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Old 03-19-2010, 08:02 PM   #1
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Default Khulafa of Maulana Hussain Ahmad Madani (rah)


Does anyone know of the living Khulafa of Maulana Hussain Ahmad Madani (rah) and also about incidents and stories/ malfoozat of the ones who have passed away?

Shaykh Hussain Ahmad Madani (rah) was one of the most spiritual and roohani people. I just read a bit of Malfoozat-e-Basheeriya. The Malfooz of Khwaja Basheer Ahmad (rah) a khalifa of Shaykh Hussain Ahmad Madani (rah) and it knocked me out of my seat. Subhanallah.

Will try to post some from the book for the benefit of everyone. Its in Tamil and I can't read it on my own.

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khulafa list of Shaikh ul Islam Hazrat Maulana Hussain Ahmed sahab Madani


From the book- ' Roznamah Al Jamiat ' - shaikh ul Islam number, Published by Jamiat Ulema e Hind, Delhi. 1st publication-15 feb,1957; 2nd Publication- 10th July, 1998.

The list happens to be very authentic as it is endorsed in the end by Hazrat Maulana Qari Asghar Ali sahab (rah) Khalifa and confidante of Hazrat Shaikh ul Islam (rah),Darul uloom Deoband. The book was published under the guardianship of Ameer ul Hind Hazrat Maulana Syed Asad Madani sahab ; President Jamiat Ulema e Hind.

Page 15- 17.

Eastern Pakistan ( now Bangladesh) -


Zila Sylhet. -

1. Hazrat Maulana Takhlees Hussain sahab , Sayyedpur.

2 Hazrat haji Abdul bari sahab , Jhandagami.

3.Hazrat haji Abroo Miyan sahab , Talbadi

4. Hazrat Maulana Basheer Ahmed sahab , bagha

5. Hazrat Maulana Muqaddas Ali sahab , Mohalla Shaikh

6. Hazrat Maulana Syed Abdul Khaliq sahab , Sayyedpur.

7. Hazrat Dr. Ali Asghar sahab , gafargaon

8. Hazrat Maulana Jeeb ur Rahman sahab, raipur

9. Hazrat Sulaiman Khan sahab Malvi bazari

10. Hazrat Maulana Abdur Raheem sahab, Chatipada

11. Hazrat Maulana Mujahid Ali sahab , Gangajal

12. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Mateen sahab Chaudhry , Phoolbadi

13. Hazrat Maulana Abdur Rahman sahab, dholya

14.Hazrat Maulana Tajammul Ali sahab, Angoora Muhammed pur

15. Hazrat Maulana Ala'ud-din sahab , Banya chang.

16. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Mannan sahab ,authalya

17. Hazrat Maulana Abdul lateef sahab maulvi bazari, malihori

18. Hazrat Maulana Siraj ul Haq sahab, Purangaon.

19. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Khaliq sahab, ghazi nagar

20. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Mu'min sahab, purangaon

21. Hazrat Maulana Younus Ali sahab , raigad

22. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Mannan sahab, gatoi

23. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Ghaffar sahab , mamrad khali ( post. Munshipada)

24. Hazrat Maulana Muhammed Ali sahab, Balrampur

25. Hazrat Maulana Riyaz ur Rabb sahab, Dhaka dakhan

26. Hazrat Maulana Muhammed Ismail sahab, chotkhai

27. Hazrat Maulana Hassan Ali sahab, gortan ghat

28. Hazrat Maulana Lutf ur-Rahman sahab, hamid nagar

29. Hazrat Maulana Hafiz Abdul kareem sahab, Islamabad

30. Hazrat Maulana Badr e Alam sahab, Mughal bazaar Madrassa



Zila Chatgam


31. Hazrat Maulana Masood ul Haq sahab , patya, shaikhul hadees, madrassa Mazahir uloom post sadr chatgam town.

32. Hazrat Maulana Mufti Ahmed ul Haq sahab , Madrassa Miun ul Islam, Post. Bat hazari.

33. Hazrat Maulana Abdus Sattar sahab, Fatahpur

34. Hazrat Maulana Ahmed Shafi sahab, Madrassa Muin ul Islam

35. Hazrat Maulana Obaid ur-Rahman sahab, Imam nagar

36.Hazrat Maulana Abur Rahman sahab, Ghachchi

37. Hazrat Maulana Muhammed Nauman sahab, andhar parah

38. Hazrat Maulana Muhammed Idrees sahab (alias) Iman ali sahab, sarang santosh pur.

39. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Haleem sahab, Peer khn.


