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10-18-2011, 12:58 AM
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 Warning Against Foreign Efforts to Foment Discord Between Shia and Sunni
Supreme Leader Warns Against Foreign Efforts to Foment Discord Between Shia and Sunni
17/10/2011 In a meeting with the people of Paveh and Oraman in Kermanshah province, Ayatollah Khamenei the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution referred to the efforts of foreigners to foment discord between Shia and Sunni Muslims and stressed: "The main goal of the divisive actions of the enemy is to prevent the Islamic Republic from becoming a successful role model in the eyes of other nations." His Eminence said that Shia and Sunni Muslims share religious and ideological beliefs and that they have common interests. He added that the enemy is trying to reach its hegemonic goals by denying or discounting what Muslims have in common. Ayatollah Khamenei said that persistent and vigilant resistance is the only way of defeating the spiteful enemies of Islam and the Islamic Ummah. Addressing Muslim nations, he stressed: "Stand up against the enemy in a firm way just like the Iranian nation, otherwise they will become more insolent. And after separating Shia from Sunni, they will definitely start fomenting discord among different Sunni denominations." The Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution said that the admiration of the regional nations for the people of Iran is a good opportunity to increase Iran's influence over public opinion in the world of Islam. He added: "The great and wise people of Iran have turned into a standard for credibility in the minds of other nations. And this is to the advantage of both the Iranian nation and the regional nations." His Eminence pointed out that the Iranian nation and the Islamic Republic do not claim leadership of the regional nations. He added that every nation chooses its path by relying on its own capacities and identity. He stressed that the regional nations admire the Iranian nation because of its achievements over the past 32 years. |
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10-18-2011, 02:20 AM
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I normally would not answer in this tone, but we are talking about Khamenei, who is for all practical purposes considered the deputy of the 'Hidden Imam' for those who follow him, so every word he says can be used against the Twelver Shias. Let us analyze the sayings of Khamenei and see what we can decipher from it.
In a meeting with the people of Paveh and Oraman in Kermanshah province, Ayatollah Khamenei the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution referred to the efforts of foreigners to foment discord between Shia and Sunni Muslims and stressed: "The main goal of the divisive actions of the enemy is to prevent the Islamic Republic from becoming a successful role model in the eyes of other nations." I am definitely one of the enemies of Khamenei and his 'Revolution', and it has definitely nothing to do with foreign powers. What my enmity to him and his 'Revolution' does have to do is with trying to get rid of a religion which throws every vituperation against the noble Sahabah and belittles the scholars and works of the scholars of the Ahl us Sunnah. Thus, I and those like me will fight on day and night until we suceed in crushing Shiaism or die in the process. As Allah says, quoting the words of the believers: قُلْ هَلْ تَرَبَّصُونَ بِنَا إِلَّا إِحْدَى الْحُسْنَيَيْنِ Say: Can ye await for us aught save one of two good things (death or victory in Allah's way)? His Eminence said that Shia and Sunni Muslims share religious and ideological beliefs and that they have common interests. He added that the enemy is trying to reach its hegemonic goals by denying or discounting what Muslims have in common. We have nothing in common with Shias except coincidental terminology, just like Bahais share some similar terms with Shias but it does not move beyond that. If Khamenei and his co-religionists are serious, we will throw them a challenge: Stop insisting that there is such a thing as 'Infalible Imamah' along with what it entails (like 'Ali's (RAA) rights were taken away, or that the Prophet (SAW) was poisoned by Ayesha and Hafsa under the orders of Abu Bakr and Umar (RAA), and other similar things), remove this concept from your religion, and then I can assure you that we will indeed have common interests. Ayatollah Khamenei said that persistent and vigilant resistance is the only way of defeating the spiteful enemies of Islam and the Islamic Ummah. We will resist Shiaism, one of the true spiteful enemies of Islam and the Islamic Ummah, until the end of our lives. Khamenei can rest assured of this, and he should not think otherwise. Addressing Muslim nations, he stressed: "Stand up against the enemy in a firm way just like the Iranian nation, otherwise they will become more insolent. And after separating Shia from Sunni, they will definitely start fomenting discord among different Sunni denominations." This is saber-rattling. We stand up against all of our enemies, whether they are Jewish, Christians, or Shias. And we know about our own Sunni denominations well enough to know where to stop the discord within our own ranks. The Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution said that the admiration of the regional nations for the people of Iran is a good opportunity to increase Iran's influence over public opinion in the world of Islam. He added: "The great and wise people of Iran have turned into a standard for credibility in the minds of other nations. And this is to the advantage of both the Iranian nation and the regional nations." I do not know about which nations he is talking about, but any knowledgeable Sunni who understands the differences between us and the Shias will never think of having any good feelings towards the Shias. The only credible Shia is the one who converts to Islam. His Eminence pointed out that the Iranian nation and the Islamic Republic do not claim leadership of the regional nations. He added that every nation chooses its path by relying on its own capacities and identity. He stressed that the regional nations admire the Iranian nation because of its achievements over the past 32 years. Again, there is no admiration of Khamenei and his 'achievements' from here. With respect to leadership, the Shia troublemakers all over the world look for inspiration and direct guidance from Khamenei and his minions. I am sure this is something not very difficult to acknowledge for anyone. |
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10-18-2011, 05:26 AM
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Supreme Leader Warns Against Foreign Efforts to Foment Discord Between Shia and Sunni Does his Wilayate Faqih even recognizes the Sunnis of Iran? He does not give the Sunnis of Iran their rights and you want us to believe his Shia-Sunni Unity slogans? |
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10-18-2011, 03:49 PM
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سلام علیکم brothers and sisters.
