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Old 05-11-2010, 08:08 PM   #1
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Default Ottomans and setting up Musallas for Salah
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Old 05-11-2010, 08:13 PM   #2
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THat was my post...It was something I watched long time ago, will try to look it up
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Old 05-11-2010, 08:22 PM   #3
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Many Turks live in Germany and they still today take buildings Masajid very serious. May Allah reward them.
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Old 05-11-2010, 09:42 PM   #4
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I have been told by Turkish dervişler (murideen) that the Ottomans used to build masaajid in the state of wudhu, according to them this is the reason why one feels more barakah when praying in one of the ancient Ottoman masaajid than praying in the new masaajid which are built by people without wudhu, open-sinners, etc..

And Allah ta'ala knows best.

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Old 05-11-2010, 09:47 PM   #5
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I have been told by Turkish dervişler (murideen) that the Ottomans used to build masaajid in the state of wudhu, according to them this is the reason why one feels more barakah when praying in one of the ancient Ottoman masaajid than praying in the new masaajid which are built by people without wudhu, open-sinners, etc..

And Allah ta'ala knows best.



I've heard that also.
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:39 PM   #6
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Whoah.......talk about adab. Snap
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Old 05-11-2010, 11:28 PM   #7
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Whoah.......talk about adab. Snap


Yeah, wasn't expecting that at all!
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Old 05-11-2010, 11:40 PM   #8
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and no building is taller than Ka'abah during Ottoman's period.
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Old 05-11-2010, 11:45 PM   #9
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and no building is taller than Ka'abah during Ottoman's period.


Do you have a source for this? Hearing this means so much to me, .

Just to think how many nowadays wouldn't even understand that concept.. or would class a viewpoint like that as 'innovative', etc.



The stories of Ulama & Mashaykh treasuring relics from Makkah & Madina are countless. Mashaykh even treasured the date-seeds from Madina and showed Adab towards them.
There are incidents narrated in one or 2 of Shaykh Zulfiqar (d.b.)'s books that show the reverence in which our elders held Madinah Al-Munawwara. Some beautiful stories.

http://www.tasawwuf.org/writings/lov...ve_deoband.pdf
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Old 05-12-2010, 12:37 AM   #10
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Do you have a source for this? Hearing this means so much to me, .
sorry I don't have the source and I don't remember where I get the quote. It could be meant that the buildings on the Ka'abah's vicinity never been taller than the Ka'abah itself because any buildings built on the hill can be taller than Ka'abah and the minaret itself is taller than Ka'abah

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Old 05-12-2010, 03:53 AM   #11
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sorry I don't have the source and I don't remember where I get the quote. It could be meant that the buildings on the Ka'abah's vicinity never been taller than the Ka'abah itself because any buildings built on the hill can be taller than Ka'abah and the minaret itself is taller than Ka'abah


Even if there were buildings taller, at least they probably wouldn't have been anything like today. Look at this. And wht is worse is the amount of shops all around the Haram. It is possible that some people waste a lot of their reward due to spending time in the markets (most hated part of a city to Allah) surrounding the Haramayn.

May Allah protect us. Ameen.
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Old 05-13-2010, 03:49 AM   #12
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When General Anwar Pasha reached Madinah after the rebellion of Shareef and family of Saud he walked bare feet in hot baking sun and refused to wear shoes and said his Salam upon the Prophet (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam)'s grave and Shaykh (Maulana) Zakariyya (RA) has described this in his books. the salafis say Najd wasnt under ottoman control, so they didnt rebel.

BTW its getting worse>
Non-Muslims to be allowed to live in part of Medina - The National Newspaper
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:35 AM   #13
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http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ay-Photo-Album
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Old 05-14-2010, 03:57 AM   #14
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But until their last day (my uncle and my father) both loved the Ottomans. In my childhood it was common for Muslims to wear the dress particularly the cap of the Ottomans at weddings and even by Ulama on Eid and Jummuah. As Br Umar & Al-Faruqi saw in UK a few weeks ago, I still wear my Ottoman hat with pride.
Interesting post. First of all, what does the Ottaman cap look like?

Secondly, a Bulgarian friend of mine was explaining to me quite passionately how the Ottamans destroyed their country, including forcing people to convert to Islam and burning people who didn't. Were these kind of tactics commonly used by the Ottamans? I can understand Bulgarians may be taught a certain 'version' of history, however, I doubt if it is all false. Any insight?
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Old 05-14-2010, 08:04 AM   #15
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Secondly, a Bulgarian friend of mine was explaining to me quite passionately how the Ottamans destroyed their country, including forcing people to convert to Islam and burning people who didn't. Were these kind of tactics commonly used by the Ottamans? I can understand Bulgarians may be taught a certain 'version' of history, however, I doubt if it is all false. Any insight?


This is absolutely incorrect. Ottomans never coerced any nation to accept Islam. That's why we have so many Churches throughout the lands where Ottoman was able to lay their hands on. Long generation of non-Muslims in the midst of Turkey is also prove to that.

Brother Colonel_Hardstone,

May Allah reward you for all of your beautiful messages regarding Ottoman history. Your words put my heart in tears.

Jazakumullahu khairan kathira!
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Old 05-14-2010, 08:30 AM   #16
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Colonel_Hardstone's posts about 'Uthmâni Khilâfah and its history are indeed wonderful, Allâh râzi olsun!

Each time a I read or hear about the 'Uthmâni Khilâfah I feel like getting some sort of imân rush (isn't it called feyz in Turkish?) and then I wish I could experience the 'Uthmâni Khilâfah while still in power...

Ruhuna fatiha for Sultan Abdul-Hameed Khan Ghazi ().

@ Brother Verdana, do you know any good English books about Ottoman history? (preferably written by Muslims/Muslim scholars.)

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Old 05-14-2010, 10:55 PM   #17
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some more pictures from the Uthmaniah

http://www.ottomanpalestine.com/PALE...RE_GALLERY.htm
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Old 05-15-2010, 12:03 AM   #18
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some more pictures from the Uthmaniah

http://www.ottomanpalestine.com/PALE...RE_GALLERY.htm


those pics are truly something!!!
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Old 05-15-2010, 02:36 AM   #19
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Sultan Abdul-Hameed Khan Ghazi even to the last day REFUSED to handover Palestine and old-frail-Khalifah went to negotiate in full uniform and full battle-gear and famously said, “If you offer me all the gold of the world adding it to your 150 mln, I won’t agree to give you the land. I have served the Islam and the ummah of Mohammad, peace and blessings be upon him, for more than 30 years, and I won’t cloud the Islamic history, the history of my fathers and grand fathers Ottoman sultans and caliph.” (Marks. K; Engels, F; Comp, T. V. 10, p. 173)"

Fills your heart with pride. May Allah (SWT) forgive his sins and raise his ranks in Jannah (Ameen)
Ameen!! Ameen!! Ameen!!

Colonel_Hardstone's posts about 'Uthmâni Khilâfah and its history are indeed wonderful, Allâh râzi olsun!
ALLAH swt sendende razi olsun aziz kardesim... Bruder ich hab länger nichts von dir gehört...inschallah geht es dir gut Bruder

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Old 05-15-2010, 05:10 AM   #20
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some more pictures from the Uthmaniah

http://www.ottomanpalestine.com/PALE...RE_GALLERY.htm
Was disappointed to see that none of the men in the pictures had beards, but had long mustaches instead- exactly what the Prophet hated. Is there any reason for this?
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