Zila Babna -

40. Hazrat Maulana Shams ud-din sahab (alias) wakeel, badi ganchan nagar


Zila Nawa khali -

41. Hazrat Maulana Abdul ghani sahab, Howell senior Madrassa .

42. Hazrat Maulana Raihan ud-din sahab, Faridpur

43. Hazrat Maulana Dilawar Hussain sahab chandpuri , Feni

44. Hazrat Maulana Azeez ul Haq sahab , Adeel pur


Zila padah -

45. Hazrat Maulana Kaleem Ullah sahab, Madrassa Afsar ul Uloom nagalkat

46. Hazrat Maulana Muhib ur-Rahman sahab, Fenawa

47. Haarat Maulana Ali Ashraf sahab , Sairam pur.


Dhaka -

48. Hazrat Maulana Ameen ul Haq sahab memon sanghi , Jamiya Qur'aniya , Mohalla Lal Bagh


Zila Baqer ganj -

49. Hazrat Maulana Muhammed Younus Sahab Baqer ganji, char khaleefa, post. Radha bab.

50. Hazrat Hafiz Tayyab Ali sahab.


Assam

Zila Kach’had -

51. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Wajid Sahab ; Mulla gram, Post. Mubeena.

52. Hazrat Maulana Syed Ali Ali sahab; Imam masjid dargah badshii, Post. Khana Kareem ganj.

53. Hazrat Maulana Muqaddas Ali sahab; boti bail, Post. Ghaniya gram.

54. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Jaleel sahab; Shaikh ul Hadees Darul uloom Badarpur.

55. Hazrat Maulana Masdar Ali sahab; Darul uloom BanasKandi.

56. Hazrat Maulana Basharat Ali sahab; Darul Uloom Banaskandi.

57. Hazrat Maulana Ahmed Ali sahab Badarpuri; Shaikh ul Hadees, Darul uloom Banaskandi.

58. Hazrat Maulana Maqbool Ali sahab ; Banaskandi.

59. Hazrat Master Ahmed Ali sahab; Banaskandi.

60. Hazrat Maulana Muin ud-din sahab; Madrassa Darul uloom Banaskandi.

61. Hazrat Maulana Jawwad Ali sahab; Madrassa Darul Uloom Banaskandi.

62. Hazrat Hurmuz Ali sahab ; Tarapur, Post. Topkhana salchar.

63. Hazrat Hafiz Muhammed Mustaqeem sahab; Banaskandi.

64. Hazrat Hafiz Mukarram Ali sahab; Banaskandi.

65. Hazrat Maulana Muhamed Ismail sahab; Jalalpur, Post. Sirriguri.

66. Hazrat Hafiz Shafiq ur-Rahman sahab; Banaskandi.

67. Hazrat Maulana Qari Abdul Mutahhir sahab ; Bhagadar,Post. Beer niga salchar.

68. Hazrat Maulana Qari Abdus Samad sahab; Boti Bail, Post. Ghaiz gram.

69. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Musawwir sahab ;Darul Hadees Badarpur, Mahaqal,Post. Bhanga Bazaar.

70. Hazrat Maulana Mu’tasim Ali sahab; Muhammedpur, Post. Dakhan rangpur, south lala.

71. Hazrat Maulana Zafar Ali sahab; Madrassa Islamiyya ,Angapur, Post. Angapur Bazaar.

72. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Haq sahab; Muhammedpur, Post. Dakhan rangpur, south lala.

73. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Haq sahab Asim ganji; Saatghadi, Post. Mohanya.

74. Hazrat Hafiz Abdul Noor sahab Kareem ganji; Gandar najani , Post. Badi Gram.

75.Hazrat Maulana Jalal ud-din sahab sonatoli ; Khodra kandi, Post. Kali ganj Bazaar.

