[Sttim]

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...-anger/245691/

Even she couldn't provide evidence of being raped, why still people insist on "honor" kill her?

Apparently her brother was killed
http://hrcpblog.wordpress.com/2010/0...0%99s-brother/

[Joircarm]

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...-anger/245691/

Even she couldn't provide evidence of being raped, why still people insist on "honor" kill her?

Apparently her brother was killed
http://hrcpblog.wordpress.com/2010/0...0%99s-brother/

This is an absolute disgrace by anyone standards and this practice should be stopped. It is inhuman

[KellyMP]

ASWW
This whole sh** makes me angry!!Very very angry!! and i have no idea on whom...

[JessiPollo]

i dont understand why an innocent victim of a very heinous crime is punished??? the victim should be given justice and revenge not punishment.

and even if a woman is consenting, where in islam does it stipulate that she is killed if she is not married? i thought the worse is being lashed and that it goes for both man and woman.

and also shouldnt there be four witnesses of the act anyway???

[HonjUopu]

How can one respond to this story? I don't think that any of us have the words.

[Jesslovers]

Judging from the comments, all the morons of course assume this has something to do with Islam. Is it actually possible for a Muslim to commit some transgression without the entire world thinking they did so as a result of them being a Muslim?

[joanbertis]

Dear Brothers & Sisters, Assalaamoalaikum

Honour killing is one of those tribal customs that have been embedded into Islam. Islam has NOTHING to do with honour killing.

Brotherly yours
farook

[Buhoutsoupfap]

i dont understand why an innocent victim of a very heinous crime is punished??? the victim should be given justice and revenge not punishment.

and even if a woman is consenting, where in islam does it stipulate that she is killed if she is not married? i thought the worse is being lashed and that it goes for both man and woman.

and also shouldnt there be four witnesses of the act anyway???

Please ask the US govt why innocent people are being killed for a crime they didn't even do!

[GroosteFoessy]

Bismillah
I do not know the authenticity of the story but if it really happens let Allah SWT save the muslims from suich jahil practice

[Ufkkrxcq]

There are over a billion Muslims in the world, and there millions of 'good stories' of Muslims, such as someone donating their wealth to build a masjid, a well, a school, a hospital. Or someone saving a life, or several lives.

Why is this despicable story being highlighted?
Because the IDEOLOGICAL COLONIZATION AND DOMINATION OF THE MUSLIM WORLD BY THE WEST HAS NOT CEASED. RATHER, IT CONTINUES.
Western media which dominates the world media, is a KEY median by which Western ideology is promoted as superior over Islam and the world. And articles like this in the Atlantic monthly by a German and a Pakistani women who submits to secular humanist ideology, are part of that process which began during imperial colonization of the world and continues to this day.

Pakistan is NOT representative of Islam. Rather, its a corrupted nation state run by a corrupt elite oligarchy. However, in the West, the aim is to portray whatever Muslims do as representative of Islam.


What should be highlighted is the ideological conflict at the center of this story:

****Because Muslims believe in and try to follow the Quran and Sunnah, then this kind of chaos happens today;

****Because Muslims believe a woman' testimony as witness is half that of a male witness, then this kind of chaos happens today (although a woman victim's testimony is acceptable alone);

****Because Muslims believe and follow that sex outside of marriage is immoral, sinful, wrong, then this kind of chaos happens.

Only by following the WEST and Western Man's ideological inventions, such as secular humanism which replaces Allah with Western Man as the Legislator and arbiter of Right and Wrong, and social libertinism which permits and encourages sex outside of marriage in all forms, can Pakistan and the world be liberated from such chaos.

And make no mistake, Pakistan continues to be under the influence of corrupt immoral establishment which allows for the propagation of Western ideological inventions. Prostitution, porn, the degradation of women occurs in Pakistan at a growing rate and the political leadership of the country is directly tied to it.
Its not only in Pakistan, its everywhere.
So any family trying to raise normal Muslim children are forced to deal with the ideological influence of kufr West, even on the internet, TV, schools, and those neighbors and their kids who are under its influence.

And Allah knows best.

[Ufkkrxcq]

RARELY are there reports of GOOD DEEDS by Muslims in ANY english language media source.
Arabic media DOES report good deeds of Muslims.



