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Old 09-08-2011, 09:40 AM   #1
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Default Why are we acting like Flies, what can be done to solve it..???


”Some people have the disease of criticizing all the time.
They forget the good about others and only mention their faults.
They are like flies that avoid the good and pure places and land on the bad and wounds.
This is because of the evil within the self and the spoiled nature.”

-Imam Ibn Taymiyyah (R)
This is true with most of us. What can be done to avoid this sort of negativity? If you think you are absolutely free of this problem, please share your method in which you avoid fault finding. Allah will forgive any sin other than Shirk (and even shirk with repentance), then why are we so particular in others faults? If it was a part of 'enjoining good and forbidding evil' then thats fine, but is that our true intention ?
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Old 09-08-2011, 12:40 PM   #2
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What negativity? This is the problem with you people. You never listen to me. What has shirk got to do with fault finding? I never do that. Which madhab are you? Shafi'i is not spelt like that.
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:00 PM   #3
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”Some people have the disease of criticizing all the time.
They forget the good about others and only mention their faults.
They are like flies that avoid the good and pure places and land on the bad and wounds.
This is because of the evil within the self and the spoiled nature.”

-Imam Ibn Taymiyyah (R)
This is true with most of us. What can be done to avoid this sort of negativity? If you think you are absolutely free of this problem, please share your method in which you avoid fault finding. Allah will forgive any sin other than Shirk (and even shirk with repentance), then why are we so particular in others faults? If it was a part of 'enjoining good and forbidding evil' then thats fine, but is that our true intention ?

On the other side, there is another kind of a 'fly'. An Nahl - The Honey bee.

It does not even look towards the filth. It is busy in collecting the nectar of flowers. People will be amazed on the types of honey they make from different flowers. And Allah has even named a whole chapter in the Holy Qur'an An Nahl.

What is the conclusion. The filthy bee or FLY sits on filth and transmits it thus harming one and all.

On the other hand, the honey bee sits on the flowers, extracting their nectar and converting it into honey, which is cure for diseases for mankind.

May Allah give us the tawfiq to seek the company of the pious and the awliyaa


Ameen
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:03 PM   #4
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What negativity? This is the problem with you people. You never listen to me. What has shirk got to do with fault finding? I never do that. Which madhab are you? Shafi'i is not spelt like that.


I misunderstood in the beginning. lol. Thanx for the example brother.

The example brother qibla has posted is what happens with most of us. What do we do to lessen this habit, and eventually loose it.?
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:05 PM   #5
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On the other side, there is another kind of a 'fly'. An Nahl - The Honey bee.

It does not even look towards the filth. It is busy in collecting the nectar of flowers. People will be amazed on the types honey they make from different flowers. And Allah has even named a whole chapter in the Holy Qur'an An Nahl.

What is the conclusion. The filthy bee or FLY sits on filth and transmits it thus harming one and all.

On the other hand, the honey bee sits on the flowers, extracting their nectar and converting it into honey, which is cure for diseases for mankind.

May Allah give us the tawfiq to seek the company of the pious and the awliyaa


Ameen

Its true indeed, for the nice analogy. We should concentrate more on gathering honey.
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:23 PM   #6
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On the other side, there is another kind of a 'fly'. An Nahl - The Honey bee.

It does not even look towards the filth. It is busy in collecting the nectar of flowers. People will be amazed on the types of honey they make from different flowers. And Allah has even named a whole chapter in the Holy Qur'an An Nahl.

What is the conclusion. The filthy bee or FLY sits on filth and transmits it thus harming one and all.

On the other hand, the honey bee sits on the flowers, extracting their nectar and converting it into honey, which is cure for diseases for mankind.

May Allah give us the tawfiq to seek the company of the pious and the awliyaa


Ameen

There is one more thing about bees. The other makhlooq does not mess up with them.
Wassalam
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:28 PM   #7
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What a nice example. I was listening to a talk of Mufti Ebrahim Salejee Daamat Barakaatuh the other day and he mentioned both the example of the honey bee and the fly.
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Old 09-08-2011, 02:23 PM   #8
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maashaaAllah nice
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Old 09-08-2011, 03:13 PM   #9
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SubhanAllah, the bitter truth.
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Old 09-08-2011, 03:37 PM   #10
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it is a bitter truth. But, also because people have some heart in them. If they don't criticize, mean they not bother. Mean they don't have the love of it towards others in their heart. Criticize is bad, but not all the time. Without anybody criticize us, we won't know when we go wrong.

Although some people try to find and see others fault, but sometimes the fault is true. If it's not, than it's always because of some part of the understanding of each people on some issue.

If we had a good intention, Insya Allah, criticise will change us for the better even it's bitter. If the person that criticise had a bad intention, the criticise won't bother us at all!
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Old 09-08-2011, 03:54 PM   #11
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it is a bitter truth. But, also because people have some heart in them. If they don't criticize, mean they not bother. Mean they don't have the love of it towards others in their heart. Criticize is bad, but not all the time. Without anybody criticize us, we won't know when we go wrong.