76. Hazrat Hafiz Abdur Raheem sahab; Mulla Gram, Post. Mohanya.

77. Hazrat Muhammed Najabat Ali sahab; khadra kandi, Post . Kali ganj Bazaar.

78. Hazrat Haji Abdul Malik sahab ; Badshii, Post. Kareem ganj.

79. Hazrat Haji Shams ul Haq sahab ; Badshii, Post. Kareem ganj.

80. Hazrat Haji Muhabbat Ali sahab; Sonabhari Ghat.

81. Hazrat Maulana Raheem ud-din sahab ; Imam Masjid Jamiya, Banaskandi.

82. Hazrat Maulana Muhsin Ali sahab ; Madrassa Darul uloom Banaskandi.

83. Hazrat Farman Ali sahab; Banaskandi.

84. Hazrat Maulana Asdar Ali sahab; Rupayee Bali.

85. Hazrat Maulana Abdur Razzaq sahab ; Algapur.

86. Hazrat Munzir Ali sahab ; Tarapur.

87. Hazrat Amanullah sahab Kareem ganji ; Shomdi kandi , Post. Washer Bazaar.

88. Hazrat Maulana Kareem ud-din sahab Banaskandi.

89. Hazrat Maulana Saeed Ahmed sahab; Rangpura, Post. Dakhan rangpura south lala.

90. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Bari sahab; Naytai Nagar, Post. Naytai nagar bazaar.
Zila Naugaon

91. Hazrat Maulana Muhammed Is’haq sahab ; Madrassa Arabiyya Islamiyya , Masjid Dhakai patti , gadihari, Post Do-gaon.
Zila Gowalpura

92. Hazrat Maulana Zameer ud-din sahab ; Government High school , Dhobari.


Bihar. -

Patna.-

93. Hazrat Maulana Hafiz Abdur Rahman sahab ; Madrassa Shams ul Huda,


Zila Bhagalpur-


94. Hazrat Athar Hussain sahab; Purain, Post. Bonsi.

95. Hazrat Haji Muhamed Ayyub sahab; chulmul, Post. Bara bat.

96. Hazrat Khaleel ur-Rahman sahab, Chulmul, Post. Bara bat.

97. Hazrat Maulana Muhamed Yaqoub sahab; Babura, Post. Sanhola bat.

98. Hazrat Ashraf Ali sahab ; Azmatpur, Post. Narayanpur.

99. Hazrat Abdur Rahman sahab; Azmatpur, Post. Narayanpur.

100. Hazrat Haji Mazhar ul Haq, Samarya, Post Narayanpur.

101. Hazrat Maulana Muhamed Anwar sahab; Kaytha tekar, Post. Kopla parsa.

102. Hazrat Hakeem Fida Hussain sahab, Samarya.

103. Hazrat Maulana Abdus salam sahab ; Korodiha, Post. Purnayy.

104. Hazrat Haji Ahmed Hussain sahab sanholi , Post. Purnayy.

105. Hazrat Maulana Qari Fakhr ud-din sahab , Jamiya Qasimiyya , Shargaya.


Zila Gaya.


106. Hazrat Maulana Naheeha Hassan sahab ; kodmari, Post. Panjranwal.

107. Hazrat Haji Minhaj ud-din sahab; tambaku merchant , Dhami tola , Shahar Gaya.


Zila Saran -

108. Hazrat Maulana Abdullah sahab Chaprawi ; manjha state.

Zila Darbhanga -

109. Hazrat Haji Muhammed Aqil sahab ; Haya ghat, Bilaspur.

110. Hazrat Maulana Muhammed Azhar sahab; Rathos.

Zila Saharsa-

111. Hazrat Maulana Abdur Rasheed sahab ; Mubarakpur, Post. Salkhawa bazaar.

Munger-

112. Hazrat Qari Mahdi Bukhari sahab; Madrassa Tajweed ul Qur’an , Jam’e Masjid Munger.

Zila Purnia-

113. Hazrat Maulana Idrees sahab ; Naukatta, Post. Ghana Islampur.


Zila Hazaribagh-

114. Hazrat Maulana Azhar sahab , Aurangabad, zila gaya, resident- Barwadiah garadia.


Uttar Pradesh (U.P) -

Zila Faizabad -


115. Hazrat Maulana Nayeemullah sahab ; Bholepur, Post. Hansur.

116. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Jabbar sahab ; Hansur.

