[GVsdJZ2H]

Ask yourself a Question, if God is One, why would he change his religion and make human kind different nations? The answer, which I believe is the true is the following verse from the Quran:

كَانَ ٱلنَّاسُ أُمَّةً۬ وَٲحِدَةً۬ فَبَعَثَ ٱللَّهُ ٱلنَّبِيِّـۧنَ مُبَشِّرِينَ وَمُنذِرِينَ وَأَنزَلَ مَعَهُمُ ٱلۡكِتَـٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ لِيَحۡكُمَ بَيۡنَ ٱلنَّاسِ فِيمَا ٱخۡتَلَفُواْ فِيهِۚ وَمَا ٱخۡتَلَفَ فِيهِ إِلَّا ٱلَّذِينَ أُوتُوهُ مِنۢ بَعۡدِ مَا جَآءَتۡهُمُ ٱلۡبَيِّنَـٰتُ بَغۡيَۢا بَيۡنَهُمۡۖ فَهَدَى ٱللَّهُ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ لِمَا ٱخۡتَلَفُواْ فِيهِ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ بِإِذۡنِهِۦۗ وَٱللَّهُ يَهۡدِى مَن يَشَآءُ إِلَىٰ صِرَٲطٍ۬ مُّسۡتَقِيمٍ (٢١٣)

Mankind was one single nation, and Allah sent Messengers with glad tidings and warnings; and with them He sent the Book in truth, to judge between people in matters wherein they differed; but the People of the Book, after the clear Signs came to them did not differ among themselves, except through selfish contumacy. Allah by His Grace guided the believers to the Truth concerning that wherein they differed. For Allah guides whom He will to a path that is straight. (2-213)

The difference came from the so called “The Religious Lords”, who misled human kinds through misinterpreting the One Book of God (Old Testament, The Bible, and The Quran--three books that are confrming one book) by either writing other books that make lies about prophets, or by mistranslating the original book to other languages.
When Jesus (PBUH) came the Children of Israel, he confronted the “Religious Lords” and their teachings, but he never confronted The Old Testment. When Mohamed (PBUH)came, he confronted “The Religious Lords”—Christian & Jews—but he never confronted the Bible & the Old Testament. Sadly, after the Death of Prophet Mohamed (PBUH), “Religious Lords” took over the Quran and misguided the people to Suni, Shia, Wahabi and so on by using a man made books that lies about God and other prophets.

A true Submitter (Moslem in arabic ) is the one that do the following:
Say ye: "We believe, in Allah and the revelation given to us and to Abraham Isma`il Isaac Jacob and the Tribes and that given to Moses and Jesus and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord we make no difference between one and another of them and we bow to Allah (in Islam)." (136) So if they believe as ye believe they are indeed on the right path; but if they turn back, it is they who are in schism; but Allah will suffice thee as against them, and He is the All-Hearing the All- Knowing. (2-137)

[tefraxKedWere]

Brother, with every word you type you ridicule and criticize every scholar that this great religion of Islam has ever had.

[GVsdJZ2H]

Brother, with every word you type you ridicule and criticize every scholar that this great religion of Islam has ever had.

I have questions for you regarding two verses in the Quran (30-31,32),


سُوۡرَةُ الرُّوم
بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ


مُنِيبِينَ إِلَيۡهِ وَٱتَّقُوهُ وَأَقِيمُواْ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ وَلَا تَكُونُواْ مِنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِڪِينَ (٣١) مِنَ ٱلَّذِينَ فَرَّقُواْ دِينَهُمۡ وَڪَانُواْ شِيَعً۬اۖ كُلُّ حِزۡبِۭ بِمَا لَدَيۡہِمۡ فَرِحُونَ (٣٢)

(And remain always) turning in repentance to Him (only), and be afraid and dutiful to Him; and perform AsSalât (IqâmatasSalât) and be not of AlMushrikûn (31) Of those who split up their religion , and became sects, [i.e. they invented new things in the religion (Bid'ah), and followed their vain desires], each sect rejoicing in that which is with it.[] (32)

From reading the above verse (30-31) in Arabic, I noted that God, at the end of the verse, warns the nation of Mohamed (PBUH) to not be from The “Mushrikeen”. Then in verse (32), God define the meaning of Mushrikeen as follow:

Those are the people who started with one religion, and then they split it into different sects.
After their splitting, they became different groups within themselves, and each group thinks that he is the right-guided one.

God, in the Quran, gave us examples of people of the Book, who did that before the Quran was revealed, the nation of Jesus and Moses (PBUH) examples.

My question is:

How the Nations of Jesus & Moses did split?
Are the Nation of Mohamed, today, one sect or different sects? And if they are different sects, how this happened?


Thank you, and looking forward for your answer.

[tefraxKedWere]

You approach the Quran in ignorance and leave it in greater ignorance. If everyone approached Islam as you do we would have a different version of Islam practiced by every Muslim on Earth.

