narrated it in ‘Huliyaat ul Auliya’.
Imam Hakim (R) remained silent after narrating this Hadees in ‘Al Mustadrak Al Saheeheen’. While, Imam Zahbi (R) omitted it from his Mustadrak.
Saeed bin Mansoor narrated it in his book ‘As Sunan’.
Khateeb Baghdadi wrote in the history of Baghdad that ‘I would make myself restless in it’.
Naeem bin Hammad; the teacher of Imam Bukhari (R) wrote in ‘Al Fitan’.
Ibn e Abi Asim (R) did in his book ‘Al-Jihad’.
Ibn e Abi Hatim (R) narrated in his book ‘Al Laal’ that ‘if I would be murdered, then would be alive by getting food (as shaheed) & if returned, then would be freed’.
Imam Bukhari (R) did narrate in ‘Al Tareekh Al Kabeer’
Imam Mazi did in ‘Tehzeeb ul Kamal’.
Ibn e Hajar Askalani did relate this Hadees in ‘Tehzeeb Al Tehzeeb’.

According to all the people written above, this Hadees is all correct and is beautiful.

(2) HADEES OF HAZRAT SUBAN(R.A.);
the freed servant of Hazrat Muhammad(P.B.U.H.) :-

It is being related to Hazrat Suban(R.A.), that Hazrat Muhammad(P.B.U.H.) told that;
“ Two groups amongst My Ummah would be such, to whom Allah has freed from fire; One group would attack India & the Second would be that who would accompany Isa Ibn-e-Maryam(A.S.)”.

REFERENCE:-

The following Hadees quoters has quoted this Hadees as it is;

Imam Ahmad(R) in ‘Masnad’.
Imam Nisai(R) in ‘As Sunan Al Mujtaba’.
Sheikh Nasir-ud-Din Albani(R) approved this Hadees.
Same as in ‘As Sunan Al Kubra’.
Ibn-e-Abi Asim(R) in ‘Kitab Al Jihad’.
Ibn-e-Adi in ‘Al Kamil Fee Zaufa Ar Rijal’.
Tibrani(R) in ‘Al Mojam Al Aust’.
Behqi(R) in ‘As Sunan Al Kubra’.
Ibn-e-Kaseer(R) in ‘Al Badaya Wa Nahaya’.
Imam Welmi(R) in ‘Masnad Al-Firdous’.
Imam Syuti(R) in ‘Al Jaamay Al Kabeer’.
Imam Manavi(R) in Al Jaamay Al Kabeer’s commentary ‘Faiz Al Qadeer’.
Imam Bukhari(R) in ‘Al Tareekh Al Kabeer’.
Imam Mazi(R) in ‘Tehzeeb Al Kamal’.
Ibn-e-Asaakar(R) in ‘history of Damascus’.

(3) HAZRAT ABU HURAIRAH’s 2nd HADEES:-

It is related to Hazrat Abu Hurairah(R.A) that Hazrat Muhammad(P.B.U.H.) talked about Hindustan(India) & said:

“Definitely, one of your troop would do a war with Hindustan, Allah would grant success to those warriors, as far as they would bring their kings by dragging them in chains / fetters. And Allah would forgive those warriors (by the Blessing of this great war). And when those Muslims would return, they would find Hazrat Isa Ibn-e-Maryam(A.S.) in Syria (Shaam)”.

Hazrat Abu Hurairah (R.A.) told that ‘if I could find that Ghazwa, then would sell all my new & old goods and would participate in it. When Allah (S.W.T.) granted us success & we returned, then I would be a free Abu Hurairah; who would come in the country of Syria with such a pride of finding Hazrat Isa (A.S.) over there. O Muhammad(P.B.U.H.) ! that time it would be my intense wish that by coming closer to Hazrat Isa(A.S.), I may tell him that I am the Sahabi of Muhammad(P.B.U.H.).
The narrator tells that Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) smiled & said: ‘very difficult, very difficult’.

