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Old 05-05-2011, 02:43 AM   #21
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Starting of puberty for girls at the age if 9 years is normal. Normal standard is anywhere from as early as 9 years to as late as 16 years. There is term 'Precocious Puberty' is used for girls whose puberty start earlier than normal. The standard for this is 8 years and below. Modern Medicine accepts the starting of puberty from age of 9 as normal.
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Old 05-05-2011, 02:49 AM   #22
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I am unable to open the link on the first page, can someone help out?
Here is the link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/40085041/T...as-a-Pedophile

Its a very good book. It mentions the average age of girls getting married at that time from all parts of the world. The marriage between the Prophet and Aisha was not an exception when one takes the age into to consideration for that era. It was perfectly a normal one.
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Old 05-05-2011, 03:58 AM   #23
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It is not befitting to say that since Allah knew the future, he shouldn't have let such a marriage. No doubt, Allah knows the future, yet Allah doesn't need anyone to become Muslim so to act accordingly, and if He wanted to, then He could have made entire humanity accept Islam. Let's look what the Qur'an had to say:

"Even if there was a Qur’an which moved mountains, or split the earth open or spoke to the dead . . .! On the contrary! The affair is Allah’s altogether. Do those who have iman not know that (أَفَلَمْ يَيْأَسِ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا أَن لَّوْ يَشَاءُ اللَّـهُ لَهَدَى النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا) if Allah had wanted to He could have guided all mankind? Those who are kafir will not cease to be struck by disaster for what they have done – or a disaster will happen close to their homes – until Allah’s promise is fulfilled. Allah will not fail to keep His promise." (Qur'an, 13:31)

As Mawlana mentioned, the age of Ayesha (r.anha) provided many important fiqh/juristic rulings - which we wouldn't have known otherwise.

Judging the behavior of our Prophet (s.a.w) based on modern misconceptions is not befitting either. People in the future can come up with all kind of rubbish such as "beard is harmful", "miswak is detrimental", "milk and honey are extremely dangerous to consume" etc. Based on these, it would be illogical to say, Allah knew the future, He shouldn't have created the milk, honey and miswak in the first place, so that today we wouldn't have these controversial issues that keep people away from Islam. We are obliged to convey the message of Islam and try to remove any misconceptions that people have; accepting it or not is up to them and guidance is in the hands of Allah.
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Old 05-05-2011, 04:43 AM   #24
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Here is the link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/40085041/T...as-a-Pedophile

Its a very good book. It mentions the average age of girls getting married at that time from all parts of the world. The marriage between the Prophet and Aisha was not an exception when one takes the age into to consideration for that era. It was perfectly a normal one.
It's a good book (although non-muslims, more specifically atheists would not care about the cultural relativism).
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Old 05-05-2011, 04:58 AM   #25
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It's a good book (although non-muslims, more specifically atheists would not care about the cultural relativism).


It is of no consequence whether non-Muslims like Rasoolullah for marrying 'Aisha at 6 and consummating at 9. There are many other reasons they do not like Rasoolullah , such as warfare. After all, Islam is the only religion that is balanced on warfare and as soon as any religion legitimizes any fighting, even if it is just, the non-Muslim bandwagon starts yelling bloody murder and attacks our deen and our nabi , referring to both as bloodthirsty and violent naoudhubillah.
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Old 05-05-2011, 05:41 AM   #26
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It is of no consequence whether non-Muslims like Rasoolullah for marrying 'Aisha at 6 and consummating at 9. There are many other reasons they do not like Rasoolullah , such as warfare. After all, Islam is the only religion that is balanced on warfare and as soon as any religion legitimizes any fighting, even if it is just, the non-Muslim bandwagon starts yelling bloody murder and attacks our deen and our nabi , referring to both as bloodthirsty and violent naoudhubillah.
What warfare do you speak of? Surely they can't be fussed about self-defence?
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:42 AM   #27
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What warfare do you speak of? Surely they can't be fussed about self-defence?