You do not have the qualifications to interpret the Quran by yourself.

Follow the example of the sahaba and seek knowledge from those who know more.

[GVsdJZ2H]

You approach the Quran in ignorance and leave it in greater ignorance. If everyone approached Islam as you do we would have a different version of Islam practiced by every Muslim on Earth.

You do not have the qualifications to interpret the Quran by yourself.

Follow the example of the sahaba and seek knowledge from those who know more.

Peace,
Unless you know the answers to my questions, please do not respond. please let someone who has the knowledge to answer my questions.

[DrBrightonone]

Everyone can rest assured that the Hadith Rejectors will split into a an innumerable number of different sub-religions, simply because they have no Usool at all through which they can approach the text of the Qur'an. In the case of us the Ahl Us Sunnah the differences we have are due to the application of well defined criteria and rules of language and of knowledge, which in fact minimizes the amount of differences within a narrow range of acceptable possibilities.

So the Hadith rejectors are the ones who have placed themselves at the risk of mind-boggling fragmentation. This is why we have wildly differing Hadith Rejectors, with some of them accepting the 5 prayers, some saying they are supposed to be 3 prayers, some saying that the prayer is just a reading of the Quran to be done in the morning while you are walking, etc. Then we have others confused about whether Prophethood has ended or not, or whether alcohol is disliked or forbidden, and the like. If we pay close attention to the different Hadith Rejector groups, we will notice how easily they will fragment themselves over every imaginable issue.

And this is where the strength of having a proper system of Usool comes into play, as we have a restricted number of differences of opinion even though our primary texts are much more extensive than the Hadith Rejectors' text(s).

[maxfieldj1]

I have questions for you regarding two verses in the Quran (30-31,32),


سُوۡرَةُ الرُّوم
بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ


مُنِيبِينَ إِلَيۡهِ وَٱتَّقُوهُ وَأَقِيمُواْ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ وَلَا تَكُونُواْ مِنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِڪِينَ (٣١) مِنَ ٱلَّذِينَ فَرَّقُواْ دِينَهُمۡ وَڪَانُواْ شِيَعً۬اۖ كُلُّ حِزۡبِۭ بِمَا لَدَيۡہِمۡ فَرِحُونَ (٣٢)

(And remain always) turning in repentance to Him (only), and be afraid and dutiful to Him; and perform AsSalât (IqâmatasSalât) and be not of AlMushrikûn (31) Of those who split up their religion , and became sects, [i.e. they invented new things in the religion (Bid'ah), and followed their vain desires], each sect rejoicing in that which is with it.[] (32)

From reading the above verse (30-31) in Arabic, I noted that God, at the end of the verse, warns the nation of Mohamed (PBUH) to not be from The “Mushrikeen”. Then in verse (32), God define the meaning of Mushrikeen as follow:

Those are the people who started with one religion, and then they split it into different sects.
After their splitting, they became different groups within themselves, and each group thinks that he is the right-guided one.

God, in the Quran, gave us examples of people of the Book, who did that before the Quran was revealed, the nation of Jesus and Moses (PBUH) examples.

My question is:

How the Nations of Jesus & Moses did split?
Are the Nation of Mohamed, today, one sect or different sects? And if they are different sects, how this happened?


Thank you, and looking forward for your answer.

It seems that you are a student of history to some extent and probably already know the answer to your own question thus I am trying to attest whether you are looking for a confirmation of what you already have concluded or require a more longer detailed response ?

Since attempting to educate would take a while I would leave you on this note which inshAllah will prove to be beneficial:

The Quran over a period of time depending on the given situation the beloved Prophet of Allah [May Allah be please with him] was undergoing would reveal what a previous Prophet underwent to provide a teaching that he could enact to his followers. Most of the teaching from the Quran regards to human stimulus and responses to Allah and his Deen are universal truth that will be applicable to Past, Present and Future.
Pharaoh is an archetype of a character that exist[ed]s through out time and it is a character that you could become or fight against [depending on which side of the fence you end up on].

In conclusion if the Quran is indicating something then there is a probability that this will occur[ed]. Thus one of miracles of the Quran is its ability to interpret the human condition to universal truths that are bound by law [of nature] therefore inescapable.

Remember only Allah is perfect and all thing other then Allah is created and all created things will be effected. Islam although the ideal and perfect religion is creation and it is bestowed upon creation. Allah confirmed that he perfected the religion of Islam but its application he did not perfect since that is a pursuit of men so all men will falter in the ability to meet up to the expectation of the perfection of Islam barr the Prophets of Allah.

[LeslieMoran]

Assalamu alaykum

1. there is difference between fight and "to differ"

2. When there is a fight, there is party on Haq and other on baatil. The third person cannot declare that since both are fighting and I am on Haq.