[Dwemadayday]

Is Libya becoming another Afganistan ? The reality is complicated.

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Global Research correspondent Mahdi Nazemroaya, who is stationed in a central Tripoli hotel with the international press, says the journalists are being targeted by the rebels and the NATO forces that support them. While he is speaking to RT, shooting can be heard. “They are specifically targeting the areas where international journalists are, to sow panic here,” he argued. “NATO has done all the heavy work. This is a NATO war. They heavily bombed cities west of [Tripoli], they’ve bombed all night, without even 10 seconds of stopping. They have bombed this entire city and NATO landed the insurgents on the coast of Tripoli.”

But the city’s defenders are not pessimitic, continues Nazemroaya.

“The situation has gone tenser,” said Nazemroaya. “More members of the hotel stuff have returned with guns. Obviously they have been fighting. These are volunteers, not soldiers. They returned with a picture which is not a picture of loss and they are confident.”

[Dwemadayday]

Oil is one important part of the game. But there are more issues related to Libya. You should
read the Albert Pike's letter on the net.

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Months of chaos await Libya if the NATO-led operation in the country topples Muammar Gaddafi, political analyst William Engdahl told RT, but regime change would suit Western oil interests.

“They are eventually going to topple Gaddafi," he said. “And I think what Libya is going to face after that is a period of prolonged chaos. Nobody knows the outcome.”

“What emerges from that, I think it suits some of the Western oil interests, especially the British and the French, who were fighting like piranhas over grabbing the most juicy oil fields for their own companies,” said Engdahl, author of "Full Spectrum Dominance: Totalitarian Democracy in the New World Order.”

Engdahl says NATO’s actions in Libya have created a very virulent precedent.

“What we have going on in Libya for some months now is a major effort by the US and NATO forces to pour at least $1 billion by various estimates into the so-called Transitional National Council,” he said. “It’s rival tribal clan warfare that is going on in Libya. This is not a democracy movement by any stretch of the imagination.”

Engdahl said it is simply an insurgency being supported covertly by US-financed armed shipments to the rebels – in order, he claimed “to simply carve up the oil fields and get them into Western hands, rather than in Libyan state hands, which Gaddafi held firmly on to.”

[Bill-Watson]

brother pawlak....

[Dwemadayday]

brother pawlak....

Walcumus Salam. The evil is afraid of the truth. Now , the evil is threatening the journalist who does not follow the official line !!.

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Tripoli: Concern regarding the death threats hanging over Mahdi Nazemroaya and Thierry Meyssan


We are posting this advisory by our partner media group Voltaire Network regarding the death threats directed against Thierry Meyssan and Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya, who are currently stranded in the media centre of the Rixos hotel in Tripoli amidst heavy fighting around the hotel. Reporting out of Tripoli, Mahdi Nazemroaya, in the course of the last two months, has provided our readers' with a critical assessment of the NATO bombing raids.

Global Research will be preparing a more detailed statement on this issue. At the moment all our time and energy has been directed towards ensuring the safety of Mahdi, Thierry and several other independent journalists trapped in the Rixos Hotel. These endeavors have considerably slowed down our editorial work.

The atmosphere within the media centre of the Rixos Hotel in Tripoli must be understood.

The mainstream media, including CNN and the BBC have direct links to NATO, the Transitional Council and Rebel Forces. They are serving NATO interests in a direct way through massive media distortion.

At the same time, those within the Rixos Media Centre who are committed to the truth are the the object of veiled threats.

Those who say the truth are threatened.

Those who lie and accept the NATO consensus, their lives will be protected. NATO special forces operating within rebel ranks will ensure their safety.

It is unsavoury environment: personal ties have broken down. The independent media journalist as well as those from non-NATO countries including China, Iran, Latin America are considered "persona non grata" by the mainstream media groups within the hotel.

[Dwemadayday]

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The entire scope of the war was about capturing Libya as another launch pad for further empire building in the Middle East and north Africa, which is why PNAC neo-cons ordered “Peace Laureate” Obama to do it in the first place. The conquest was about securing the richest oil resources in the whole of Africa, it was about stealing 6 billion dollars in gold reserves, and it was about putting a halt to China’s efforts to virtually re-colonize Africa.