REFERENCE:-

Naeem bin Hammad quoted this Hadees in his book ‘Kitab Al Fitan’.
Ishaq bin Rahuya(R) also quoted this Hadees in his ‘Masnad’, in which there are few additions, so we are also quoting this narration as well, which is as follows:-
Hazrat Abu Hurairah (R.A.) says that, one day Hazoor (S.A.W.) said while talking about India(Hindustan);

‘Surely, your one troop would fight with Hindustan & Allah would Bless those Warriors(Mujahid) with success, that they would bring the leaders of Sindh in fetters, Allah would forgive the Warriors. Then, when they would return, they would find Isa Ibn-e-Maryam(A.S.) in Syria”.
Hazrat Abu Hurairah(R.A.) spoke:
‘If I get that Ghazwa, then would participate in it by selling all my old & new goods. When Allah would give us success, then we would come back & I would be a freed Abu Hurairah, who would come in Syria and would meet Hazrat Isa Ibn-e-Maryam(A.S.) there. O Allah’s Messenger (P.B.U.H.) ! that time, I would be in a deep desire to tell him by going close to him that I have the honour of having the company of Muhammad(P.B.U.H.).
The narrator tells that: Muhammad S.A.W. smiles by listening this.

(4) HADEES OF HAZRAT KAAB (R.A.):-

This is the Hadees of Hazrat Kaab(R.A.), he says that:

“ A King of Jerusalem (Bait-ul-Muqaddas) would make a troop move forward towards Hindustan. The Warriors destroy the land of Hind; would possess its treasures, then King would use those treasures for the décor of Jerusalem. That troop would bring the Indian kings in front of King(of Jerusalem). His Warriors by King’s order would conquer all the area between East & West. And would stay in Hindustan till the issue of Dajjal”.


REFERENCE:-

Naeem bin Hammad(R) Ustaaz Imam Bukhari(R) did narrate this Hadees in his book ‘Al-Fitan’. In it, the name of the quoter is not mentioned who related it to Hazrat Kaab(R.A.). But some Arabic words are being used, so this would be considered intersected.
Those wordings are as follows:
(Almuhkamubnu Naafi-in Amman Haddasahu An Kaabin)

(5) HADEES RELATED TO HAZRAT SAFWAAN BIN UMROO(R):-

This fifth Hadees is being related to Hazrat Safwaan bin Umroo(R) & is at contented stage according to its orders.
He says that some people told him that Hazoor (P.B.U.H.) said:

“Some people of My Ummah will fight with Hindustan, Allah would grant them with success, even they would find the Indian kings being trapped in fetters. Allah would forgive those Warriors. When they would move towards Syria, then would find Isa Ibn-e-Maryam(A.S.) over there”.

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Naeem bin Hammad did narrate this Hadees in ‘Al Fitan’.
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:26 AM   #15
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Is this not on about Mughal era
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:36 AM   #16
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(Here Ahabah and Sahabah are derived from the same root Hubb-to love.)


Uhm, I thought Sahabah comes from the root Sad - Ba' - Ha'; while Hubb from the root Ha' - Ba' - Ba'?...
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:37 AM   #17
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No offense, but Pakistanis need to get over themselves and this unfounded belief that they're the saviours of the ummah or something. "Only nuclear Muslim country"...and yet the Americans do whatever they want in Pakistan. People need to understand that nukes are pointless because no one is stupid enough to use them. The fallout affects everyone.

And khurasan has nothing to do with Pakistan: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ighlighted.jpg
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Old 10-21-2011, 01:55 AM   #18
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It must be strange living under one of the Prophet's (saw) predictions.

And of course the Turks love to mention that their army was the "best army" that Rasulullah (saw) predicted to capture Constantinople.

Rasulullah (saw) never mentioned my countrymen in SE Asia, as far as I know, whether regarding past, present or future.


all the true believers will have a role to play, no matter how small it's going to be. Our Muslim brothers in China are more than 100 million and still is untapped. I guess now we really have to focus on the quality and try to get ourselves and people closest to us to go back to the sunnah of the Prophet . Then we will have the opportunity to join with the earlier batches of the believers whom have been blessed with mercy and haq.
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:31 AM   #19
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So as a result of the Ghazwat e Hind, Pakistan will conquer India?
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:41 AM   #20
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http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43193

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