[rozneesitcn]

Are these two Shaykhs good scholars?

[warrgazur]

Salafis consider Habib Umar to be mushrik

[gundas]

Their talks are very beneficial in the journey of love.

[BqTyG9eS]

Salafis consider Habib Umar to be mushrik

Why ?

[FelicitaJ]

Salam Aleykum,

Two scholars who are full of love and Iman, they have good knowledge and are considered Sufi which is why Salafis won't agree with them on a couple of matters (the usual Sufi/Salafi differences). Habib Ali is a very talented speaker.

[Maribellin]

Quote by ImamGhazzaali >
Why ?

Don't ask Salafis but ask Barelwis, you will know why !

[wCYvMKAc]

Don't ask Salafis but ask Barelwis, you will know why !

what is that suppose to mean ? is it some sort of sick joke ?

[sarcasm] bugmenot you are another sick person [/sarcasm]

[GaxyGroordrep]

Huzoor, it seems, is merely abul hussain playing around. Allahu a'lam.

[warrgazur]

Why ?

I don't know but maybe it's because of the Istighathah issue ?

[wCYvMKAc]

Huzoor, it seems, is merely abul hussain playing around. Allahu a'lam.

I think you are Abul Hussain playing around. You Another sick person on the forum. You accused me toqiyya before . Grow up sicko. I can give you my personal details and you can call me directly. This will prove the liar.

[rozneesitcn]

This thread is not about argueing if you wanna argue make another thread on a different website. Do not use this website as an argueing game.

[Maribellin]

Huzoor, it seems, is merely abul hussain playing around. Allahu a'lam.

I think suleimanibnsalim is YousefAbusSafar ( may be i am wrong) because he said i was salafi scholar like abu bakr, abu khalil, abu hasan, abu ma-adri meen, abu fulan etc etc http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/sear...st&showposts=1

these paranoid ones are perfect examples of disturbed brothers who need help.

May be Dr. Abu Tamim can suggest some ilaaj for them. too many brothers need tazkiyyah ilaaj these days and they are claimants of ahl tasawwuf...




May Allah guide us all.

[rozneesitcn]

Can you please stop arguing

[warrgazur]

Can anyone else tell us more about the two Shuyookh?

[Ephedrine]

the first 3 links are introductions of the Shaykh and the last link you can hear the Shaykh himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxsx-cds7vw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laMQ0JEK6Q0

http://www.youtube.com/user/habibuma.../0/hAIbw9Swu_A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCL33Esyw88

[Yifnvmzp]

I think someone should explain to the Shuyookh of Hadramaut the situation that exists in the West and the Sub-Continent, because them affiliating with jokers like the Radical Middle Way, Tahir ul-Qadri, Nazim Haqqani, etc. will only hurt their reputation here, and give their enemies more ammo against them.

It's actually similar to the situation many Arab Salafis face, where they associate with Madkhalis and Ahle Hadith whenever they appear in the West/Sub-Continent, because those groups are the most numerous and proactive, while in actuality, they disagree with many of the fundamental principles of those groups.

[blackjackblax]

In the thread about Mufti Rafi Usmanis visit to Shaykh Mahmud Effendi some comments are even more absurd: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...d-Efendi/page2

On the internet the rule is: the awwam grades and passes judgement on the Ulama. We think that we know better what is needed in the ummah than the Ulama because we know the "ground level". That the Ulama have knowledge about the situation, but has drawn other conclusions from it than us, is a thought that doesnt even cross our minds. We seem to question why Ulama X or Y doesnt "speak out" using harsh words against this or that tendency in the Ummah. Maybe the conclusion to draw from this should be that we should keep our mouths shut too.. just a thought. I am exactly the same way myself, i have opinions on virtually anything, obviously without a solid grounding for the opinions in most, if not all, cases. And this is a clearly visible tendency in the Ummah at large; the real Ulama are most often more reserved in their judgements than the laypeople. From this i can only draw the conclusion that the fault is not that the Ulama don´t know the situation or that they are cowards (may Allah protect us). It is us, the laypeople, who constantly voice our opinions on anything and everything who are at fault.

Two principles are entirely lacking among us:

1. Have a good opinion of your fellow muslim.
2. Leave what doesn´t concern you.

But if these two things were followed the entire muslim internet community would probably have to be dismantled

[warrgazur]

Are Habib 'Ali al-Jifry and Habib 'Umar of the Naqshabandi Tareeqah?

[Ephedrine]

Are Habib 'Ali al-Jifry and Habib 'Umar of the Naqshabandi Tareeqah?

No, they are Ba'Alawi

[CxofxJFm]

I think suleimanibnsalim is YousefAbusSafar ( may be i am wrong) because he said i was salafi scholar like abu bakr, abu khalil, abu hasan, abu ma-adri meen, abu fulan etc etc http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/sear...st&showposts=1

these paranoid ones are perfect examples of disturbed brothers who need help.

May be Dr. Abu Tamim can suggest some ilaaj for them. too many brothers need tazkiyyah ilaaj these days and they are claimants of ahl tasawwuf...




May Allah guide us all.

A_T himself is in dire need of ilaaj.