Although Gaddafi was obviously an autocratic dictator, he did reinvest much of Libya’s oil wealth back into the country, transforming it into one of the most well-developed nations in the whole region, which is why a lot of the middle classes in major cities retained their support for the Libyan leader.

All that is set to change now that NATO forces and the central banks that stand behind them will finally get the opportunity to properly plunder Libya for all it has. Living standards will plummet, corrupt strong men will take control with globalist blessings and run the country into the ground for their own good, so long as they allow NATO and US air force bases to be constructed throughout the land.

Save for any last minute counter-attack by Gaddafi forces, the globalist war machine can now focus on toppling its next domino on the road to world domination. Rest assured, whether its Syria, Iran, Pakistan or anywhere else, a suitable hoax will be invented as a pretext for invasion and the western establishment media will

[AdipexAdipex]

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The entire scope of the war was about capturing Libya as another launch pad for further empire building in the Middle East and north Africa, which is why PNAC neo-cons ordered “Peace Laureate” Obama to do it in the first place. The conquest was about securing the richest oil resources in the whole of Africa, it was about stealing 6 billion dollars in gold reserves, and it was about putting a halt to China’s efforts to virtually re-colonize Africa.

Although Gaddafi was obviously an autocratic dictator, he did reinvest much of Libya’s oil wealth back into the country, transforming it into one of the most well-developed nations in the whole region, which is why a lot of the middle classes in major cities retained their support for the Libyan leader.

All that is set to change now that NATO forces and the central banks that stand behind them will finally get the opportunity to properly plunder Libya for all it has. Living standards will plummet, corrupt strong men will take control with globalist blessings and run the country into the ground for their own good, so long as they allow NATO and US air force bases to be constructed throughout the land.

Save for any last minute counter-attack by Gaddafi forces, the globalist war machine can now focus on toppling its next domino on the road to world domination. Rest assured, whether its Syria, Iran, Pakistan or anywhere else, a suitable hoax will be invented as a pretext for invasion and the western establishment media will

This is scary stuff. As I said in another thread. Paranoia has taken over. There is only one place Ghadaffi is going when he dies and that is straight to hell. He has been stealing the assets of libya for 42 years and building his so called empire, just like Assad, just like King Mohammed and his predecessors in Morocco. There is huge poverty on Libya. The people who have benefitted most from this butchers regime is the people with money in their pocket now, mostly in Tripoli.

Please elaborate on what you mean by describing Libya as one of the most developed nations in the region. That is easy to say when most of the people in the region are living in huge poverty and they shouldnt be.

[bestonlinepharmasy2]

There is huge poverty on Libya. The people who have benefitted most from this butchers regime is the people with money in their pocket now, mostly in Tripoli.

Please elaborate on what you mean by describing Libya as one of the most developed nations in the region. That is easy to say when most of the people in the region are living in huge poverty and they shouldnt be.

It is easy to claim when you dont live in libya and eat what western media feeds you sister. Ghaddafi is no way better than anyother, yet he had done a lot of things with the oil of the country which the western media couldnt get easily. A lot of african even christian african i knew praised ghaddafi highly for his work for the country. know the history of Libya sister, not all of sudden western media starts to feed you like they did before about afghanistan-iraq war.

Libya has got plenty of foreign workers. when you got poverty in your own country , you dont hire 10000 of workers from other poor country.

-School education is free
-they got health insurance, none dies without any treatment.
-in world ranking of High human development (developing countries) they are in no.55 and in Arab world no.5th position and no.1 in africa continent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...elopment_Index

-in a country of 95% desert land, they made the man made river so that now nearly 100% people gets water.
-for people who gets married first time, they gets 60000 dinars without any interest!!!

The rebelians about which we hear now a days, did exist since 30 years ago already. They are none but the people of ex-king who was kick out by the army of ghaddafi 40 yars ago. So no wonder how all this rebelians come to exist.

Why sudden war when ITaly and FRance were getting their oils from libya via private sectors?

the reasons are:

Reason for war? Gaddafi wanted to nationalise oil

and getting some Extra money will not harm us:

List_of_countries_by_external_debt

[AdipexAdipex]

It is easy to claim when you dont live in libya and eat what western media feeds you sister. Ghaddafi is no way better than anyother, yet he had done a lot of things with the oil of the country which the western media couldnt get easily. A lot of african even christian african i knew praised ghaddafi highly for his work for the country. know the history of Libya sister, not all of sudden western media starts to feed you like they did before about afghanistan-iraq war.

