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Old 10-08-2011, 12:34 AM   #1
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I found my answer and this is exactly why I HATE Inter-Faith Dialogues. I was hunting for this book after I came across it at my local bookstore. Majlis e Ulema South Africa, you rock! May Allah SWT give you aafiyatt, ikhlaas & isteqaamatt in the service of Deen. Summa Aameen.

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The Inter-Faith Trap of KUFR : THE MISSION OF THE AMBIYA
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The Mission of the Ambiya was only ONE – the propagation of Tauheed with clarity and emphasis. The uncompromising theme of Tauheed permeates the entire Qur’aan Majeed. The Ambiya (alayhimus salaam) were commanded to vociferously assert the Haqq of Tauheed and to clarify that all else besides the Tauheed of Islam is falsehood. Thus, the Qur’aan commands:

“Say (O Muhammad!) Verily it has been revealed to me that most certainly your God is only One God. What, will you (not) become Muslimoon?”(Al-Ambiya, Aayat 108)

When the kuffaar rejected Tauheed and spread their brand of ‘Islamophobia’, Hadhrat Ibraaheem (alayhis salaam) did not seek to reconcile with the unbelievers in a joint-program of propagation which elevates the false religion of idolatry to the status of Islam. He did not seek an inter-faith seminar or dialogue with the kuffaar to gain recognition either for him or for even Tauheed. Islam had to be accepted on its own merits, not by way of striking up a common platform which promotes concepts and ideologies which are the very antithesis of Tauheed.

In contrast to the attitude of the Muslim purveyors of inter-faith seminars, Nabi Ibraaheem (alayhis salaam) embarked on the destruction of kufr by physically destroying the idols of worship thereby courting the wrath of the idolaters. He did not listen to the kufr preaching of the unbelievers.
On the contrary, the Qur’aan Majeed says with regard to Hadhrat Ibraaheem’s uncompromising proclamation of Tauheed: “He (Ibraaheem) said: Verily, you and your forefathers had (always) been in manifest deviation.’ They (the unbelievers) said (in response): ‘Have you come to us with the Truth or are you among those who amuse.’ He (Ibraaheem) said: ‘Assuredly, your Rabb is the Rabb of the heavens and the earth, The One Who has created them, and I am among those who testify to this. By Allah! I shall make a plan with your idols after you have taken leave.’ Then, he smashed them (the idols) into bits…….” (Al-Ambiya, Aayaat 54 – 58)


“He (Ibraaheem) said: ‘What, do you worship besides Allah things which cannot benefit you in any way whatsoever nor harm you. Fie on you and on those things you worship besides Allah. What! Have you no intelligence?” (Al-Ambiya, Aayaat 65 – 67)

This is the spirit and teaching of the Qur’aan when Tauheed is propagated. The Truth has to be administered unambiguously without according the slightest accommodation for the promotion of kufr as usually happens at inter-faith seminars and dialogue where Islam and false ideologies of kufr, shirk and atheism are all lumped together on the same platform in a collective effort of propagation, each exponent of baatil being allowed the opportunity to expound doctrines and exercises of spirituality which are abhorrent to Allah Azza Wa Jal.



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Old 10-08-2011, 02:56 AM   #2
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wrwb.

I found my answer and this is exactly why I HATE Inter-Faith Dialogues. I was hunting for this book after I came across it at my local bookstore. Majlis e Ulema South Africa, you rock! May Allah SWT give you aafiyatt, ikhlaas & isteqaamatt in the service of Deen. Summa Aameen.

There's no comparing Islam.

The Inter-Faith Trap of KUFR : THE MISSION OF THE AMBIYA
a. s.


The Mission of the Ambiya was only ONE – the propagation of Tauheed with clarity and emphasis. The uncompromising theme of Tauheed permeates the entire Qur’aan Majeed. The Ambiya (alayhimus salaam) were commanded to vociferously assert the Haqq of Tauheed and to clarify that all else besides the Tauheed of Islam is falsehood. Thus, the Qur’aan commands:

“Say (O Muhammad!) Verily it has been revealed to me that most certainly your God is only One God. What, will you (not) become Muslimoon?”(Al-Ambiya, Aayat 108)

When the kuffaar rejected Tauheed and spread their brand of ‘Islamophobia’, Hadhrat Ibraaheem (alayhis salaam) did not seek to reconcile with the unbelievers in a joint-program of propagation which elevates the false religion of idolatry to the status of Islam. He did not seek an inter-faith seminar or dialogue with the kuffaar to gain recognition either for him or for even Tauheed. Islam had to be accepted on its own merits, not by way of striking up a common platform which promotes concepts and ideologies which are the very antithesis of Tauheed.

