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Assalamu alaikum
Haz.Mufti Zarwali khan sb db said in his darse tafsor in darse no 6.(timing 1:06:00 to 1:20:00) that Accepting a gift for leading taraweeh is completely permissible.He gave proof for his openion
and Response to those who say that accepting a gift is impermissible.
he opposed evn deoband,nadwa etc,even his teacher mufti wali hasan ra
also said In fact, if a gift is not offered, the punishment of Allah may descend on the people of the locality.
he also said that is present time lowwest gift for tarawih is 30000 rs,medium is 80000 and 1,20,000 acording to that hadis which he gave as a proof(hadis of abu saeed khudri rd-bukhari)
we cut that part of darse.its here
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Assalamu alaikum
Haz.Mufti Zarwali khan sb db said in his darse tafsor in darse no 6.(timing 1:06:00 to 1:20:00) that Accepting a gift for leading taraweeh is completely permissible.He gave proof for his openion
and Response to those who say that accepting a gift is impermissible.
he opposed evn deoband,nadwa etc,even his teacher mufti wali hasan ra
also said In fact, if a gift is not offered, the punishment of Allah may descend on the people of the locality.
he also said that is present time lowwest gift for tarawih is 30000 rs,medium is 80000 and 1,20,000 acording to that hadis which he gave as a proof(hadis of abu saeed khudri rd-bukhari)
we cut that part of darse.its here
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mufti sab said that all who gave fatwa against his openion,they all taken it from shaami and shaami took it from a person who is motazili.

[Olympicdreams]

mufti sab said that all who gave fatwa against his openion,they all taken it from shaami and shaami took it from a person who is motazili.

This is one of those masail where he is really mistaken. Neither did Ibn Abidin or any one else take this from the Mu'tazilah.

[xgnuwdd]

This is one of those masail where he is really mistaken. Neither did Ibn Abidin or any one else take this from the Mu'tazilah.

Mufti Sahib, what is the position of the Hanafi Madh-hab regarding accepting gift / donations for leading Taraweeh?

[CreativeAcrobate]

what about demanding payment? is that allowed?

im assuming that receiving a gift and asking for payment are 2 different things here.

[saumemeva]

Is it not okay to take gifts for Tarawih?

[aburva.org]

This is one of those masail where he is really mistaken. Neither did Ibn Abidin or any one else take this from the Mu'tazilah.

assalamu alaikum
so if he is wrong,so why mufti wali hasan sb ra who is mufti e aazam in his time and shaikhul hadis in allama binnori 's darululum accept it and ruju from his na jaiz call
and why moulana rizwan nadwi accepted his openion and wrote ut in his famous book alqamusul fiqh?

[hrthwhr]

A relevant quote from from Fayd al-Bari by Allama Kashmiri:

واعلم أن ههنا مسألتين: الأولى: أخذُ الأُجْرَةِ على تعليم القرآن، والأذان، والإقامة. ولا يَجُوزُ فيها أخذُ الأُجْرَةِ على المذهب، وإن أَفْتَى المتأخِّرون بجوازها. وتعليلُ صاحب «الهداية» يُوجِبُ عدم الجواز مطلقًا، وحينئذٍ استثناء المتأخِّرين يصَادِمُ المذهبَ صراحةً. نم يُسْتَفَادُ من تعليل قاضيخان: أن استثناءَ الأشياءِ المذكورةِ يُتَحَمَّلُ على المذهب أيضًا، فقال: إن الوظائفَ في الزمان الماضي كانت على بيت المال. ولمَّا انْعَدَمَ، عادت الفريضة على رقاب الناس، وعليه الاعتمادُ عندي. لأن رتبةَ قاضيخان أعلى من «الهداية»، كما صرَّح به العلامة القاسم بن قُطْلُوبُغَا.
والثانية: مسألةُ الأجرة على التعوُّذ، والرُّقْيَة، وهي حلالٌ لعدم كونها عبادةً.
قلتُ: ويتفرَّعُ على الأولى أن لا يَصِحَّ أخذُ الأُجْرَةِ على قراءة القرآن للميت، لأن الأجيرَ إذا لم يُحْرِزْ ثوابَ القراءة، فكيف يُعْطِيه للميت؟ نعم لو كان الخَتْمُ لمطالب دنيوية، طاب له الأُجْرَةُ، هكذا نَقَلَهُ الشاميُّ، وشيَّده بنقولٍ كثيرةٍ من أهل المذهب. وقد أَخْرَجْتُ الجواز من ثلاث كُتُبٍ للحنفية: منها «التفسير» للشاه عبد العزيز، فإنه ليَّنَ الكلامَ، وأجاز به.
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ثم إن تلك الكُتُب، وإن كانت مرجوحةً من حيث الأصل، لكنه من دَأْبي القديم: أنه إذا ثَبَتَ التنوُّعُ في المسألة أُلَيِّنُ الكلامَ، وأَسْلُكُ مسلكَ الإِغماض، ولذا أُغْمِضُ عن تلك المسألة أيضًا. وما ظَنَّهُ بعضُ السفهاء من أن المنعَ فيما إذا أخذ الأُجْرَةَ أقل من أربعين دِرْهمًا، ونَسَبُوه إلى «المبسوط» فهو كذبٌ محضٌ، وافتراءٌ لا أصلَ له. ثم إذا عوَّذ كافرًا، ورأى أن عُوذَتَهُ تَشْتَمِلُ على كلماتٍ لا تَلِيقُ بشأن الكافر، ينبغي أن ينوي منها البركة فقط
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2276 - قوله: (حتى تَجْعَلُوا لنا جُعْلا)، وقد مرَّ مني: أن أخذَ الأَجْرِ على قراءة القرآن للحوائج الدنيوية جائزٌ. بَقَيَ التعليمُ، ففيه أيضًا توسيعٌ على ما علَّل به قاضيخان. أما أخذُ الأُجْرَةِ على إيصال الثواب للميت، فلي فيه تردُّد شديدٌ، وأكُفُّ عنه لساني