Libya has got plenty of foreign workers. when you got poverty in your own country , you dont hire 10000 of workers from other poor country.

-School education is free
-they got health insurance, none dies without any treatment.
-in world ranking of High human development (developing countries) they are in no.55 and in Arab world no.5th position and no.1 in africa continent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...elopment_Index

-in a country of 95% desert land, they made the man made river so that now nearly 100% people gets water.
-for people who gets married first time, they gets 60000 dinars without any interest!!!

The rebelians about which we hear now a days, did exist since 30 years ago already. They are none but the people of ex-king who was kick out by the army of ghaddafi 40 yars ago. So no wonder how all this rebelians come to exist.

Why sudden war when ITaly and FRance were getting their oils from libya via private sectors?

the reasons are:

Reason for war? Gaddafi wanted to nationalise oil

and getting some Extra money will not harm us:

List_of_countries_by_external_debt

Dont patronise me brother with your talk of western media, my aunt has been living in Tripoli for almost 30 years, married to a libyan with 4 children. That's personal experience. Nobody has been able to contact them since this rebellion has begun and for a long time now they have had to be very careful what they say on international calls made home. Big brother is watching!!!!

If Ghadaffi is as good as people say, why did he pay men from Chad and surrounding countries to come in and fight for him. Paranoia again. Yes the west have exploited this region to their own ends but a tyrant is a tyrant. The man obviously has a psychiatric condition

His son for another 42 years, how does that sound? Was Bush in power for 42 years, imagine that.

A country with that sort of wealth should be an example to the world with only a population of 6 million.

Your point about Libya being top of african nations isnt really anything to boast about!

Lets have somemore western bashing, after all the are responsible for all that is evil in the world. Why is then that people from these poor nations are doing their best to get to the EU for a better life. Why do hundreds of people die every year crossing the Meditteranean fleeing countries from Africa. Get real!

[bestonlinepharmasy2]

Dont patronise me brother with your talk of western media, my aunt has been living in Tripoli for almost 30 years, married to a libyan with 4 children. That's personal experience.

My poor cousin work there too(hope he is still alive and not dead by NATO bombing).He is getting all those facilities i mentioned above. Wait a minute we got a brother from tripoli,his nick is "Tripolisunni", what about asking him!

If Ghadaffi is as good as people say,

He isnt a good man. he is utter idiot sometime to be honest. but who cares, let local people decide. let western oil their own machine. they hasnt got the tendership to take care every nations domestic problem.Ahh OIL, to oil their own machine they need now OIL of LIBYA.

Yes the west have exploited this region to their own ends but a tyrant is a tyrant. The man obviously has a psychiatric condition

Sister, Ghaddafi has got no post at all which rules the goverment!!! the truth is he has left his position even a decade ago! then what is he? he is the main of revolotionary commity. This commity isnt run by goverment itself. at 1969 ghaddafi made this revoloution group with 12 comrade and he is the main of this group. this group doesnt interfare in internal matter but only gives advice about foreign affairs to the peoples commity. If ghaddafi isnt the leader of the goverment then who is?

Its baghdadi ali al Muhammadi.

His son for another 42 years, how does that sound? Was Bush in power for 42 years, imagine that.

Bush killed 2 nation with millions of people and injured. Ghaddafi didnt do even 5% of what bush did in 8 year. may God´s curse be upon Bush.

A country with that sort of wealth should be an example to the world with only a population of 6 million.

it is an example indeed, but why mention that in media! how will western be able to attack libya and get the oil stolen like they did in iraq?

Your point about Libya being top of african nations isnt really anything to boast about!

for you its not, but for the world it is, well do the world know about it! I guess the media hasnt spoke about it!

Why is then that people from these poor nations are doing their best to get to the EU for a better life. Why do hundreds of people die every year crossing the Meditteranean fleeing countries from Africa. Get real!

For your kind info sister, Libya isnt synonym of african nation. plenty of soldiers who are fighting for ghadafi are mostly from other africa nations. we are talking about libya and not africa.