117. Hazrat Maulana Hafiz Muhammed Tayyab sahab (nabeena/blind), qasba bhadarsah, Mohalla Amna bibi ka ihata.

118. Hazrat Maulana Faizullah sahab Gondwi; Madrassa Ahmadiiya Mughalpura.

Zila Lucknow -

119. Hazrat Maulana Idrees sahab , Ustad - Nawatul Ulema, qasba nagram.


Zila Muzaffarnagar -

120. Hazrat Maulana Muhammed Younus sahab ; qasba Baghara.

121. Hazrat Hafiz Abdul lateef sahab; Imam Jam’e Masjid , Ghadi Nachta.

Zila Ghazipur -

122. Hazrat Hakeem Muhammed Sulaiman sahab ; nauli.


Zila Saharanpur -

123. Hazrat Maulana Qari Asghar Ali sahab Sanhaspuri ; Madani Manzil, Darul uloom Deoband.
124. Hazrat Maulana Syed Mahmood Hassan sahab , Pathatbartha kaisth, (alais) patheet kalaan.


Zila Basti -

125. Hazrat Maulana Hidayat Ali sahab ; Madrassa Hidayat ul muslimeen, karhi, Post Doodhara.
126. Hazrat Maulana Qutubullah Sahab ; Jhakiya, Post. Falazkot sari.

Zila Bijnor -

127. Hazrat Maulana Syed Muhammed Ahmed sahab , Nageena.

Bijnor city-

128. Hazrat Maulana Azeez ur-Rahman sahab; Mohtamim Yateem khana.
129.Hazrat Maulana Syed Ahmed Shah sahab Muradabadi , inter college.


Zila Azamgarh-

130. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Hayy sahab ; Anjan shaheed.

131. Hazrat Maulana Sifaat ullah sahab ; Mohalla Balaqi pura, Maunath bhanjan.

132. Hazrat Maulana Mushtaq Ahmed sahab; Madrassa Darul uloom , Qazi damunpura , Maunath bhanjan.


Zila Allahabad-

133. Hazrat Haji Muhammed Ahmed sahab; qasba mahgaon.


Kanpur -

134. Hazrat Kareem bakhsh sahab azad; next to Akbar hussain’s shop, Chapayi wali gali, karnel ganj.


Zila Muradabad-

135. Hazrat Maulana Muhammed Ismail sahab Sambhli, Mudarris Madrassa chilla, Amroha.

136. Hazrat Maulana Mahmood Ahmed sahab ; Jami Masjid , Hasanpur.


West Bengal -


Zila Bardwan -

137. Hazrat Maulana Ahmedullah sahab; Baranpur Muslim High school, Post. Baranpur.

138. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Khaliq sahab; Shantibagh, Post sheru rai.

139. Hazrat Ghulam Muhiy ud-din sahab ; Rahmat nagar, Post. Baranpur.

140. Hazrat Maulana Abdullah sahab ; Quarter line, Baranpur.

Calcutta-

141. Hazrat Maulana Muhammed Tahir sahab, Kareem ganji; Madrassa Aaliya, Calcutta.


Madhya Pradesh (M.P) -

142. Hazrat Hafiz Abdul Lateef sahab (Nabeena/blind) ; Madrassa Arabiyya Islamiyya, Baijnath para, Zila Raipur.

Madras state ( Tamil Nadu)-

143. Hazrat Janaab C. Basheer Ahmed sahab; , Muhammed Raza Street, Pernambut, Zila - Northern Arcott

144. Hazrat Maulana Shaikh Hassan sahab Malabari , Shaikh ul Hadees, Madrassa Baqiyat us Swalihat,dewar; Zila Northern Arcott.