to my brothers,i'd like to say that you can think in every way you want,cause it's your mind and your personal belives , because of this authirity in thinking and beliving God can judge about these,It's being true or not,in the resurrection day. you'r thinking and beliving and saying are not Important any more. everyone in the world now can analize the events which occure in world and the persons who help to controll and to finish and solve the problems. Leader's speaks and his acts and his behavior ,is showihng everything about him(may Allah prottect him).no need to proof ourself whith denying your Oriented surface sayings which just wan to show your blindly enmities!! you know it's so cute and funny for me the way that some of you, are fighting against Shia Madhab during years but when you see that It's still powerful and actually it's became more and more powerful and more speared than ever,you still continue your unprofitable enmity.one day you will undrestand,that it's too late.... . |
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10-18-2011, 04:56 PM
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I say that if the Shia religion is becoming more prominent, then this is because Allah has allowed for the evil to spread in this world. After all, the prophecies mention that as we get closer to the Day of Judgment, the evil ideologies will become more prominent, and the people will move farther and father away from Islam. If it is true that the Shia religion is becoming more prominent, then it is only one of the calamities that needs to befall this world before the Day of Judgment arrives. Regarding our 'unprofitable enmity', it is not about profit in numbers, but about the truth. We swear that even if all the world were to convert to Twelver Shiaism, we would still continue fighting it tooth and nail until we achieve victory over it or death befalls us. |
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10-18-2011, 05:10 PM
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Abdollah,
I've read several books from Shiite who attempt to guide Sunnis to their side. This includes Ask Those who Know from Al Tijani. The allegations, evidences, positions are simply inferior intellectually. And Ali ibn Abi Talib (rah) himself loved the the sahaba who today's Shiite revile. Two of his sons are named Abu Bakr and Umar. So who are you following? What are you doing? What is Shiism today? It's well known that Shiism began spreading and growing after the British empire began influencing and shaping the Persian state under the Qajar regime, getting the Shia rulers to sign away large swathes of Muslim territory while allowing the British to set up schools and shape Persian thinking. In fact, Shia led Persia was bolstered by the British as a front against the Uthmani sultan. What is Iran today? Is it the embodiment of Shiism? Because if I recall correctly, Khomeini admitted that he FAILED. And how about the growing number of Iranians converting to other religions, including reviving Zorastarianism? |
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10-18-2011, 06:44 PM
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If Iran is serious about shia sunni unity, they will let the sunnis in iran have rights and freedoms. Until we see some concrete action, anything they say regarding unity will be taken as nothing but taqiyyah (deception). So let us see you acknowledge teh sunni community of iran and give tehm full rights and then come and talk to us about unity inshAllah. If you are serious about unity abdullah, then begin your campaign for teh rights of the sunnis in iran
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10-18-2011, 06:57 PM
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If Iran is serious about shia sunni unity, they will let the sunnis in iran have rights and freedoms. Until we see some concrete action, anything they say regarding unity will be taken as nothing but taqiyyah (deception). So let us see you acknowledge teh sunni community of iran and give tehm full rights and then come and talk to us about unity inshAllah. If you are serious about unity abdullah, then begin your campaign for teh rights of the sunnis in iran |
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10-20-2011, 01:12 AM
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10-20-2011, 01:15 AM
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Its funny that you mention this. Shia from Iran are welcomed to hajj every year (except this year due to this alleged assasination plot) but Sunnis in Iran are denied masajid and adhan and denied forming independent jumuah prayers and 100s have been executed from southeast Iran because of simple ties to various groups. |
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