Here is a story of Farhan Ali Khan, a Pathan from SWAT who resided in Jeddah, Arabia when a flash flood hit the city in 2009 CE. Khan, who was a karate champion who worked in a grocery store, took action which saved the lives of 14 people before he himself drowned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJWzVbbul1M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8TfF...9469C29E555D82

A Pakistani karate champion who saved the lives of 14 people in the Nov. 25 flashfloods before drowning while trying to save another is one of the many unsung heroes of that fateful morning.

According to a report carried by Al-Hayat Arabic daily, Farman Ali Khan’s brother, Rahman, is making arrangements to airlift his body to Pakistan so that his family, including his three young daughters, would see him before his funeral.

“Farman’s youngest daughter Jarira has never seen her father,” Rahman told Al-Hayat, adding that his 32-year-old brother was a university graduate and held several certificates commending him for his voluntary work.

Rahman described his dead brother as a courageous man who ran through a fire to move a gas cylinder from a shop when he was 16. “If that cylinder exploded then there would have been a major disaster as there was a weapons warehouse nearby,” he said.

He added that Farman used tire tubes, wooden planks and ropes to save 14 people. “He was trying to save the 15th person when the water swept him away,” said Rahman, adding that his brother saved people without caring what their nationalities were.

“His main objective was to save the lives of as many people as possible, and he used all possible means to achieve that,” he said.

Rahman said his brother, who worked in a grocery store, was only able to visit his family in Pakistan twice since coming to the Kingdom six years ago.

“I am proud of my brother’s heroism and I believe he is among the martyrs,” said Rahman.

Farman is survived by his wife and three daughters — Zubaida, 7, Madeeha, 6, and Jarira, 4.

[mr.memo]

RARELY are there reports of GOOD DEEDS by Muslims in ANY english language media source.
Arabic media DOES report good deeds of Muslims.

Brother you have a good point there. Perhaps we should start a thread on such good deeds by our Muslim brothers and sisters. So we can have examples.

[Ufkkrxcq]

Here is a video of a Muslim saving a family caught in their truck in the same flash flood.

(there is Saudi music, so mute it to see the video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW477c-oXV0

[Buhoutsoupfap]

Brother you have a good point there. Perhaps we should start a thread on such good deeds by our Muslim brothers and sisters. So we can have examples.

Yes, GREAT POINT!

[mr.memo]

Yes, GREAT POINT!

Ok I will start a thread with brother Usama's post.

[Ufkkrxcq]

Brothers,

Yes, that is good advice. I will start one, insha Allah.

[Joircarm]

RARELY are there reports of GOOD DEEDS by Muslims in ANY english language media source.
Arabic media DOES report good deeds of Muslims.

The reality is that all media focus on bad news. Bad news sells papers and pulls in large viewing numbers. Since when does anyone see good news headlines in papers or on TV unless it is about sport or other things like that. Having said that muslims are picked on in the media. All reports of honor killings and rape should be reported and this practice of honor killings is done by a minority of muslims. It has nothing to do with Islam.

[violetgorman]

The reality is that all media focus on bad news. Bad news sells papers and pulls in large viewing numbers. Since when does anyone see good news headlines in papers or on TV unless it is about sport or other things like that. Having said that muslims are picked on in the media. All reports of honor killings and rape should be reported and this practice of honor killings is done by a minority of muslims. It has nothing to do with Islam.

That's one of the reasons some people committed crimes, to get publicity.

It's actually a good idea to have a compilation of faceless unsung heroes and their stories. It's not so much as a rebuttal for the Muslims stereotype in the West, but more importantly it highlights the behaviours/mannerism/akhlaq that every Muslim should strive for.

[Sttim]

the point I put it here, so that Muslims should investigate whether the story is true or not (just because it was reported by non-Muslim media?). If it is true, then DO something about it. Not bury our heads in the sand by saying "Yeah, but Muslims do good deeds as well". If it was not, then do something about it as well! Help these families, make dua for them, educate Muslims, tell your friends, etc.

Just my thoughts.

Plus, imagine when these people were helped by other than Muslims....

[Joircarm]

the point I put it here, so that Muslim should investigate whether the story is true or not (just because it was reported by non-Muslim media?). If it is true, then DO something about it. Not bury our heads in the sand by saying "Yeah, but Muslims do good deeds as well". If it was not, then do something about it as well! Help these families, make dua for them, educate Muslims, tell your friends, etc.

Just my thoughts.

I agree with what you have said here. I think there is an element of denial and paranoia amongst muslims which you can understand but the reality is that honor killings is present in Islamic society and to brush it aside by saying that the western media dont report positive things about Islam is just ignoring this very serious crime. The practice is wrong and it should be condemned, full stop.