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Old 09-08-2011, 03:37 AM   #1
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As-salaamualaikum Warahmatullaahi Wabarakaatuh,

Alright this is for all of Hazrat Moulana Shah Jamal ur Rahman Sahabs Mureeds.
I was thinking to take bayth on the hands of Hazrat Shah Sahab but before doing that i want to know few things about him. I've heard a lot about him that he saw Rahmat e Aalam Sallalaahualaihi Wasallam many times in his dreams and atleast once every month. Have anybody of u heard about this ?

And i want to know what special qualities you have seen in him or noticed about him or heard about him from reliable sources. Is he really one of the big Wali of ALLAH ?

I live in Hyderabad, India. And Support and believe firmly 100% Alhamdulillaah that Tabligh work is 100% true and Darul Uloom Deoband Ulama are Ulama e Haq and those who are affiliated to it.
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Old 09-08-2011, 03:47 AM   #2
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As-salaamualaikum Warahmatullaahi Wabarakaatuh,

Alright this is for all of Hazrat Moulana Shah Jamal ur Rahman Sahabs Mureeds.
I was thinking to take bayth on the hands of Hazrat Shah Sahab but before doing that i want to know few things about him. I've heard a lot about him that he saw Rahmat e Aalam Sallalaahualaihi Wasallam many times in his dreams and atleast once every month. Have anybody of u heard about this ?

And i want to know what special qualities you have seen in him or noticed about him or heard about him from reliable sources. Is he really one of the big Wali of ALLAH ?

I live in Hyderabad, India. And Support and believe firmly 100% Alhamdulillaah that Tabligh work is 100% true and Darul Uloom Deoband Ulama are Ulama e Haq and those who are affiliated to it.

well, I am not his mureed but I came to know from other Ulema there, that he is a very senior Aalim and a great wali Allah, InshAllah. You may meet Mufti Tajammul Qasmi sb of Hussaini Masjid, vijaynagar colony (near Mallapally ) who is his khalifa also for more details about Hazrat.
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:08 PM   #3
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well, I am not his mureed but I came to know from other Ulema there, that he is a very senior Aalim and a great wali Allah, InshAllah. You may meet Mufti Tajammul Qasmi sb of Hussaini Masjid, vijaynagar colony (near Mallapally ) who is his khalifa also for more details about Hazrat.
JazaakALLAH Khair. InshaALLAH i will see to it to meet him. Can anybody else tell me more about him ?
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:12 PM   #4
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As-salaamualaikum Warahmatullaahi Wabarakaatuh,

Alright this is for all of Hazrat Moulana Shah Jamal ur Rahman Sahabs Mureeds.
I was thinking to take bayth on the hands of Hazrat Shah Sahab but before doing that i want to know few things about him. I've heard a lot about him that he saw Rahmat e Aalam Sallalaahualaihi Wasallam many times in his dreams and atleast once every month. Have anybody of u heard about this ?

And i want to know what special qualities you have seen in him or noticed about him or heard about him from reliable sources. Is he really one of the big Wali of ALLAH ?

I live in Hyderabad, India. And Support and believe firmly 100% Alhamdulillaah that Tabligh work is 100% true and Darul Uloom Deoband Ulama are Ulama e Haq and those who are affiliated to it.
I think first you should read up on adaab of shaikh and then request permission to attend his majalis for sometime.
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:19 PM   #5
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. I've heard a lot about him that he saw Rahmat e Aalam Sallalaahualaihi Wasallam many times in his dreams and atleast once every month. Have anybody of u heard about this ?
What if this is not true, then what? Anyways, seeing Huzoor salallahu alayhi wa sallam in a dream isnt even a sign of a persons acceptance. Mushrikeen Munafiqeen used to see Huzoor salallahu alayhi wa sallam face to face, does that mean they are accepted in the High Court of Allah swt? What does Hazrat Shah sahib (db) ziyarat of Nabi Kareem salallahu alayhi wa sallam got to do with you and islahi taluq? What if he never saw in his entire life? Would that make him a less wali of Allah swt or not worth being a shaikh?

And i want to know what special qualities you have seen in him or noticed about him or heard about him from reliable sources. Is he really one of the big Wali of ALLAH ? What special qualities are you searching for, can he fly in the air or offer salaah on water or disappear into thin air? Do you even know what qualities to look for? Maybe the better question to ask is "can anyone tell me what qualities I should look for in a shaikh e kaamil?" Who knows who is big wali of Allah swt and to what level their wilayat is at? Only Allah swt knows that, we just have husn e dhann, a good opinion, that the person shows signs that he is has a very special relationship with Allah swt and is an accepted individual in the eyes of Allah swt.

Seeing that Hazrat Shah sahab (db) is an accepted person and is highly respected in the eyes of big ulama and mashaikh is a clear as daylight sign that he is a champion in this field.
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:45 PM   #6
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One thing which always inspires me is the isteqamat of the pious. With Hazrat DB the one quality that stands out is his isteqamat, he is just the same he was years ago. Whenever someone asks me about him, I always say that Hazrat is an epitome of balance and consistency. He is also the head of Ulema and keenly oversees the work of madaris in Hyderabad.

I've had the good fortune of meeting him and doing some khidmath for him.

If you are looking for bait , then it is better to attend his majlis for sometime, get affinity to his persona and then decide.

