[Coellacag]

I've read somewhere (but can't remember where) that that famous and very often quoted hadith is quite weak; any more info please?

[avarberickibe]

I've read the same thing, but I've also read that although it's weak, its meaning is corroborated through other Ahadith. I've seen it qouted in fiqh books.

Allah Knows best.

[dafodilkemmy]

It is reportred in al-Mustradrak of Imam al-Hakim:

http://www.islamweb.net/newlibrary/d..._no=74&ID=1178

2848 - حدثنا أبو بكر محمد بن أحمد بن بالويه ، ثنا محمد بن عثمان بن أبي [ ص: 558 ] شيبة ، ثنا أحمد بن يونس ، ثنا معروف بن واصل ، عن محارب بن دثار ، عن عبد الله بن عمر - رضي الله عنهما - ، قال : قال رسول الله - صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم - : " ما أحل الله شيئا أبغض إليه من الطلاق " .

هذا حديث صحيح الإسناد

It is reported by al-Bayhaqi in Sunan al-Kubra:

http://www.islamweb.net/newlibrary/d...no=71&ID=14422

( أخبرنا ) أبو علي الروذباري ، أنا أبو بكر بن داسة ، نا أبو داود ، نا كثير بن عبيد ، نا محمد بن خالد عن معرف بن واصل عن محارب بن دثار عن ابن عمر رضي الله عنهما أن النبي - صلى الله عليه وسلم - قال : " أبغض الحلال إلى الله الطلاق "

It is reported in Sunan Abi Dawud:

http://www.islamweb.net/newlibrary/d...id=4&startno=0

باب في كراهية الطلاق

2177 حدثنا أحمد بن يونس حدثنا معرف عن محارب قال قال [ ص: 255 ] رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم ما أحل الله شيئا أبغض إليه من الطلاق

It is debated whether the hadith is in reality a Mursal hadith or whether it is Marfoo'. Although Mursal is evidence for the Ahnaf.

However the Scholars do agree that the meaning is correct:, Salafi Shaykh, Ibn al-'Uthaymeen says:

يروى عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم أنه قال : ( أبغض الحلال إلى الله الطلاق ) وهذا الحديث ليس بصحيح ،لكنَّ معناه صحيح ، أن الله تعالى يكره الطلاق

Wallahu A'lam

[casinobonusese]

I've read somewhere (but can't remember where) that that famous and very often quoted hadith is quite weak; any more info please?

Is it possible that what you read was about the hadith of the Arsh shaking due to talaq?

[UJRonald]

I've read somewhere (but can't remember where) that that famous and very often quoted hadith is quite weak; any more info please?

not read but heard it very often from various scholars.

[Coellacag]

Is it possible that what you read was about the hadith of the Arsh shaking due to talaq?

Uhm, no, if I remember correctly it was regarding the other hadith, but I may be mistaken.

Anyway now the main point is: is it accurate and correct to say that divorce is the most disliked/hated by Allah amongst the lawful things, or should we refrain from saying so?

[dafodilkemmy]

Bingo:

http://www.seekingilm.com/archives/311

[avarberickibe]

Wouldn't one use that Hadith in context of how Ulamaa have used it in fiqh books; to discourage people from unnecessarily resorting to divorce.

To delve into its authenticity and how it can be used in another context is not a layman's profession.

[Coellacag]

To delve into its authenticity and how it can be used in another context is not a layman's profession.

I completely agree brother.

My intention wasn't to delve into minute details of its classification; I just wanted to clarify if the meaning is correct (and thus if it can be said that "divorce is most hated thing among the permissible ones") after having doubts about it due to some old readings..

[avarberickibe]

I completely agree brother.

My intention wasn't to delve into minute details of its classification; I just wanted to clarify if the meaning is correct (and thus if it can be said that "divorce is most hated thing among the permissible ones") after having doubts about it due to some old readings..

Sorry for the misunderstanding, brother. I think this pretty much sums it up from the link al_Zayn posted:

What is meant by this Hadith?

According to Al-Khattabi, An-Nawawi, Ibn Hajr and others, this hadith refers to divorcing a woman without a reason (sabab). In other words, to divorce a woman without a reason angers Allah (SWT), even though it is Halal. Abu Dawud placed this hadith beneath the chapter heading “Regarding the Hated status of Divorce”. This hadith is warning the believers that divorce is not a game, or a ‘word’ to be thrown around when having a marital spat. The fact is, divorce tears families apart, can leave children with emotional scars, hurt and damage the family structure as a whole. So the believers should be wary, that this “Halal” act is hated by Allah (SWT) is abused or misused. http://www.seekingilm.com/archives/311

[plaiskegizils]

I made a thread a while back on the same issue,brother Umar you posted in it too

The hadeeth has a corroborating report from Mu’aadh ibn Jabal (may Allaah be pleased with him), which was narrated by al-Daaraqutni in al-Sunan (4/35) and Ibn ‘Adiy in al-Kaamil (2/694), with the wording: “Allaah has not permitted anything more hated to Him than divorce.” And there are other versions, but its isnaad is da’eef jiddan (very weak) and it is not valid to be quoted as evidence.

But although it is most likely that the hadeeth cannot be soundly attributed to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), its meaning is sound.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

It is narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The most hated of permissible things to Allaah is divorce.” This hadeeth is not saheeh, but its meaning is sound: Allaah hates divorce, but He does not forbid it to His slaves, so as to make things easier for them. If there is a legitimate shar’i or regular reason for divorce, then it is permissible and depends on the likely outcome of keeping this woman as one's wife. If keeping her will lead to something that is contrary to sharee’ah which cannot be avoided except by divorcing her, such as if the woman is lacking in religious commitment or chastity, and the husband cannot set her straight, then in this case we say that it is better to divorce. But if there is no shar’i reason or ordinary reason, then it is better not to divorce, rather in that case divorce is makrooh. End quote.

Liqaa’aat al-baab il-Maftooh, no. 55, question no. 3

That is what I found online, don't know if it answers your question. Here is the link to the original thread http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...aba&highlight=

[UJRonald]

Sorry for the misunderstanding, brother. I think this pretty much sums it up from the link al_Zayn posted:



http://www.seekingilm.com/archives/311

unfortunately,this hadith is used to stop women asking for divorce and keep them trapped in abusive marriages. Especially those women who are inclined to deen. So they grin and bear it based on the fact Allah does not like divorce. The link it seems gives the hadith some context which is different.

[avarberickibe]

unfortunately,this hadith is used to stop women asking for divorce and keep them trapped in abusive marriages. Especially those women who are inclined to deen. So they grin and bear it based on the fact Allah does not like divorce. The link it seems gives the hadith some context which is different.

Context is key.