In contrast to the attitude of the Muslim purveyors of inter-faith seminars, Nabi Ibraaheem (alayhis salaam) embarked on the destruction of kufr by physically destroying the idols of worship thereby courting the wrath of the idolaters. He did not listen to the kufr preaching of the unbelievers.
On the contrary, the Qur’aan Majeed says with regard to Hadhrat Ibraaheem’s uncompromising proclamation of Tauheed: “He (Ibraaheem) said: Verily, you and your forefathers had (always) been in manifest deviation.’ They (the unbelievers) said (in response): ‘Have you come to us with the Truth or are you among those who amuse.’ He (Ibraaheem) said: ‘Assuredly, your Rabb is the Rabb of the heavens and the earth, The One Who has created them, and I am among those who testify to this. By Allah! I shall make a plan with your idols after you have taken leave.’ Then, he smashed them (the idols) into bits…….” (Al-Ambiya, Aayaat 54 – 58)


“He (Ibraaheem) said: ‘What, do you worship besides Allah things which cannot benefit you in any way whatsoever nor harm you. Fie on you and on those things you worship besides Allah. What! Have you no intelligence?” (Al-Ambiya, Aayaat 65 – 67)

This is the spirit and teaching of the Qur’aan when Tauheed is propagated. The Truth has to be administered unambiguously without according the slightest accommodation for the promotion of kufr as usually happens at inter-faith seminars and dialogue where Islam and false ideologies of kufr, shirk and atheism are all lumped together on the same platform in a collective effort of propagation, each exponent of baatil being allowed the opportunity to expound doctrines and exercises of spirituality which are abhorrent to Allah Azza Wa Jal.



http://books.themajlis.net/node/725
i agree and see sense in every single word in this post
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:40 AM   #3
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wrwb.

I found my answer and this is exactly why I HATE Inter-Faith Dialogues. I was hunting for this book after I came across it at my local bookstore. Majlis e Ulema South Africa, you rock! May Allah SWT give you aafiyatt, ikhlaas & isteqaamatt in the service of Deen. Summa Aameen.

There's no comparing Islam.

The Inter-Faith Trap of KUFR : THE MISSION OF THE AMBIYA
a. s.


The Mission of the Ambiya was only ONE – the propagation of Tauheed with clarity and emphasis. The uncompromising theme of Tauheed permeates the entire Qur’aan Majeed. The Ambiya (alayhimus salaam) were commanded to vociferously assert the Haqq of Tauheed and to clarify that all else besides the Tauheed of Islam is falsehood. Thus, the Qur’aan commands:

“Say (O Muhammad!) Verily it has been revealed to me that most certainly your God is only One God. What, will you (not) become Muslimoon?”(Al-Ambiya, Aayat 108)

When the kuffaar rejected Tauheed and spread their brand of ‘Islamophobia’, Hadhrat Ibraaheem (alayhis salaam) did not seek to reconcile with the unbelievers in a joint-program of propagation which elevates the false religion of idolatry to the status of Islam. He did not seek an inter-faith seminar or dialogue with the kuffaar to gain recognition either for him or for even Tauheed. Islam had to be accepted on its own merits, not by way of striking up a common platform which promotes concepts and ideologies which are the very antithesis of Tauheed.

In contrast to the attitude of the Muslim purveyors of inter-faith seminars, Nabi Ibraaheem (alayhis salaam) embarked on the destruction of kufr by physically destroying the idols of worship thereby courting the wrath of the idolaters. He did not listen to the kufr preaching of the unbelievers.
On the contrary, the Qur’aan Majeed says with regard to Hadhrat Ibraaheem’s uncompromising proclamation of Tauheed: “He (Ibraaheem) said: Verily, you and your forefathers had (always) been in manifest deviation.’ They (the unbelievers) said (in response): ‘Have you come to us with the Truth or are you among those who amuse.’ He (Ibraaheem) said: ‘Assuredly, your Rabb is the Rabb of the heavens and the earth, The One Who has created them, and I am among those who testify to this. By Allah! I shall make a plan with your idols after you have taken leave.’ Then, he smashed them (the idols) into bits…….” (Al-Ambiya, Aayaat 54 – 58)


“He (Ibraaheem) said: ‘What, do you worship besides Allah things which cannot benefit you in any way whatsoever nor harm you. Fie on you and on those things you worship besides Allah. What! Have you no intelligence?” (Al-Ambiya, Aayaat 65 – 67)

This is the spirit and teaching of the Qur’aan when Tauheed is propagated. The Truth has to be administered unambiguously without according the slightest accommodation for the promotion of kufr as usually happens at inter-faith seminars and dialogue where Islam and false ideologies of kufr, shirk and atheism are all lumped together on the same platform in a collective effort of propagation, each exponent of baatil being allowed the opportunity to expound doctrines and exercises of spirituality which are abhorrent to Allah Azza Wa Jal.



http://books.themajlis.net/node/725
I am not sure if I understand your position on "inter-faith dialogue" correctly after you have quoted from this article.
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:02 AM   #4
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TheMajlis.net is always a very good source of deeni Ilm.