Although some people try to find and see others fault, but sometimes the fault is true. If it's not, than it's always because of some part of the understanding of each people on some issue.

If we had a good intention, Insya Allah, criticise will change us for the better even it's bitter. If the person that criticise had a bad intention, the criticise won't bother us at all!
Bismillah
I think it all goes down the way we adopt to point out mistakes. If we are not humble enough and throw things thinking ourself better, then the problem will arise but when that goes with care, there is positive enlightnment and unfortunately most of us lack that. Allahu alam
Let Allah SWT give us all tawfeeq to follow our beloved Prophet SAW and the pious predeccors when it comes to dealing with fellow muslims. Amin
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Old 09-08-2011, 04:01 PM   #12
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The way one which points out the mistake is very important. But something is noticed that is more important is the 'Intention'. Sometimes initially we start pointing out faults and correcting with good intentions, to please Allah.
BUT
before we realize it becomes an ego booster. The intention CHANGES but we fail to realize. We feel we are better and 'always right'.

Beautiful example from our beloved Rasoolullah : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DETLcyn2xBc
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Old 09-08-2011, 04:16 PM   #13
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The way one which points out the mistake is very important. But something is noticed that is more important is the 'Intention'. Sometimes initially we start pointing out faults and correcting with good intentions, to please Allah.
BUT
before we realize it becomes an ego booster. The intention CHANGES but we fail to realize. We feel we are better and 'always right'.

Beautiful example from our beloved Rasoolullah : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DETLcyn2xBc
Bismillah
Yeah that is what happens and we should keep checking ourselves every time we speak or write and most of the time we lose our track giving up to nafs. Let Allah SWT forgive us and guide us all. Amin
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Old 09-08-2011, 04:30 PM   #14
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Why are we quick to criticise when a brother starts a new project (criticising his method, his results, not even providing him with any alternatives) whereas when the project is good, nobody praises his work, no single comment or email to encourage him, nor helping him financially.

May Allah guide us.
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:28 PM   #15
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it is a bitter truth. But, also because people have some heart in them. If they don't criticize, mean they not bother. Mean they don't have the love of it towards others in their heart. Criticize is bad, but not all the time. Without anybody criticize us, we won't know when we go wrong.

Although some people try to find and see others fault, but sometimes the fault is true. If it's not, than it's always because of some part of the understanding of each people on some issue.

If we had a good intention, Insya Allah, criticise will change us for the better even it's bitter. If the person that criticise had a bad intention, the criticise won't bother us at all!
this is so very, very, very true! suntimes when a person critisizes you, even tho you maybe dont ubderstand his/her language it makes you realise and want to rectify your fault,,, and with some people, when they critisize you with a looong lecture, pointing out you faults one by one - you dont feel at all like changing even though you know you are wrong!
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Old 09-08-2011, 10:18 PM   #16
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Why are we quick to criticise when a brother starts a new project (criticising his method, his results, not even providing him with any alternatives) whereas when the project is good, nobody praises his work, no single comment or email to encourage him, nor helping him financially.

May Allah guide us.
Ameen.

Its true brother. We do not know the proper way to correct a person.

I think the major things one has to stess are: Ikhlas(sincerity) and Adhab(manners)
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:44 AM   #17
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Also we have to fix the following attittude : 'Alhamdulillah that i am religious and can guide other. If it weren't for me they would have become deviant.'
I always suffered from this attitude..!! Its really wrong, Allah give guidance and doesn't need us. Instead we are in need of guidance.
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:48 AM   #18
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Also we have to fix the following attittude : 'Alhamdulillah that i am religious and can guide other. If it weren't for me they would have become deviant.'
I always suffered from this attitude..!! Its really wrong, Allah give guidance and doesn't need us. Instead we are in need of guidance.
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Old 09-09-2011, 02:06 AM   #19
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akhy 'amr,

Its true brother. We do not know the proper way to correct a person.
And on top of that, we do not encourage people where it is due. That is the important point I wish to underline to all our brothers and sisters viewing this thread because it shows to which extent we lack of brotherhood.

What does it take to email such author of such website just to say 'JazakAllahu khayran' or 'Thank you', even non-muslims do it, what is wrong with us that we think everything is due ? (That also highlightes the fact we're not ready to donate for religious causes (paying an imam for example) but we're ready for duniyawi things like a lawyer,...).

Surely if we start appreciate good things we will be less negative about finding our brother's faults...

And Allah (swt) knows best.
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Old 09-10-2011, 11:23 PM   #20
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“Man comes from a drop of semen and leaves as a piece of dust.
He doesn’t know when he came and he doesn’t know when he’s leaving,
yet he goes around thinking he knows everything.”

[Ali Ibn Abi Thalib(ra)]
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