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Old 05-21-2011, 09:57 AM   #21
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Uhh how does this chart work or how does it help? It just seems like a bunch of random tables with "Fajr, Dhuhr, etc.." written on the side.


For those who have years of Qada Salah to make up. One can take a print out of the chart and put up on the wall. Then he can mark on it when he start praying Qada Salah, its easy to keep count with the chart.

Edit: As the sister pointed out below it would be better to keep the print out in a secret location than publicly on the wall. Missing Salah intentionally is a sin and we should not publicize our Sins.
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Old 05-21-2011, 10:38 AM   #22
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For those who have years of Qada Salah to make up. One can take a print out of the chart and put up on the wall. Then he can mark on it when he start praying Qada Salah, its easy to keep count with the chart.
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But can this be really hung on the wall for I heard leaving the salah in the prescribed time and making qaza is indeed a sin and normally the sins should be hidden and so are the qaza salahs as I heard in a bayan. So i think one has to keep the qaza salahs to himself and his spiritual guide. Allahu alam I may be wrong. I hope someone could correct. Wassalam.
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Old 05-21-2011, 12:15 PM   #23
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But can this be really hung on the wall for I heard leaving the salah in the prescribed time and making qaza is indeed a sin and normally the sins should be hidden and so are the qaza salahs as I heard in a bayan. So i think one has to keep the qaza salahs to himself and his spiritual guide. Allahu alam I may be wrong. I hope someone could correct. Wassalam.


Yes you are right. It would be a mistake to hang it on the wall if someone else sees it. One can keep the printout in a safer location where no one will see. It would be more appropriate if it is in the computer itself. The word file posted in this thread is good. One will be able to mark it in the computer itself.
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Old 05-22-2011, 02:19 AM   #24
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Thanks verdana and ursis for your charts. We need more stuff like this that makes the deen more 'practical' than just mere talk. Just a clarification on the witr and things. I went through a bunch of Sunnipath answers and sorted through them, and here are some things I found and save everybody some hassle (even though sunnipath makes for some good reading over tea).

In all madhabs one must make up missed fardh prayers. In the Hanafi madhab one must make up all fardh AND sunnah mu'akada prayers, since abandoning the sunnah mu'akada without excuse is considered sinful. In the Hanafi madhab witr is wajib so that must also be made up. In the Shafi'i madhab one must make up all fardh/wajib prayers but one does NOT need to make up sunnah mu'akada prayers. One can make up sunnah mu'aka prayers from the past however, after one has made up all their missed fardh/wajib prayers. It is important in the Shafi'i madhab however to not abandon the sunnah mu'akada of one's current prayers. In the Shafi'i madhab, witr is a sunnah and thus does NOT need to be made up, rather preference should be given to making up the fardh/wajib missed prayers. Also for either or any madhab, one should not abandon the sunnah IN the prayers and make their prayers the bare-bones arkan in hopes of speeding things up, since though the prayer is valid in Shariah (and no qadhi or faqih can say you didn't make up your prayers) it does not guarantee an acceptance from Allah, which is the whole goal of the prayer.

Thanks for the thread everybody. It alerted me to the fact I have prayers to make up and am working on it now. As a piece of advice, making up prayers sounds harder than it actually is and thats probably a cognitive bias trick from shaytan to discourage us. In the time you took to read, re-read and understand this post you could've completed your Fajr or Maghrib qadha prayers.
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Old 05-22-2011, 04:26 AM   #25
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In the Hanafi madhab one must make up all fardh AND sunnah mu'akada prayers, since abandoning the sunnah mu'akada without excuse is considered sinful. In the Hanafi madhab witr is wajib so that must also be made up. In the Shafi'i madhab one must make up all fardh/wajib prayers but one does NOT need to make up sunnah mu'akada prayers.


Brother I have the impression you may have misunderstood the thing here.

What is said in the fatawa is that one should make up one's missed fard and wajib prayers along with praying the sunnah mu'akkadah of the present time, and that is stated because someone asked if he could leave out the current sunnah mu'akkadah salat in order to have more time for the qada of fard and wajib, and the scholars said that you shouldn't leave your current sunnah mu'akkadah because it's sinful to leave them without a valid reason.
But you don't have to make up the missed sunnah mu'akkadah as there is no need to make them up.

If it was me misunderstanding please correct me,
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Old 10-12-2011, 06:53 AM   #26
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Did anyone like my chart?
Brother verdana i cannot download your chart. Can you upload it again please ?



What is said in the fatawa is that one should make up one's missed fard and wajib prayers along with praying the sunnah mu'akkadah of the present time, and that is stated because someone asked if he could leave out the current sunnah mu'akkadah salat in order to have more time for the qada of fard and wajib, and the scholars said that you shouldn't leave your current sunnah mu'akkadah because it's sinful to leave them without a valid reason. Ya Allah make it easy for me.
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Old 10-12-2011, 01:41 PM   #27
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Brother verdana i cannot download your chart. Can you upload it again please ?
Wow, I am glad that someone finally asked for it

http://qalifba.com/pdf/qada.pdf
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:01 PM   #28
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Bismillah
Assalamu alaikum WW
Can any scholar answer if one can perform qadha salah after performing witr salah because I heard witr should be the last salah?
jazaakumAllahu khayraa
Wassalam
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:06 PM   #29
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Bismillah
Assalamu alaikum WW
Can any scholar answer if one can perform qadha salah after performing witr salah because I heard witr should be the last salah?
jazaakumAllahu khayraa
Wassalam


There are even 2 rak'atayn nafl Salah after Witr; I think that hadith is understood differently by Ahnaf, so there shouldn't be any problem with that...
Allah knows best.
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Old 10-13-2011, 03:30 AM   #30
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During last ramadan a group of brothers performed in Jamaah Qada of a whole day in just 15 min.

Let's make a rough calculation to find out how many days will it take to perform Qada of an entire year:

15min is 0.0104166667 days.

We have total 365 days.

365 * 0.0104166667 = 3.8 days ~ 4 days.

Let's say wee need to have a sleep for 4 hours a day, 2 hours for dining + bathroom needs = 6 per day. Total waste of time for 4 days is 24 hours, add this up:

Result:

With the spare time of 6 hours per day, only 5 days is needed to perform Qada of an entire year!

Isn't that cool?

It means only 3 weekends.
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Old 10-13-2011, 04:46 AM   #31
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During last ramadan a group of brothers performed in Jamaah Qada of a whole day in just 15 min.

Let's make a rough calculation to find out how many days will it take to perform Qada of an entire year:

15min is 0.0104166667 days.

We have total 365 days.

365 * 0.0104166667 = 3.8 days ~ 4 days.

Let's say wee need to have a sleep for 4 hours a day, 2 hours for dining + bathroom needs = 6 per day. Total waste of time for 4 days is 24 hours, add this up:

Result:

With the spare time of 6 hours per day, only 5 days is needed to perform Qada of an entire year!

Isn't that cool?

It means only 3 weekends.
Brother,

when you break it down like that it does looks very doable; you what i mean !

for this really, you just made my day

because i am just starting out and i know i shouldn't say this but

shaitan was magnifying it for me, i guess i should just be a man and start
A chilla for me and i am back on track

One more thing, you mentioned the brothers doing qadha jamaat so can you please provide
a source or a scholarly opinion for that as well ?
i am going to ask my local mufti sahab about this it's just that i have found a little homework
beforehand always helps.

for all this. May Allah SWT give barakah in your life.
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