Eastern Punjab-

Zila Gudgaon-

145. Hazrat Maulana Niyaz Muhammed sahab ; Madrassa Arabiyya Islamiyya, qasba Nooh.

146. Hazrat Maulana Jameel Ahmed sahab (alias) Maulana Niyaz Muhammed sahab, qasba Nooh.

147. Hazrat Miyanji Muhammed Ramzan sahab ; Malib.


Delhi -

148. Hazrat Janab Munshi Allah datta sahab ; Tableeghi Markaz Nizamuddin, New Delhi.

149. Hazrat Qari Abdul Shukoor sahab sahnaspuri, Imam Hauz wali Masjid, Nayi sadak,Delhi.


Western Pakistan -

Zila Multan -

150. Hazrat Maulana Khursheed Ahmed sahab ; Qasba Abdul Hakeem.


Zila Lahore-

151. Hazrat Maulana Hamid Miyan sahab Deobandi; Jamiya Madaniya, Raavi road.

152. Hazrat Maulana Hakeem Abdul hakeem sahab; Sulaimani Dawakhana , Faizbagh.


Zila Jhelum-

153. Hazrat Maulana Mazhar Hussain sahab; bheen Thel, Chakwal.

Bhawalpur-

154. Hazrat Maulana Rahmatullah sahab; Madrassa Arabiyya .


Zila Dera Ismail Khan-

155. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Khaliq sahab damani , Sherokanah, Post. Kalachi.


Bombay state ( now Maharashtra ) -

Zila Surat (now gujrat)

156. Hazrat Maulana Ahmed Buzurg sahab samlak; Post. Dhabel.

157. Hazrat Maulana Abdus Samad sahab Kachowi .

158. Hazrat Maulana Abdus Samad sahab ; Wankaner, Post. Bardoli.

Usmanabad Shahar (now in Maharashtra)-

159. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Ghafoor sahab; Quraishi Madrassa , Furqaniya.

160. Hazrat Syed Sulaiman Shah Qadri

Zila Usmanabad-

161. Hazrat Badi ud-din sahab

162. Hazrat Maulana Abdul Hakeem sahab

163. Hazrat Syed Talib Ali sahab ; Muhtamim Madrassa Misbah ul Uloom, Shastoor, Taluk Latur.

164.Hazrat Maulana Abdus Samad sahab; Shastur, Taluk – Umargah.


Burma-

165. Hazrat Maulana Muzaffar Ahmed sahab ; Menagzi, Post. Busedang, Zila Akayab.


South Africa-

166. Hazrat Maulana Bayazeed sahab shaheed ; Rustenburg, Transvall.

167. Sahabzada Muhtaram Hazrat Maulana Syed Asad sahab Madani.


Rahmatullahi alaihi ajmaen..and May Allah give long life with aafiya to those alive and spread thier benefit across continents..Ameen..

duas..

wa assalam..
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Old 10-04-2011, 02:51 AM   #4
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There are only a few remaining Khulafah of Hazrat Madani in Bangladesh (how times have changed....)

I think there are 4 but i know of 3; two in Sylhet and 1 in Chitagong.

Sylhet
Hazrat Moulana Abdul Mumin (Furangawr Huzur)
**Rare** Bangla Waz I Hazrat Moulana Abdul Mumin I Khalifah Hazrat Madani (1/4)
Hazrat Moulana Abdul Mannan (Gunoyr Sab) both reside in Hobigonj.

Chitagong - Shaikhul Hadith Hazrat Maulana Ahmad Shafi Sab - He is probably the most senior Scholar of Bangladesh. He recieved his khilafath upon graduation, SubhanAllah!
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Old 10-04-2011, 03:01 AM   #5
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There are only a few remaining Khulafah of Hazrat Madani in Bangladesh (how times have changed....)

I think there are 4 but i know of 3; two in Sylhet and 1 in Chitagong.

Sylhet
Hazrat Moulana Abdul Mumin (Furangawr Huzur)
**Rare** Bangla Waz I Hazrat Moulana Abdul Mumin I Khalifah Hazrat Madani (1/4)
Hazrat Moulana Abdul Mannan (Gunoyr Sab) both reside in Hobigonj.

Chitagong - Shaikhul Hadith Hazrat Maulana Ahmad Shafi Sab - He is probably the most senior Scholar of Bangladesh. He recieved his khilafath upon graduation, SubhanAllah!


Shaikh ul Hadith Hazrat Maulana Ahmed Shafi sahab db, is he still based in Madrassa Muin ul Islam..? Bangladesh recieved great faiz from Hazrat Shaikh ul islam sahab with 50 khulafa. im happy to know that some of them are alive.. May Allah give them a long life and spread thier benefit.. ameen..

