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Old 10-08-2011, 09:20 PM   #1
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:48 PM   #2
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Hi georgieboy,

Are you a Muslim already?
If not are in you interested in Islam?
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Old 10-09-2011, 03:08 AM   #3
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Well,I am exploring the different monotheisms(that is:Judaism and Islam,since I don't consider Christianity as a monotheistic religion),but I don't feel I am ready to chose one of them yet.
But you do believe there is a God, One God, don't you?
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:25 AM   #4
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Well,I am exploring the different monotheisms(that is:Judaism and Islam,since I don't consider Christianity as a monotheistic religion),but I don't feel I am ready to chose one of them yet.
Interesting video althrough i wonder how widespread this practice is.
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:28 AM   #5
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Well,I am exploring the different monotheisms(that is:Judaism and Islam,since I don't consider Christianity as a monotheistic religion),but I don't feel I am ready to chose one of them yet.
You say you are exploring Judaism and Islam but based on your posts i think you are more interested in Islam and less interested in Judaism i mean your posts about Judaism seem more like a refutation of it then an exploration.

How are your Islamic studies going so far do you have any questions?
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:52 PM   #6
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but what about Islam?Is it permissible to transfer your sins to anything/anyone else or are you always held responsible for them and have to ask God's forgiveness without these tricks?
No tricks in Islam. One cannot transfer ones sins to others. We are held responsible for whatever we do be it good or bad. But Allah is the Most Merciful, So if we repent sincerely He will forgive our sins. But we cannot know if Allah has forgiven us or not, hence we should repent and ask for Forgiveness as much as we can. Sometimes Allah might forgive someones sins due to his Good deeds due to Allah's infinite Mercy. The key element here is our 'intention'. Our intention is to be sincere to please Allah the Almighty alone. Allah is not in need of our good deeds, but we are the ones who need it.

The only Sin that Allah will not forgive is 'Shirk' ie Associating others with Allah in worship. BUT if one repents sincerely Allah WILL forgive 'shirk' also. People who convert to Islam repenting of their 'Shirk', they have all their previous Sins forgiven. But they will be taken into account of their deeds they do after they become Muslim.
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:58 PM   #7
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As far as my studies,I have just began to read the Quran in English;but I think it will take time before I eventually convert because it's a decision for life and one has to be 100% sure about it.As for this idiotic practice of the Jews,unfortunately it's quite widespread and accepted more or less everywhere.The voices against it are a minority;but what about Islam?Is it permissible to transfer your sins to anything/anyone else or are you always held responsible for them and have to ask God's forgiveness without these tricks?
The Qur'an is quite clear. It mentions that no soul shall bear the burden of another. There has never been the concept of original sin in Islam. There has been no concept of a sacrificial "son of God" in Islam. There has been no concept of people or animals bearing the sins of a sinner. We are all responsible for our beliefs and actions, not of others.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:34 PM   #8
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The only Sin that Allah will not forgive is 'Shirk' ie Associating others with Allah in worship. BUT if one repents sincerely Allah WILL forgive 'shirk' also. People who convert to Islam repenting of their 'Shirk', they have all their previous Sins forgiven. But they will be taken into account of their deeds they do after they become Muslim.


in this world shirk is forgiven as well. (conditional on repentance and asking forgiveness and letting go of shirk of course)

the only time it is not forgiven is in the next world even though Allah may forgive other sins at His mercy. the condition about shirk never being forgiven is not for this world but the next.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:44 PM   #9
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in this world shirk is forgiven as well. (conditional on repentance and asking forgiveness and letting go of shirk of course)

the only time it is not forgiven is in the next world even though Allah may forgive other sins at His mercy. the condition about shirk never being forgiven is not for this world but the next.


I did mention that. But i m not good with words. for mentioning it in a better manner bro.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:46 PM   #10
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No tricks in Islam. One cannot transfer ones sins to others. We are held responsible for whatever we do be it good or bad. But Allah is the Most Merciful, So if we repent sincerely He will forgive our sins. But we cannot know if Allah has forgiven us or not, hence we should repent and ask for Forgiveness as much as we can. Sometimes Allah might forgive someones sins due to his Good deeds due to Allah's infinite Mercy. The key element here is our 'intention'. Our intention is to be sincere to please Allah the Almighty alone. Allah is not in need of our good deeds, but we are the ones who need it.

The only Sin that Allah will not forgive is 'Shirk' ie Associating others with Allah in worship. BUT if one repents sincerely Allah WILL forgive 'shirk' also. People who convert to Islam repenting of their 'Shirk', they have all their previous Sins forgiven. But they will be taken into account of their deeds they do after they become Muslim.
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Old 10-09-2011, 10:05 PM   #11
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Hi GB,
I think I have invited you to Islam but I'll repeat that invitation nevertheless. It will be better if you have a separate thread about your own progress in understanding Islam so that these things do not get buried in other things.
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Old 10-10-2011, 03:00 AM   #12
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GB, are you by any chance from Italy and do we know each other?
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Old 10-10-2011, 05:00 AM   #13
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Yes,I am from Italy but I don't think I know you.Sorry.(Btw,how did you guess I am italian?)
Because actually I think we know each other, albeit just from the web.
Does the forum in my signature reminds you of anything?
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:29 AM   #14
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Yes,I know that forum even if I am not registered in it.But I still don't get why you are so sure we know each other....
I'm not sure; just think this is most likely the case; you don't find many people with the same ideas as yours, do you?
I think there is a difference between not being registered and not being active anymore on a forum, anyway, if you insist not to be Iu. on there, I won't insist neither in my supposition!

Anyway, may Allah guide you to Islam, to the Right Path and thus to salvation.

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Old 10-10-2011, 12:17 PM   #15
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Georgies boy look after our friend from Italy and don't send the mafia after him
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Old 10-10-2011, 12:52 PM   #16
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Yes,I know that forum even if I am not registered in it.But I still don't get why you are so sure we know each other....
Sono Indiano.
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:46 AM   #17
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I guess the title of the Thread is a bit misleading it's like saying ''Muslims worship graves'' based on what some Bareilwis do wrong while we all know that the Bareilwis are a minority (like the Shia) within the Muslim community i think we must be fair especially when dealing with inter-faith dialogues or when we talk about other religions. BTW a simple google search would have provided information wich shows that even a lot of Jews are opposed to the practice of Kapparot
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