There is a majlis every friday after Juma prayer at his house which is situated in Asifnagar( near Royal sea hotel ). For more info you can contact Saaalik on this forum , who is his mureed but unfortunately hasnt been posting for a while.
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Old 09-09-2011, 04:32 PM   #7
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I think first you should read up on adaab of shaikh and then request permission to attend his majalis for sometime.
Brother Where can i read Adaab of Shaikh ? and what is it by the way ? Does it mean that to learn how to do adab of our Mashaikh ?
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Old 09-09-2011, 04:36 PM   #8
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What if this is not true, then what? Anyways, seeing Huzoor salallahu alayhi wa sallam in a dream isnt even a sign of a persons acceptance. Mushrikeen Munafiqeen used to see Huzoor salallahu alayhi wa sallam face to face, does that mean they are accepted in the High Court of Allah swt? What does Hazrat Shah sahib (db) ziyarat of Nabi Kareem salallahu alayhi wa sallam got to do with you and islahi taluq? What if he never saw in his entire life? Would that make him a less wali of Allah swt or not worth being a shaikh?
I didn't mean that brother. Don't get wrong. What i mean is sometimes Rahmat e Aalam Sallallaahualaihi Wasallam meets people for some message for some work. So, i was thinking from that point of view. That does he Sallallaahualaihi Wasallam comes to his dreams and talks to him and advised him many times and i felt that if its the case then wow i would be lucky to be under someone who is being advised by RASOOLULLAH Sallallaahualaihi Wasallam. Btw if you are his mureed and if u felt bad with anything i said then i apologize brother
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Old 09-09-2011, 04:49 PM   #9
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What special qualities are you searching for, can he fly in the air or offer salaah on water or disappear into thin air? Do you even know what qualities to look for? Maybe the better question to ask is "can anyone tell me what qualities I should look for in a shaikh e kaamil?" Who knows who is big wali of Allah swt and to what level their wilayat is at? Only Allah swt knows that, we just have husn e dhann, a good opinion, that the person shows signs that he is has a very special relationship with Allah swt and is an accepted individual in the eyes of Allah swt.

Seeing that Hazrat Shah sahab (db) is an accepted person and is highly respected in the eyes of big ulama and mashaikh is a clear as daylight sign that he is a champion in this field.
No no brother I once again didn't want to say that. I meant with "Anything special" as anything special in being consistent in doing a looooot of zikr as we know about hazrat Miskin Shah Sahab Rahmatullah Alaih that he use to do zikr of Qalb ALLAHu ALLAH 25000 times daily. So, has anybody heard any special zikr of hazrat. And i wanted to know that if anybody experienced that Hazrat can just talk with his mureed and understood the problem and advised him something and after following he felt improvement in anything of his life or mamoolaat like that. Cause i want to be under the baith of somebody who should give me solutions to the problems im facing as i face many problems sometimes and i would feel that my problems are being solved with hidden solutions which are being opened on my hazrat by ALLAH subhaanahuwa Ta'aala and i want a guide who would guide me and take me on the path which would lead to the Love of ALLAH. Like Hazrat Muhaddith e Deccan Syed Abdullah Shah Naqshbandi Rahmatullah 'Alaih When i heard about him completely how he was, a need kind of started pumping in me badly that i need a shaykh like Hazrat Muhaddith e Deccan Rahmatullah 'Alaih who would advice for problems and problems would be solved and whose faiz should be so much that i should meet with my shaykh in my dreams also for advices in the path of Sulook at every step like that. I hope u understood. I apologize if in anyway u didnt like.
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Old 09-09-2011, 05:51 PM   #10
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He is a good scholar

I have heard few of his bayans..
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Old 09-09-2011, 06:23 PM   #11
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No no brother I once again didn't want to say that. I meant with "Anything special" as anything special in being consistent in doing a looooot of zikr as we know about hazrat Miskin Shah Sahab Rahmatullah Alaih that he use to do zikr of Qalb ALLAHu ALLAH 25000 times daily. So, has anybody heard any special zikr of hazrat. And i wanted to know that if anybody experienced that Hazrat can just talk with his mureed and understood the problem and advised him something and after following he felt improvement in anything of his life or mamoolaat like that. Cause i want to be under the baith of somebody who should give me solutions to the problems im facing as i face many problems sometimes and i would feel that my problems are being solved with hidden solutions which are being opened on my hazrat by ALLAH subhaanahuwa Ta'aala and i want a guide who would guide me and take me on the path which would lead to the Love of ALLAH. Like Hazrat Muhaddith e Deccan Syed Abdullah Shah Naqshbandi Rahmatullah 'Alaih When i heard about him completely how he was, a need kind of started pumping in me badly that i need a shaykh like Hazrat Muhaddith e Deccan Rahmatullah 'Alaih who would advice for problems and problems would be solved and whose faiz should be so much that i should meet with my shaykh in my dreams also for advices in the path of Sulook at every step like that. I hope u understood. I apologize if in anyway u didnt like.
Fahad,

You are being swayed by emotions I guess. Sulook is a journey and for most, a very long one. Like bhai Fusoos has said, please try to understand what sulook is. You can refer to the book Sulook kya hai by Hazrat Moulana Manzoor Nomani SB RA.

I already gave you a precious contact who is a very friendly and pious person. Ask the mods for his email and ask him all the questions you want to know. Since none of us are bait with Hazrat we cannot give you exact details of how he interacts with mureeds and the zikr he advices.
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