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[hrotedk]

Please brother, it's the month of Ramadhaan.

[stuck_in_WA]

Please brother, it's the month of Ramadhaan.

for reminder. But I couldn't restrain myself after observing that site.

[stuck_in_WA]

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[PRengine]

How funny that these Barelvis are trying to comprehend what the Genuis Hazarat Maulana Qasim Nanotvi R.A has written. They should be told that first at least bring your intellect to his level and then know the quality of Urdu he use to write in, and then dare to pass a judgement whether his writing is kufr or not.

[arriplify]

How funny that these Barelvis are trying to comprehend what the Genuis Hazarat Maulana Qasim Nanotvi R.A has written. They should be told that first at least bring your intellect to his level and then know the quality of Urdu he use to write in, and then dare to pass a judgement whether his writing is kufr or not.

pir baba i will tell u 1 saying : baap to andhere mein chala gaya aur bachoon ka naam RELIANCE hai

now when u can understand what qasim has said then u can understand what is the meaning of above saying.

and about funny barelvis ,then to increase ur knowledge .kasim,ismail,ashraf.....were given kufr fatawa from harmain sharefain (mecca madina) and that also 140 ulema . may b all these ulema did not understood what u all did ?
after eating CROWS u all have started to behave like CROW
and u know if feed the crow with very nice food but then too he will into the gutter
phir milenge

[HornyMolly]

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after eating CROWS u all have started to behave like CROW
and u know if feed the crow with very nice food but then too he will into the gutter
phir milenge

Is that how you would reply to Imam Malik r.a for allowing crows?

No never mind, when it comes to that then all you will think about is Imam Saheb ki Taqleed. Halat is such that you dont even follow Imam Saheb's qawl in this matter!

[w3QHxwNb]

pir baba i will tell u 1 saying : baap to andhere mein chala gaya aur bachoon ka naam RELIANCE hai

now when u can understand what qasim has said then u can understand what is the meaning of above saying.

and about funny barelvis ,then to increase ur knowledge .kasim,ismail,ashraf.....were given kufr fatawa from harmain sharefain (mecca madina) and that also 140 ulema . may b all these ulema did not understood what u all did ?
after eating CROWS u all have started to behave like CROW
and u know if feed the crow with very nice food but then too he will into the gutter
phir milenge

Please show the fatwa and also their Rujoo'.

Secondly, please tell us why Mirza Ahmed Raza Khan was banned from Haramain.

Thirdly, please answer this:

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post648798

Fourth, LEARN SOME MANNERS. ADOPT SOME MADANI AKHLAQ... OR STOP CALLING YOURSELF MADANI!

[PRengine]

pir baba i will tell u 1 saying : baap to andhere mein chala gaya aur bachoon ka naam RELIANCE hai

now when u can understand what qasim has said then u can understand what is the meaning of above saying.

and about funny barelvis ,then to increase ur knowledge .kasim,ismail,ashraf.....were given kufr fatawa from harmain sharefain (mecca madina) and that also 140 ulema . may b all these ulema did not understood what u all did ?
after eating CROWS u all have started to behave like CROW
and u know if feed the crow with very nice food but then too he will into the gutter
phir milenge

I will not even spend a sec answering the kufr fatwa and other typical kattar barelvi blablabla, enough times knowledgeable brothers have answered them here in such detail that now just the thought to attempt on this is tiring. My advice is, take some time out from Sunniforum, do some indepth research with an unbiased mind. Thori himmat karni paray gi baap dada kay deen ko aik unbiased aur critical tarhan say dekhnay kay liya. Phir inshAllah jab is baat ka dam aye ga phir Allah pak is himmat karnay par Aqal ko kholain gay, aur phir deobandiyat bhi samajh main ayee gi, warna zindagi guzar jayee gi aur palay kuch na aye ga.Is tang gali main kab tak phansay raho gay meray bhai, tum azad paida hway thay aur yeh baralviat ka pata jo phen rakha hai na, issay nikalnay ki karo, aur bhuguz aur keenay kay jangaloun aur kaid khano say nikal kar tauheed aur sunnat ki sabaz wadiyoun main phiro. Allah mujhay bhi aur tumhain bhi taufeeq day.Urdu main islya aakhiri naseehat likhi hai kay zyada logoun ko samajh na ayee, aur baat tumharay aur humaray main reh jayee aur palay bhi par jaye. Umeed hai MODs issay dar guzar kar dain gay.

[pkxlugbsbv]

Brothers its Ramadan. Maintain our cool. Don't let shaytaan sow distrust among us.

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...nth-of-Ramadan

[stuck_in_WA]

@ bro Azhar et al.:

Ramadhan has been passed away.

And we are back in action.

[pkxlugbsbv]

@ bro Azhar et al.:

Ramadhan has been passed away.

And we are back in action.

bro,

Aren't we supposed to 'try' to continue with our good habits we gained during the month of Ramadan.
Don't worry what the brelvi's are upto. Sometimes they are right some times they are wrong, So is Deobandi or Salafi. None of the mentioned groups can say they 'alone' are in Haqq.

I personally have a hard time myself fulfilling my Fard duties, So count me out of this 'action'.

[stuck_in_WA]

bro,

Aren't we supposed to 'try' to continue with our good habits we gained during the month of Ramadan.

What??? Will you again post your reminders during our valuable discussions (i.e. skirmish)?
(Please don't be offended, bro. I was kidding.)

