[hhynmtrxcp]

What is everybody's opinion on Bashar Al-Assad and his current Baathist government? Do you think that his Alawite beliefs is having an effect on him silencing the protesters with violence? If you oppose his government, does that mean that you are against the 'axis of resistance' that includes Hezbollah and Iran. Or is only for shias to support and sunnis should concentrate on a new syrian government?

I would love to hear everybody's views.

[GeorgeEckland]

What is everybody's opinion on Bashar Al-Assad and his current Baathist government? Do you think that his Alawite beliefs is having an effect on him silencing the protesters with violence? If you oppose his government, does that mean that you are against the 'axis of resistance' that includes Hezbollah and Iran. Or is only for shias to support and sunnis should concentrate on a new syrian government?

I would love to hear everybody's views.

Iran, Hizbullah, and Syrian government = Axis of Shaytan. When they killed Muslims of Hama decades ago, they would write on walls "No God but the nation, no prophet but Al Ba'th" (ba'th party).

Until now this continues.. if you read what the sheikh of Islam Ibn taymiyah said about them, they have always sided against the Muslims and happy if Muslims are defeated. He said they are further from Islam than the "Brahma" of India. And that they are the Qaramitah who tried to steal the black stone.

Watch this video please and you will understand what type of people and kufr we are talking about. These are the people Iran and Hizb Al Shaytan support (hizballah)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT0Fzx8LiGQ

[hhynmtrxcp]

I watched the video and it is simply disgusting!! I really feel for the ahl as-sunnah in Syria. Do you think that Turkey and Saudi will intervene military?? They are strong enough, so why don't they?

[GeorgeEckland]

I watched the video and it is simply disgusting!! I really feel for the ahl as-sunnah in Syria. Do you think that Turkey and Saudi will intervene military?? They are strong enough, so why don't they?

Military support will most likely be through Turkey because of the very long borders. Turkeys support is a must. Saudi and most Muslims countries will help Turkey politically, economically, and maybe even militarily, if they decide to do something. China and Russia are clearly with Al Assad, so the UN cannot be relied on. Also, Turkey is probably secretly afraid of the Kurds trying to establish their own state, and that is probably their major concern.

However, nobody knows how this gang will fall. Who knows, it might be as simple as some individual from the army or something turning against Al Assad. Insha'Allah its only a matter of time.

They are going broke and soon will not be able to pay their employees and gangs. Iran and Hizbullahs support might make it take longer, but insha'Allah the most criminal regime in recent history will fall. Whats happening there is really heart breaking.

Whats surprising too is, that Qaddafi seems to be mentaly retarded, but this person is educated, and when he talks he clearly knows what hes talking about, and therefore is fully aware of how bad these crimes are, yet has no problem continuing them.

[GeorgeEckland]

Here, they turned a school into a torture center, just as they did with cinima halls because of the large numbers detained.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMI_9u4JOQE&feature=player_embedded

[ZZtop]

may Allah destroy Shaytan al-Asad's reigime, and give victory to the Syrian people, and allow the shari'ah to be established there.

[hrthwhr]

I wonder what the views are of the Ulama who even though condemn the killings by the Syrian regime, and allowed peaceful demonstrations, would they now allow a military uprising killing and targetting Syrian soldiers?

[GeorgeEckland]

I wonder what the views are of the Ulama who even though condemn the killings by the Syrian regime, and allowed peaceful demonstrations, would they now allow a military uprising killing and targetting Syrian soldiers?

Sheikh Adnan Arour, a Syrian Sheikh outside of Syria, whos 80+ year old mother was jailed by the regime at one point and made to hear the screams of those torture, always on TV directs protestors, reminds them of being patient for the sake of Allah and to keep everything peaceful, and not create any enemies for no reason, out of anger etc. Now the Syrian government started to call protestors "Arourees" because of him. Protestors chant his name during protests.

I think on the above video his name is mentioned by soldiers, but it wasnt clear.

Smart political decisions require sacrifice and patience. Emotional decisions on the other hand, even though totally justified, arent always the decisions with the best outcome.

On the other hand, Syria is not like any country. This gang is brutal. Saddam is an angel compared to them. They have always been brutal even before protests, and anyone who has been to Syria and experienced this unique atmosphere can feel it clearly.

Peaceful protests brought the attention of the world, made whats happening very clear to everyone despite the lies of the regime, and kept the movement alive, and united all parts of Syrian society, with one target, which is ending the rule of this evil regime.

Random military action from individuals here and there will only divide at this point, each group would have its own representatives and political opinions. The peaceful protests at this point are the strongest weapon, stronger than the guns of Bashar. Bashar wishes he could take their weapon from them, which is why from the beginning he called the people "armed groups". Although the people have no weapons at all. If it becomes only an armed movement, Bashar can easily fight them with planes and weapons they dont have. However, now they have a weapon that he doesnt, peaceful protests, and its driving him crazy, and this weapon shouldnt be just handed to him as a gift.

Maybe later on there can be some military action from the people somehow, in a way that allows them to be united, and not harm the cause. Right now he is becoming weaker and weaker everyday. And hopefully soon will not be able to pay his gangs, especially if Iran feels that he will fall, and no longer send him money or offer any support, whether intelligence or other types.