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Old 10-04-2011, 03:04 AM   #6
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MashaAllah,i wish some learned brother write more about Hazrat Madani ra.Brother Ahlezikre has mentioned malfoozat written by Bashir Ahmad sb ra,Is it in book form or on the net?can you give me a clue Hazrat moulana Ahlezikre bhaijan?
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Just like the Shia Imams below Hassan Ibn Ali ra whose Imamat used to be limited to the boundaries of their homes, the imaginary "Caliphates" of Sufis are limited to their homes.
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Old 10-04-2011, 03:10 AM   #8
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Just like the Shia Imams below Hassan Ibn Ali ra , the imaginary "Caliphates" of Sufis are limited to their homes.
nobody asked ur opinion.. u may plz continue ur slander and foul mouthing elsewhre..
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Shaikh ul Hadith Hazrat Maulana Ahmed Shafi sahab db, is he still based in Madrassa Muin ul Islam..? Bangladesh recieved great faiz from Hazrat Shaikh ul islam sahab with 50 khulafa. im happy to know that some of them are alive.. May Allah give them a long life and spread thier benefit.. ameen..

wa assalam..
Ameen. Yes Hazrat Moulana Ahmad Shafi sab is still based in Moinul Islam, Chittagong. Bagladesh had more than 90 of Hazrat Madani's Khulafah as Assam was part of Bangladesh.
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nobody asked ur opinion.. u may plz continue ur slander and foul mouthing elsewhre..
It was not a slander at all. The whole of Muslim Ummah is living under some type of deviant tyrants. We all are slaves one way or the other and these imaginary "caliphs" are referred to as caliphs as if they have captured a piece of land from the Kufar and have established Shariah there. When has this word "caliph" been used in such imaginary self delusional ways?
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It was not a slander at all. The whole of Muslim Ummah is living under some type of deviant tyrants. We all are slaves one way or the other and these imaginary "caliphs" are referred to as caliphs as if they have captured a piece of land from the Kufar and have established Shariah there. When has this word "caliph" been used in such imaginary self delusional ways?


ur apology is long over due.. http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ustified/page6

plz do not derail the thread..

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It was not a slander at all. The whole of Muslim Ummah is living under some type of deviant tyrants. We all are slaves one way or the other and these imaginary "caliphs" are referred to as caliphs as if they have captured a piece of land from the Kufar and have established Shariah there. When has this word "caliph" been used in such imaginary self delusional ways?
You and I are also Khalifas

of Allah of course
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Old 10-04-2011, 01:46 PM   #13
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Salam