Don't worry what the brelvi's are upto. Sometimes they are right some times they are wrong, So is Deobandi or Salafi. None of the mentioned groups can say they 'alone' are in Haqq. Deoband is the synonym of Haq. Barelwis are deviants. That's all.

I personally have a hard time myself fulfilling my Fard duties, So count me out of this 'action'. Look bro, Deen means not only Amaal. There are many other forms also. Defending deviants is a great khidmah. Because they misguide a plenty of general people and spread Bidat.

[pkxlugbsbv]

What??? Will you again post your reminders during our valuable discussions (i.e. skirmish)?
(Please don't be offended, bro. I was kidding.)

Lol, yes

Look bro, Deen means not only Amaal. There are many other forms also. Defending deviants is a great khidmah. Because they misguide a plenty of general people and spread Bidat. Yes guiding people in the right path is a really good deed. I m not very knowledgeable so i can barely make definitive statements on such matters, also i personally think adab should always be maintained. (its ironic that this comes from me, who has a bad temper problem in real life). Perhaps we should discuss about the 'deviations' more and less about the 'deviants', just to be on the safer side.

[pkxlugbsbv]

There have been instances when Sahabah differed and both sides have been right. Only problem now is we are not blessed with the presence of Rasoolullah to remove such doubt. But ofcourse innovations not accordance with Islam should be rejected and corrected.

Miswar ibn Makhramah and Abdur Rahman ibn Abdul Qari said that they heard Umar (RA) ibn al-Khattab say:
‘In the days of the Prophet (SAW)“I passed by Hisham ibn Hakim ibn Hizam while he was reciting surah al-Furqan. I heard his recital and he was reciting in many readings that Allah’s Messenger(SAW) had not taught me. I very nearly quarrelled with him while he was engaged in salah, but checked myself till he finished. When he turned in salutation, I put his cloak over him and asked him, “Who taught you this surah that I heard you recite (now)?”

He said, “Allah’s Messenger (SAW) taught it to me.”

I said, “You lie. By Allah, surely Allah’s Messenger (SAW) also taught me this surah.”

So, I dragged him to Allah’s Messenger (SAW) and said, “O Messenger of Allah(SAW) , I heard him recite surah al-Furqan in a reading that you have not taught me while you did teach me surah al-Furqan.”

So, the Prophet (SAW) said, “Free him, O Umar (RA) . And recite, O Hisham !" So, he recited in the reading that I had heard. The Prophet (SAW) said, “It was revealed in this manner.” Then he asked me to recite. So I did recite as he had taught me and he said, “This is how it was revealed.’ Then he said, “Surely this Quran is revealed in seven readings. So recite that which is easy for you.”
[Ahmed 277,Bukhari 2419,Muslim 818,Nisai 932]

[stuck_in_WA]

There have been instances when Sahabah differed and both sides have been right. Only problem now is we are not blessed with the presence of Rasoolullah to remove such doubt. But ofcourse innovations not accordance with Islam should be rejected and corrected.

Miswar ibn Makhramah and Abdur Rahman ibn Abdul Qari said that they heard Umar (RA) ibn al-Khattab say:
‘In the days of the Prophet (SAW)“I passed by Hisham ibn Hakim ibn Hizam while he was reciting surah al-Furqan. I heard his recital and he was reciting in many readings that Allah’s Messenger(SAW) had not taught me. I very nearly quarrelled with him while he was engaged in salah, but checked myself till he finished. When he turned in salutation, I put his cloak over him and asked him, “Who taught you this surah that I heard you recite (now)?”

He said, “Allah’s Messenger (SAW) taught it to me.”

I said, “You lie. By Allah, surely Allah’s Messenger (SAW) also taught me this surah.”

So, I dragged him to Allah’s Messenger (SAW) and said, “O Messenger of Allah(SAW) , I heard him recite surah al-Furqan in a reading that you have not taught me while you did teach me surah al-Furqan.”

So, the Prophet (SAW) said, “Free him, O Umar (RA) . And recite, O Hisham !" So, he recited in the reading that I had heard. The Prophet (SAW) said, “It was revealed in this manner.” Then he asked me to recite. So I did recite as he had taught me and he said, “This is how it was revealed.’ Then he said, “Surely this Quran is revealed in seven readings. So recite that which is easy for you.”
[Ahmed 277,Bukhari 2419,Muslim 818,Nisai 932]

for your post. But bro, it's an example of validity of different madhahib. It's not applicable for Barelwis.
I'm requesting you to observe their innovations. I'm quite sure, you won't be able to tolerate as a real muslim.

[pkxlugbsbv]

for your post. But bro, it's an example of validity of different madhahib. It's not applicable for Barelwis.
I'm requesting you to observe their innovations. I'm quite sure, you won't be able to tolerate as a real muslim.

Ok, I ll watch out for it.

[ZZtop]

Deoband is the synonym of Haq. Barelwis are deviants. That's all.

التعصب بعينه

[9enackivegliva]

التعصب بعينه

He never said haq doesn't have other synonyms.

عيد مبارك

[Obebtetibre]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم
اسلام علیکم

Astaghferullah! Astaghferullah!.

I can't believe that people, who belong to the same school, call and accuse each other of 'Kufr' so easily. No offence to brewli brothers but I've noticed that most of the time the extreme comes from them.

O Allah unite the Brelwe and Deobandis and all Muslims.