[GeorgeEckland]

This is the picture of what they'd write on walls during the Hama massacre decades ago, when his father and his gang killed tens of thousands within days in the city.

It says "No god but the nation, no prophet but Al Ba'th" (Al Ba'th party).

[GeorgeEckland]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA_Bu-XObwk&feature=related

[Dwemadayday]

Sheikh Adnan Arour, a Syrian Sheikh outside of Syria, whos 80+ year old mother was jailed by the regime at one point and made to hear the screams of those torture, always on TV directs protestors, reminds them of being patient for the sake of Allah and to keep everything peaceful, and not create any enemies for no reason, out of anger etc. Now the Syrian government started to call protestors "Arourees" because of him. Protestors chant his name during protests.

I think on the above video his name is mentioned by soldiers, but it wasnt clear.

Smart political decisions require sacrifice and patience. Emotional decisions on the other hand, even though totally justified, arent always the decisions with the best outcome.

On the other hand, Syria is not like any country. This gang is brutal. Saddam is an angel compared to them. They have always been brutal even before protests, and anyone who has been to Syria and experienced this unique atmosphere can feel it clearly.

Peaceful protests brought the attention of the world, made whats happening very clear to everyone despite the lies of the regime, and kept the movement alive, and united all parts of Syrian society, with one target, which is ending the rule of this evil regime.

Random military action from individuals here and there will only divide at this point, each group would have its own representatives and political opinions. The peaceful protests at this point are the strongest weapon, stronger than the guns of Bashar. Bashar wishes he could take their weapon from them, which is why from the beginning he called the people "armed groups". Although the people have no weapons at all. If it becomes only an armed movement, Bashar can easily fight them with planes and weapons they dont have. However, now they have a weapon that he doesnt, peaceful protests, and its driving him crazy, and this weapon shouldnt be just handed to him as a gift.

Maybe later on there can be some military action from the people somehow, in a way that allows them to be united, and not harm the cause. Right now he is becoming weaker and weaker everyday. And hopefully soon will not be able to pay his gangs, especially if Iran feels that he will fall, and no longer send him money or offer any support, whether intelligence or other types.

OK. You have removed Assad with the help of NATO and other western nations. Then what ?
You will implement Shariah ? Do you think that the West ( international bankers ) will give you that chance ? They could not tolerate the Islamic court in Somalia.

If you really want to implement Sharia , try to burn down one bank in Saudi Arabia . Then you will see who rules Saudi Arabia. The Saui kings or the internationa bankers ?

The issue is quite complicated. You need to think outside the box of shia-sunni . More on this issue
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[GeorgeEckland]

OK. You have removed Assad with the help of NATO and other western nations. Then what ?
You will implement Shariah ? Do you think that the West ( international bankers ) will give you that chance ? They could not tolerate the Islamic court in Somalia.

If you really want to implement Sharia , try to burn down one bank in Saudi Arabia . Then you will see who rules Saudi Arabia. The Saui kings or the internationa bankers ?

The issue is quite complicated. You need to think outside the box of shia-sunni . More on this issue
is here.
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http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ressed-Muslims
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What does Saudi have to do with the topic? Or is pointing fingers at others a way of defending Iran which was mentioned because of its direct political involvement, not them being Shia? Anyway, burning banks is stupid and not a solution to anything. Islam includes but certainly isnt limited to hudood and banning this or that. Thats why theres much research being done on Islamic economics, and more and more banks are adapting everyday. Thats a more civilized smarter approach.

That said, I didnt mention the word Shia once in all of my replies in this thread. Nor did I mention NATO either.

Its easy to point fingers, however, you didnt mention one solution to the problem. Vague statements like "Sharia is the solution!" has no practical content on the political scene in Syria at this point. Its like going to a hungry person who needs food telling him shariah is the solution. It doesnt offer any solution to the problem. Nor does pointing out conspiracies (whether they are true or not) offer any solution.

As for implementing shariah, also, easier said than done, and NOT because of others, but because of flaws in us, and our research. Read here for more on my opinion on this as its an important yet very rarely discussed topic. http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?76971 If you decide to read it, please do so carefully, as its an important topic Muslims really need to discuss and think about.

[illerlytoindy]

baathest arnet realy with shia because saddam huiesain ( old dictator of iraq) was a baathest and he killed alot of shias invaded a shia contrey of iran but he also killed alot of sunni people as well like the kurds and even iraqi arab sunnies

[Dwemadayday]

What does Saudi have to do with the topic? Or is pointing fingers at others a way of defending Iran which was mentioned because of its direct political involvement, not them being Shia? Anyway, burning banks is stupid and not a solution to anything. Islam includes but certainly isnt limited to hudood and banning this or that. Thats why theres much research being done on Islamic economics, and more and more banks are adapting everyday. Thats a more civilized smarter approach.

Smarter apporach , indeed. The usury-loving bankers know how to modify Islam to accomodate usury-filled banks. They also know how to exploit some hot-air young Muslim men by offering the carrot of sharih based state.

They did such things before in India . And gave us a great sharia based country "Pakistan " !!


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