So Ml. Anwar Shah Kashmiri admits the issue is not so simple and he does not call reciting qur'an for the deceased and taking money for it haraam. He withholds his ruling on this issue because of the taraddud.

So in short: taking money as an imam, teacher of qur'an, mu'adhin was forbidden according to the early hanafi scholars. However, later scholars give permission with the reasoning that they were given money from the bayt al-mal. So why the exception for those who recite the qur'an, while money can be given to the teacher of the qur'an, imam, mu'adhin etc?

While most of the Muftis prescribe the heela of appointing the same person to pray 1 or 2 prayers a day in order to give him money?

[Bxbhtjnr]

There was a thread about it with brother Saa'd and Maulana eTeacher. The search engine is acting up again otherwise I might have found it.

[perpelverw]

There's also a whole booklet on the issue by Mufti Zarwali Khan sahab [hafizahullah] on their website.

[aburva.org]

There's also a whole booklet on the issue by Mufti Zarwali Khan sahab [hafizahullah] on their website.

where in website?
i m searhing since yesterday,but failed

[Olympicdreams]

assalamu alaikum
so if he is wrong,so why mufti wali hasan sb ra who is mufti e aazam in his time and shaikhul hadis in allama binnori 's darululum accept it and ruju from his na jaiz call
and why moulana rizwan nadwi accepted his openion and wrote ut in his famous book alqamusul fiqh?

Ask yourself if your logic above makes sense.
In short, you are saying, that if a person holds a view completely contrary to others, then as long as 2 others (one being a senior Mufti) agree with him, then he cannot be wrong.

[irrascaft]

My local masjid collects money to give as a gift to the huffaz who lead tarawih. If someone could find that old thread mentioned earlier, I would appreciate it.

[aburva.org]

Ask yourself if your logic above makes sense.
In short, you are saying, that if a person holds a view completely contrary to others, then as long as 2 others (one being a senior Mufti) agree with him, then he cannot be wrong.

sorry,you r our big and our beloved amir but i m not agree
plz dont understand that i m in favour of mufti zarwali sb but those proof which he gave,i cant find his answer,even while mufti wali hasan ra is agree with him.

[Fgunehjf]

where in website?
i m searhing since yesterday,but failed

http://www.4shared.com/get/gS4K7Wge/...ti_Zar_Wa.html

[aburva.org]

My local masjid collects money to give as a gift to the huffaz who lead tarawih. If someone could find that old thread mentioned earlier, I would appreciate it.

thats najaiz withoput any proof,our discussion is about those gifts which given by any one without force

[irrascaft]

thats najaiz withoput any proof,our discussion is about those gifts which given by any one without force

sorry, I don't understand what you mean here exactly.

[saumemeva]

Could someone please let me know whether or not it is permissible for a person to be gifted for leading Taraweeh, and if he can accept payment for teaching Quran? It's very important.

[avaincmolla]

There was a thread about it with brother Saa'd and Maulana eTeacher. The search engine is acting up again otherwise I might have found it.

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ading-taraweeh

[Bxbhtjnr]

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ading-taraweeh

Yeah there it is,