[AdipexAdipex]

My poor cousin work there too(hope he is still alive and not dead by NATO bombing).He is getting all those facilities i mentioned above. Wait a minute we got a brother from tripoli,his nick is "Tripolisunni", what about asking him!

He isnt a good man. he is utter idiot sometime to be honest. but who cares, let local people decide. let western oil their own machine. they hasnt got the tendership to take care every nations domestic problem.Ahh OIL, to oil their own machine they need now OIL of LIBYA.

Sister, Ghaddafi has got no post at all which rules the goverment!!! the truth is he has left his position even a decade ago! then what is he? he is the main of revolotionary commity. This commity isnt run by goverment itself. at 1969 ghaddafi made this revoloution group with 12 comrade and he is the main of this group. this group doesnt interfare in internal matter but only gives advice about foreign affairs to the peoples commity. If ghaddafi isnt the leader of the goverment then who is?

Its baghdadi ali al Muhammadi.

Bush killed 2 nation with millions of people and injured. Ghaddafi didnt do even 5% of what bush did in 8 year. may God´s curse be upon Bush.

it is an example indeed, but why mention that in media! how will western be able to attack libya and get the oil stolen like they did in iraq?

for you its not, but for the world it is, well do the world know about it! I guess the media hasnt spoke about it!

For your kind info sister, Libya isnt synonym of african nation. plenty of soldiers who are fighting for ghadafi are mostly from other africa nations. we are talking about libya and not africa.

There is no point in going on with this thread for me, absolutely pointless, no justification whatsoever for tyranny and to describe tyranny as stability is beyond belief.

[bestonlinepharmasy2]

There is no point in going on with this thread for me, absolutely pointless, no justification whatsoever for tyranny and to describe tyranny as stability is beyond belief.

yes, NATO should throw clasters bombs like US did in Iraq and afghanistan to remove "tyrany/the wall between oil treasure"

[AdipexAdipex]

yes, NATO should throw clasters bombs like US did in Iraq and afghanistan to remove "tyrany/the wall between oil treasure"

Are you an Al queda supporter too?

[bestonlinepharmasy2]

Are you an Al queda supporter too?

Concentrate on the infos and not on person´s own ideology sister =)

If saying US did throw millions of claster on Iraq(oil tresure) and afghanistan(opium treasure) people makes me supporter of al-Qaida, then yes i am al-qaida supporter.

you're either with us, or against us.

[AdipexAdipex]

Concentrate on the infos and not on person´s own ideology sister =)

If saying US did throw millions of claster on Iraq(oil tresure) and afghanistan(opium treasure) people makes me supporter of al-Qaida, then yes i am al-qaida supporter.

you're either with us, or against us.

If you go by what you are saying, than the world is black and white and it is not!

I never said there was no cluster bombs used in Iraq or afganistan, whether you are from the west or east, a bomb or a bullet is the same, it kills, just like hussein killed 100's of 1000's of his own people, just like bin laden killed 1000's of people. Just like today in Somalia, al qaida are preventing people who are dying getting food from aid agencies. Murder is murder. 1 life in the east = 1 life in the west. Muslims bombing their own mosques, what is that about? The world has gone mad.

I am against who by the way? You? Islam?

[bestonlinepharmasy2]

just like bin laden killed 1000's of people.

Bin laden didnt. Did USA ever brought the proof in any kind court? No.

by the proof i dont mean the videos and pictures of "nuclear weapon" which supposed to be there, were used as proof to go for iraq war.(ohh and later they didnt find out any...........)

Twin tower had majority of the companies which were engaged to support the wars which were lead by US at various time. Al qaida attacked the heart of US finance, and now you can see the result. Even with more credits/loan US destroyed 2 nation. If they were financially more stablished, God knows how many muslim lands would have been destroyed already by these western crusaders.

according to Western society, killing and injuring millions of afghan/Iraqi civil people were justified just to get one man called osama bin laden(life of 2000 American= more worthy than million of muslims).So those who were helping the killings of million by supporting US with money, to destroy their office some couple of innocent people also died in twin tower tragedy which can also be justified(according to their logic).God will send innocent people in paradise if they are indeed innocent, dont worry about that

the attack wasnt upon civilians i.e. hospital-residence area-school-college.