we are all the khalifahs of Adam (as) as ALLAH states near the beginning of surah baqarah.
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This word khalifa is used in sense of "Mazoon",that is the person who has permission to spread the teachings to others,that is why many people prefer the word "majaz" rather than Khalifa.Having said that i find nothing wrong in using this term.It simply means 'the one who sits on his shaikh,s place' after he is no more.Is there any shari objection to it?The objection would be if someone says this or that person has been entitled as khalifatul muslimeen,which is not the case here.And one brother pointed out very rightly that we are all khulufa of Allah swt on this earth through Adam A.S.(though most of us don,t even own a house of our own).
Every art or science has its own terminology.You doctors are called "maseeha", does it make you one?.Is every doctor really a 'christ-lke figure'?( i would say,in most cases they remind us of Pharoa and Qaroon rather than christ.)We get master,s degree in different subjects,do we really become masters?masters with no servants in most cases,may be !
Look at the real meaning brother,not just the term used.In reality no sufi khalifa think of himself as a khalifa in the sense you take it.It is a superficial objection coming from a learned person,the only reason i can think of is TA'ASSUB,which is known for sitting on neurons and blocking all logical thinking.
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This word khalifa is used in sense of "Mazoon",that is the person who has permission to spread the teachings to others,that is why many people prefer the word "majaz" rather than Khalifa.Having said that i find nothing wrong in using this term.It simply means 'the one who sits on his shaikh,s place' after he is no more.Is there any shari objection to it?The objection would be if someone says this or that person has been entitled as khalifatul muslimeen,which is not the case here.And one brother pointed out very rightly that we are all khulufa of Allah swt on this earth through Adam A.S.(though most of us don,t even own a house of our own).
Every art or science has its own terminology.You doctors are called "maseeha", does it make you one?.Is every doctor really a 'christ-lke figure'?( i would say,in most cases they remind us of Pharoa and Qaroon rather than christ.)We get master,s degree in different subjects,do we really become masters?masters with no servants in most cases,may be !
Look at the real meaning brother,not just the term used.In reality no sufi khalifa think of himself as a khalifa in the sense you take it.It is a superficial objection coming from a learned person,the only reason i can think of is TA'ASSUB,which is known for sitting on neurons and blocking all logical thinking.
There might be some Ta'ssub involved and i have tried to eliminate this Ta'ssub factor from my posts but i can't help it really. I think i am filled with love and hatred in equal amounts and i always express them under the influence of my religious biases. The specific issue i got with this terminology of "Khalifa of Fulaan fulaan" is that when the whole of the Muslim world is passing through an age of turbulence and slavery of all sorts ,some people refer to some people as "Khalifaa of Fulaan in Newyork , Khalifa of Fulaan in London" etc. The usage of the word Khalifa in seems ironic here. The word Khalifa is always associated with worldly rule. Can i be given an example of the usage of this word khalifa in this "metaphorical" sense from the Salaf or fuquha , muhaditheen ?
The word "Majaz" has logical absurdities as well. Why in Tasawwuf the teachings of a specific person have to continue ? Seems to be obsession with personalities. If there is any truth to this Khalifa and Majaz system , Ml Younas Jounpuri who theoretically happens to be the Khalifa of Ml Zakariyaa , has taken some very different stance regarding various issues than his Shaykh?
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Old 10-05-2011, 07:26 AM   #16
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MashaAllah,i wish some learned brother write more about Hazrat Madani ra.Brother Ahlezikre has mentioned malfoozat written by Bashir Ahmad sb ra,Is it in book form or on the net?can you give me a clue Hazrat moulana Ahlezikre bhaijan?
There are several Bangla books written on the life of Hazrat Hussain Ahmad Madani (RAH). If you live in Dhaka , you can easily buy those books from some selected bookshops. In English , you can find some books such as Prisoners of Malta and Composite Nationalism on some online bookshops.
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you are very right about both these points.This term khalifa is not used in salaf except for the real khalifa (which was basically a designation for worldly rule plus religious guidance),also world "majaz" does not mean that one should stricly follow his Shaikh in all respects.The second point contradicts your own stand that the issue is about personalities.If Ml jounpuri goes against the views of his shaikh in some or many issues,that is ample proof that it is not about personality obcession,so you are contradicting yourself here.My point is why take it in literal sense?Obviously a khalifa of a sufi is not Ameer ul mominin,no one has ever taken it that way,neither,in most cases,these poor sufi,s have any political aspirations or objectives in mind,it just happens that this term is in use,it portrays a specific meaning and has never caused any doubts in the minds of common man,why try to give it a meaning which it does not carry?.
Weather you like it or not,tassawuf is very much there along with its specific terminologies,just like any other field.You are well aware that in your own field,many terms are used,which according to your own text books are a "misnomer",neverthlesss,they are still in use and the experts in your field knows exactly what it means despite being labelled as a misnomer.No one objects to it because they are in common use and changing them would create further confusion.It is deemed sufficient to make the real meaning clear and keep the term as it is.Why should a professional like you ignore this fact?.
Actually your opposition to tassawuf springs from your gross misunderstanding of the subject coupled with a deeply prejudiced attitude,which stops you from reviewing your stance.Every logical arguement starts with the supposition that " i am right,but the others may have something right too,let us explore it".From your multiple posts on SF,i get the impression that you have become a "prisioner to your pre-conceived ideas",you have closed your mind tightly shut to any thing which you don,t want to consider worth a second thought.This attitude is unscientific to say the least,and if i may say so,an egoistic display of a stubern mind.If tasawwuf is not 100% right,your views too are not totally accurate.A real seeker would go for an extensive search into the subject,accept the truth and leave what he thinks is wrong.Total acceptence of one view and totally rejecting another,is over confidence in one,s abilities to judge.This kind of attitude is unacceptable from a scholar like you.
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