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Old 08-26-2011, 02:15 PM   #1
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Default Need Reference for Hadith quoted by Tabligi Brothers?
Assalaam, (mine intention is just to collect this references as it is sometimes opposed by ignorants)

1.Those who pass away with imaan even equal to mustard seed will get jannah which is 10 times big than this world?

2. Some Sahabi (razi) on demise of Hazrat fatima (razi) addressed to her grave " do you know who is coming under you,the grave replied i dont see the relation but the deeds of the person coming in"

3.Musa (A.s) asked ALLAH what should i get while on calling your slaves to you.ALLAH said on every words the reward of 1 years nafil ibadah.

4.The story of slave of Firoun who has 3 child from firoun,accepted Imaan on call of musa (a.s),Firoun put her & her`s child to death by putting them in hot oil. She was buried with her child together near Egypt.Prophet (swallalahu wa alayhiwassallam) smelled fragrance from her grave while his (swallalahu wa alayhiwassallam) journey to heaven (miraj night)..
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Old 08-26-2011, 03:04 PM   #2
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Assalaam, (mine intention is just to collect this references as it is sometimes opposed by ignorants)

1.Those who pass away with imaan even equal to mustard seed will get jannah which is 10 times big than this world?
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:49 PM   #3
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last person going to the Paradise has been promised to be given a Paradise ten times bigger than this world.

Need reference for this statement in hadith..
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:53 PM   #4
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Assalaam, (mine intention is just to collect this references as it is sometimes opposed by ignorants)

1.Those who pass away with imaan even equal to mustard seed will get jannah which is 10 times big than this world?

2. Some Sahabi (razi) on demise of Hazrat fatima (razi) addressed to her grave " do you know who is coming under you,the grave replied i dont see the relation but the deeds of the person coming in"

3.Musa (A.s) asked ALLAH what should i get while on calling your slaves to you.ALLAH said on every words the reward of 1 years nafil ibadah.

4.The story of slave of Firoun who has 3 child from firoun,accepted Imaan on call of musa (a.s),Firoun put her & her`s child to death by putting them in hot oil. She was buried with her child together near Egypt.Prophet (swallalahu wa alayhiwassallam) smelled fragrance from her grave while his (swallalahu wa alayhiwassallam) journey to heaven (miraj night)..
1- There is a hadeeth about eventually taking out from hell anyone with iman equal to a mustard seed, narrated in Saheeh Muslim. (1/172 Arabic, Kitaab Al Iman). Im not sure if this is the one you are referring to. I couldnt find one with this and being ten times bigger than this world and this in the same hadeeth. But other hadeeths mention this, as in Saheeh Muslim 1-178, which says something similar about leaving hell and enterring jannah, but the word mustard seed is not used, but another word that also indicates something very small.

2- Couldnt find it.

3- Couldnt find it.

4- Narrated by Ahmad in his Musnad 1-309-310 , and Abu Ya'aa p 4 no 2517, and Al tabarani in "Al Kabeer", and Al Bazzar, Al Baihaqi, and Al Haakom. Al Haakom said "Its Isnaad is Saheeh" and Al Dhahabi agreed with the same. AL Suyoti said its Isnaad is saheeh. Ibn Katheer said its sanad is "La ba'sa bihi" (meaning its "ok", reasonable, not bad etc)

Shiekh Abu Ishaaq Al Huwaini mentioned all this and then comments "and all of this is "feehi Nadhar" (should be considered for revision)..

Then he said this is because "Ataa' Ibn Al Saa'ib would mix between hadeeths (Ikhtalata), and Hammad Ibn Salamah as well is one whos hadeeth was narrated before he'd mix hadeeths and after. Therefore it is hard to determine his hadeeths so we must stop (and not take from him).

Then he adds the comment of Al Aqeeli Rahumahu Allah in his book Al Dhuafaa' about Ataa' Ibn Saa'eb, and (al aqeeli) mentions the narrations about "mixing" (ikhtilaat) , and what Ali Ibn Al Madeen said about this, and also about Hammad Ibn Salamah.

Also Ibn Hajar learned to what was said by Al Aqeeli and accepted it. ( In Al Tahdheeb 7-206-207).

The hadeeth has another similar narration (shaahid) but it is weak and has a Mudallis in its chain, and someone whos narration is considered weak.

Therefore this hadeeth cannot be considered saheeh.

All of the above is what was said about it by Shiekh Al Huwaini.

Al Albani also classed the hadeeth as weak in Dhaeef Al Jaami' 4772. Shiekh Abdulrahman Al Suhaim said that Al Haythami also mentioned the "mixing" (im not sure about the right translation for the word, ikhtalat), of Ataa' Ibn Saa'eb, and that its weak.

Ahmad Shakir considered it saheeh. Al Arna'oot said its isnaad is hasan and that some Imams said Hammad heard from Ataa' before "mixing".

I dont know but this is info I found.

As for the other two if you could find the exact wording, or even better wording in Arabic insha'Allah it would be easier to look up or ask about.

Wallahu A'lam.
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Old 08-26-2011, 05:03 PM   #5
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last person going to the Paradise has been promised to be given a Paradise ten times bigger than this world.

Need reference for this statement in hadith..
This is in Bukhari 6202 and Muslim 186. It doesnt mention anything about Iman equal to a mustard seed. The one that does is in Al Bukhari 6192, and Muslim 184, but it doesnt mention anything about ten times better or bigger than this world- its a different hadeeth.

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Old 08-27-2011, 07:38 PM   #6
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wr wb.

I think I have the book that may help answer the brother's queries. You will find that the book is a blessing to the Tablighi's.
I'm quite busy now, so watch this thread in a couple of days.
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Old 09-11-2011, 04:55 AM   #7
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wr wb.

I think I have the book that may help answer the brother's queries. You will find that the book is a blessing to the Tablighi's.
I'm quite busy now, so watch this thread in a couple of days.
So, Janab Aftab Saheb, watch this thread for the answers, you may just find it....

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Old 10-05-2011, 10:21 PM   #8
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So, Janab Aftab Saheb, watch this thread for the answers, you may just find it....


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I could not find the book please help..aftab.siddiqui08@gmail.com
where`s the book or the website to download
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Old 10-05-2011, 10:55 PM   #9
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Salam Aleykum,

I have doubts over Hadith #2 and #3... (especially #2 I've never came across anything like this).
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:03 AM   #10
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I could not find the book please help..aftab.siddiqui08@gmail.com
where`s the book or the website to download
the title of the book is 'tablighi usool'
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Old 10-06-2011, 02:58 PM   #11
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the title of the book is 'tablighi usool'
I m bit wondering with name as it says the book is about the rules of tabligh,does it has the references of the many hadith & story which tabligi brothers used to say in gast,& muzakra..(some of hadith & story had asked in the first post)?
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Old 10-07-2011, 02:38 AM   #12
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I m bit wondering with name as it says the book is about the rules of tabligh,does it has the references of the many hadith & story which tabligi brothers used to say in gast,& muzakra..(some of hadith & story had asked in the first post)?

wrwb, bro, buy these 2 books for now: 1. tablighi usool 2. tabligh bil yakheen kaare nabuvvat

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