Al qaida didnt attack on innocents, some innocents were present in the office of "financial depertment of army who kill millions over the world". Either you are with us or against us.Unfortunately those innocents were with those financial helpers.

Just like today in Somalia, al qaida are preventing people who are dying getting food from aid agencies.

They arent preventing anyone.

Muslims bombing their own mosques, what is that about?

Muslims dont.There isnt any evidence.

I am against who by the way? You? Islam?

we gone through various tracks(libya-ghaddafi-bush-Alqaida-osama). so your question isnt relevant at this moment. anyway as a laymen i havent got that much knowledge like every westerner seems to have about the wrold and its political activities, i leave the thread.

PS: english isnt my mother toungue neither 2nd language sister, hope you still understood i meant

[Dwemadayday]

Are you an Al queda supporter too?

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Although Gaddafi was obviously an autocratic dictator, he did reinvest much of Libya’s oil wealth back into the country, transforming it into one of the most well-developed nations in the whole region, which is why a lot of the middle classes in major cities retained their support for the Libyan leader.

All that is set to change now that NATO forces and the central banks that stand behind them will finally get the opportunity to properly plunder Libya for all it has. Living standards will plummet, corrupt strong men will take control with globalist blessings and run the country into the ground for their own good, so long as they allow NATO and US air force bases to be constructed throughout the land.

Save for any last minute counter-attack by Gaddafi forces, the globalist war machine can now focus on toppling its next domino on the road to world domination. Rest assured, whether its Syria, Iran, Pakistan or anywhere else, a suitable hoax will be invented as a pretext for invasion and the western establishment media will slavishly create the perfect narrative for a bloody assault disguised as a humanitarian outreach.


From the very beginning, and in violation of their own resolution, NATO powers armed, funded and trained Al-Qaeda militants who had killed U.S. troops, setting them up to command the rebels in the march towards Tripoli. As the Wall Street Journal reported in a piece entitled, Ex-Mujahedeen Help Lead Libyan Rebels, Al-Qaeda terrorists who worked directly for Bin Laden were tasked with recruiting, training and acting as front line field commanders for the rebel army.

The entire scope of the war was about capturing Libya as another launch pad for further empire building in the Middle East and north Africa, which is why PNAC neo-cons ordered “Peace Laureate” Obama to do it in the first place. The conquest was about securing the richest oil resources in the whole of Africa, it was about stealing 6 billion dollars in gold reserves, and it was about putting a halt to China’s efforts to virtually re-colonize Africa.

[CreativeAcrobate]

The biggest culprits have always been the western kuffar.

They have destroyed whole nations in their thirst and greed for power and money. They have more or less wiped out the native american indians, destroyed the aboriginal australian lifestyle, invaded and occupied middle eastern countries for the all important black gold, manipulated food production in order to control the economy and people, caused more deaths then any terrorist group. yet each time they walk away spotless with a smile on their face because most people are so gullible and manipulated that they believe everything they 'mis' learn in the media. its amazing how stupid people are.

most have forgotten that the WMD in iraq claim was a lie to invade and occupy iraq. as soon as they controlled iraq, the big corporations came in with their rebuilding strategy which was just a veiled way to cart off the riches of iraq.

most have forgotten that they invaded and occupied afghanistan on the pretence to hunt down the mastermind behind 9/11, usama bin laden......eventhough they had no proof of his involvement. and as soon as they occupied afghanistan they built the pipeline to steal the oil from the north and safely bring it back to american soil.

the kuffar are the real terrorists.......not a bunch of goat herders living amongst rocks and caves brandishing decades old rusty ak-47's. its so absurd its almost funny lol. but Allah is the best of all planners. inshallah Allah will take these kuffar down by using goat herders the same way that the soviets were destroyed by goat herders.

lesson is: dont mess with goat herders. they have Allah in their sides inshallah.