Well, it is all the rage these days to attack Islam as being a violent religion and then twist and abuse the seerah of Rasoolullah and Qur'an Kareem to "prove" the argument. Many anti-Islam "pundits" claim they are all for Muslims but they are against Islam because they perceive it to be a violent religion. This is why you see such strong opposition to bringing Islam out of people's houses in the West, with any sort of "Islamicization" seen as an affront to democracy, safety, and rationality.
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Old 05-05-2011, 01:23 PM   #28
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It's a good book (although non-muslims, more specifically atheists would not care about the cultural relativism).


Remember Bani Israel? They were with Musa (as) when the water parted. They saw the miracle with their own eyes. They knew they were in the right path. But they chose to Disbelieve later, even after knowing the truth.

Some people are so prejudiced they will not believe even if they are convinced. They keep on arguing. Nothing we can do about it. All we can do is continue Dawah, show them the truth.

P.s. I can understand why you are looking at a non-believers perspective to such queries. So we can give more efficient Dawah. But be careful, don't let it mess your head too much, Shaytans whispers are discreet and powerful. May Allah protect our Imaan and help us be steadfast. Ameen.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:54 PM   #29
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[QUOTE=verdana;603851]The marriage of Prophet (s.a.w) to Aysha (r.anha) was decreed by Allah through inspirational dreams that the prophet saw. The dreams of the prophets are wahy', and wahy' is a divine command, similar to the command given to prophet Ibrahim (a.s) to slaughter his son Ismail (a.s). The fact that Aysha (r.anha) was young with a brilliant inquisitive mind and powerful memory, to later on convey all what she'd learned from her noble husband (s.a.w) in general, and in particular his intimate relations and behaviors within household, are to be count among some wisdom of this marriage.
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where is the evidence that Allah divinely revealed ayesha radiyallahu anha should be married to teh prophet SAW as this is by far the strongest reason for the acceptance of the marriage
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Old 10-07-2011, 12:10 AM   #30
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The marriage of Prophet (s.a.w) to Aysha (r.anha) was decreed by Allah through inspirational dreams that the prophet saw. The dreams of the prophets are wahy', and wahy' is a divine command, similar to the command given to prophet Ibrahim (a.s) to slaughter his son Ismail (a.s). The fact that Aysha (r.anha) was young with a brilliant inquisitive mind and powerful memory, to later on convey all what she'd learned from her noble husband (s.a.w) in general, and in particular his intimate relations and behaviors within household, are to be count among some wisdom of this marriage.
where is the evidence that Allah divinely revealed ayesha radiyallahu anha should be married to teh prophet SAW as this is by far the strongest reason for the acceptance of the marriage


حَدَّثَنَا خَلَفُ بْنُ هِشَامٍ وَأَبُو الرَّبِيعِ جَمِيعًا عَنْ حَمَّادِ بْنِ زَيْدٍ - وَاللَّفْظُ لأَبِى الرَّبِيعِ - حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادٌ حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامٌ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنْ عَائِشَةَ أَنَّهَا قَالَتْ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم أُرِيتُكِ فِى الْمَنَامِ ثَلاَثَ لَيَالٍ جَاءَنِى بِكِ الْمَلَكُ فِى سَرَقَةٍ مِنْ حَرِيرٍ فَيَقُولُ هَذِهِ امْرَأَتُكَ . فَأَكْشِفُ عَنْ وَجْهِكِ فَإِذَا أَنْتِ هِىَ فَأَقُولُ إِنْ يَكُ هَذَا مِنْ عِنْدِ اللَّهِ يُمْضِهِ
Her Marriage with the prophet was a Wahi (Divine Revelation). She (r.anha), herself relates from the Prophet , ‘He said, "I saw you in dreams three times. The angel brought you to me and you were clad in white silk. He (the angel) said that it was your consort and he (angel) showed me by opening your face. You are just like that…"

(Sahih Muslim)
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