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Old 10-08-2011, 12:15 PM   #5
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yes but what do you say about so called "interfaith events". My question is what happens in the real world when Muslims are invited to take part. Do the ulama refrain and allow some deviants to represent Islam or should they be there and place the opinion of Islam and Muslims in the correct perspective? What do you think?
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Old 10-08-2011, 05:44 PM   #6
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yes but what do you say about so called "interfaith events". My question is what happens in the real world when Muslims are invited to take part. Do the ulama refrain and allow some deviants to represent Islam or should they be there and place the opinion of Islam and Muslims in the correct perspective? What do you think?

yes, I think, it all depends on how the event is conducted and the way the Muslim represents the message of Islam in the forum. Maulana Sajjad Nomani also participated in inter faith programmes before in UK. Many other Ulema e haq do it .
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Old 10-08-2011, 08:28 PM   #7
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wrwb.

I request everyone to read the whole book over at the link provided, iA you'll find your answers.

Maulana Sajjad Noamani Saheb db is without a doubt among the Ulema e Huqq & he must have done a great job at such events.

There are many events denouncing terrorism where the Ulema are invited to speak by the non-muslims (but obviously), I don't think these events can be categorized as inter faith dialogues.

Its mainly those events which are conducted / organized mainly to show the 'unity' between people of different faiths (show of unity).

Actually, even under the garb of an 'anti-terrorism' conferences, the ideas of kufr have been put forward.

But I think its better you read the content of those links first.
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Old 10-08-2011, 08:40 PM   #8
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yes, I think, it all depends on how the event is conducted and the way the Muslim represents the message of Islam in the forum. Maulana Sajjad Nomani also participated in inter faith programmes before in UK. Many other Ulema e haq do it .
In light of what you are saying it seems that the Majlis article is too generalised and only has the benefit of drawing our attention to the dangers of such events of which there can be no doubt. What you are saying is that we can as Muslims turn such events into opportunities for da'wah. I dont advocate dialogue. Only da'wah. The distinction being that dialogue takes place between equals whereas da'wah is the call of those who have something superior to those who dont.
What do you think? Am I mistaken?
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:47 AM   #9
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Interesting article i do wonder why certain Islamic speakers call Judaism and Christianity ''Abrahamic'' ''Abrahamic Religions'' while we all know that Abraham was not a Jew nor was he a Christian.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:08 PM   #10
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  1. THE INTER-FAITH TRAP OF KUFR. Deception Of Iblees
  2. THE STORY OF BARSEESAH
  3. THE MISSION OF THE AMBIYA
  4. INTER-FAITH DIALOGUE
  5. ISLAMOPHOBIA
  6. THE QUR’AANIC THEME
  7. INTER-FAITH SEMINAR IS NOT A DEBATE
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Old 10-10-2011, 12:21 AM   #11
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Do you find these articles useful? Do they provide guidelines for real situations that Muslims and Muslim communities are faced with?
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Old 10-10-2011, 02:33 AM   #12
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Do you find these articles useful? Do they provide guidelines for real situations that Muslims and Muslim communities are faced with?
Yes, I do.
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Old 10-10-2011, 12:47 PM   #13
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Maulana Ashraf has made a very good point but maulana Ashraf dockrat saab very few of our muslim personalities go about interfaith in the way you mentioned. They usually seem to never invite the non-muslims to islam but seem to do things without any objective except money and appeasing the kuffar. I have seen many of these interfaith guys and they would make the other fellow feel good about his kufr. That is how they talk so I can understand why the majlis is being harsh. Another point is that only very solid ulema should take part in this. It is not everybody's cup of tea and takes a lot of wisdom.
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:36 PM   #14
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One recent example of such inter faith 'dialogue' is the by Tahir ul Qadri, later in the day I'll write more about this.
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:47 AM   #15
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One recent example of such inter faith 'dialogue' is the by Tahir ul Qadri, later in the day I'll write more about this.
Dear Brother

I agree fully with what you are saying. The point I am making is the rhetoric of the likes of the author of these Majlis articles gives people like Tahir al Qadri more reason and support to engage with non Muslims in the way they do. We need to look at our own akaabirin and take lesson from the way they interacted with people of other faiths and even others who claimed to be Muslims and then set for ourselves some principles and a_da_b we should follow when interacting with people of other faiths.
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