[Guloqkcm]

some people need to learn what a tyrant and terrorist actually means. pick up a dictionary and THEN apply the meaning to everyday figures both past and present.

the problem with the Islamophobe with blinkers on who has the mentality of the frog in the well, is that they can't see past their own nose. as long as someone shares the same "morals" (self decided by the way) as them, THEY can never be tyrants or terrorists no matter how much death and destruction they heap on innocent people.

gaddafi = terrorist/tyrant (killed how many? thousands?)
saddam = terrorist/tyrant (killed how many? thouands?)
bush = politician but NO tyrant (killed how many? MILLIONS/HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS)
obama = politican but NO tyrant (killing how many? THOUSANDS AND COUNTING)

that's how the pitiful Islamophobe "rationalises" their warped view of the world.

self righteous tabloid trash reading, x-factor watching simpletons like this really ought to open their eyes a bit more as well as their hearts.....

Just then, MAYBE, just maybe they might get some salvation both here and the hereafter Inshallah.

[disappointment2]

The biggest culprits have always been the western kuffar.

They have destroyed whole nations in their thirst and greed for power and money. They have more or less wiped out the native american indians, destroyed the aboriginal australian lifestyle, invaded and occupied middle eastern countries for the all important black gold, manipulated food production in order to control the economy and people, caused more deaths then any terrorist group. yet each time they walk away spotless with a smile on their face because most people are so gullible and manipulated that they believe everything they 'mis' learn in the media. its amazing how stupid people are.

most have forgotten that the WMD in iraq claim was a lie to invade and occupy iraq. as soon as they controlled iraq, the big corporations came in with their rebuilding strategy which was just a veiled way to cart off the riches of iraq.

most have forgotten that they invaded and occupied afghanistan on the pretence to hunt down the mastermind behind 9/11, usama bin laden......eventhough they had no proof of his involvement. and as soon as they occupied afghanistan they built the pipeline to steal the oil from the north and safely bring it back to american soil.

the kuffar are the real terrorists.......not a bunch of goat herders living amongst rocks and caves brandishing decades old rusty ak-47's. its so absurd its almost funny lol. but Allah is the best of all planners. inshallah Allah will take these kuffar down by using goat herders the same way that the soviets were destroyed by goat herders.

lesson is: dont mess with goat herders. they have Allah in their sides inshallah.

Very true, but this doesn't make of al-Qadhdhafi an hero.

He persecuted Muslims for how long, 40 years? He implement a socialist model whose resolutions, even though some here seem to appreciate, are not due to Islamic ideals of justice, but rather due to socialist anti-Islamic ideology. He has been quoted by many scholar to say things which put him out of the folds of Islam..
And people here celebrate the pseudo-socialist/tyrannical way in which he managed Lybian economy?

I really find problems with this reasoning "he's been attacked by Westerner kuffar, so he must be an hero". Are Soviet Union and Chavez's Venezuela (even though I have simpathy for the latter) "Islamic heroes", too?

[AdipexAdipex]

some people need to learn what a tyrant and terrorist actually means. pick up a dictionary and THEN apply the meaning to everyday figures both past and present.

the problem with the Islamophobe with blinkers on who has the mentality of the frog in the well, is that they can't see past their own nose. as long as someone shares the same "morals" (self decided by the way) as them, THEY can never be tyrants or terrorists no matter how much death and destruction they heap on innocent people.

gaddafi = terrorist/tyrant (killed how many? thousands?)
saddam = terrorist/tyrant (killed how many? thouands?)
bush = politician but NO tyrant (killed how many? MILLIONS/HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS)
obama = politican but NO tyrant (killing how many? THOUSANDS AND COUNTING)

that's how the pitiful Islamophobe "rationalises" their warped view of the world.

self righteous tabloid trash reading, x-factor watching simpletons like this really ought to open their eyes a bit more as well as their hearts.....

Just then, MAYBE, just maybe they might get some salvation both here and the hereafter Inshallah.

I am not getting into a debate with you. I have already reported you to the moderators for offensive personal language against me in another thread that had to be removed.
We all know that this post is directed at me. I am not an Islamaphobe, I never have been. How dare you say that about me. You think you are clever with this post that you havent replied in direct reponse to a post from me. You are to be pitied, your self satisfaction is to be pitied. How does it feel to be so superior to everyone, especially women and westerners? i would like to see you launch an attack on a man in this forum. I dont think you would have the guts.
Your tone and language in this post says everything about your character and personality. You are not a true muslim, that is for sure.

I dont care what you reply in future to anything I say here, i will not dignify it with a response. I will not belittle myself.