[zlZ95pjt]

Assalam-O-Alaikum!

I didn't know much about Sufism when I took Bay'ah (oath of allegiance). He just gave me some dhikr to do. But few months after that I started reading about Tasawwuf from the basics & I really got confused to some of the terminologies. It was quite tough to understand all of them. Anyhow... my Sheikh comes to my city every winter means Dec - Jan. So, 1 day he told me few things & I said, O man! he knows everything about me. And I am now too much scared of him.
Well, I am trying to remove lacks in me so that I could talk to my Sheikh in very confident way.

[w3QHxwNb]

Please give some examples of what kind of things he told you about your past.

[zlZ95pjt]

Please give some examples of what kind of things he told you about your past.

Obviously he told me those which were involved in my life. He didn't disclosed in full way, he just gave u may say some hints.

[w3QHxwNb]

Khair...

It's not very difficult nor very special to tell someone of the past. INfact if my shaikh tells me about my past, i would get thinking that the Shaikh is not a Shaikh but a Jadoogar.

I asked you for examples because then we will know what he told you about ur past, what was teh reason? Was it somethign related to doing ur islah and was it very important to tell you and did he get kashf about it?

OR

Was it a matter of using Jinns..

[zlZ95pjt]

Khair...

It's not very difficult nor very special to tell someone of the past. INfact if my shaikh tells me about my past, i would get thinking that the Shaikh is not a Shaikh but a Jadoogar.

I asked you for examples because then we will know what he told you about ur past, what was teh reason? Was it somethign related to doing ur islah and was it very important to tell you and did he get kashf about it?

OR

Was it a matter of using Jinns..

Sheikh definitely do Islah fro me he is my Teacher to learn Deen.
Once I asked him about the Kashf & he told that Kashf is the First step. For Jinns he said, Taking Work from Satan & Jinns is strictly against Sharia.

[w3QHxwNb]

Sheikh definitely do Islah fro me he is my Teacher to learn Deen.
Once I asked him about the Kashf & he told that Kashf is the First step. For Jinns he said, Taking Work from Satan & Jinns is strictly against Sharia.

Kashf is the first step?

To what?

[zlZ95pjt]

Kashf is the first step?

To what?

To Sufism

[BGThomasis]

Sheikh definitely do Islah fro me he is my Teacher to learn Deen.
Once I asked him about the Kashf & he told that Kashf is the First step. For Jinns he said, Taking Work from Satan & Jinns is strictly against Sharia.

This perfectly normal if your shiekh tells you a bit about your past. Dont forget we are the ummat of prophet muhammad Saw and not limited to the ummati of the other prophets. I can understand if you think like most people they have got jinns etc to tell you about things. As you may know about the story of prophet musa A.S when he got his prophet hood and his ego kicked in thinking he had all the knowledge, then Hazrat Khizr A,S came and told him things that even prophet musa didnt know about and explained to him yes you maybe prophet of allah swt but the friends of allah can communicate directly, this Ilm Is Known As Ilm-e-Laduni. The ilm you have doesnt mean i must have it but what i have doesnt mean i have to have yours. Hazrat khizr badshah was ummati of prophet muhammad saw and took bayt spiritually with prophet muhammad saw and didnt marry or do anything but look after his mother in syria and submitted him self to allah swt. the example im giving is there is divine knowledge that has been based down through the tariqa and this divine knowledge is gained through sufism or transfered from your shiekh to you when giving bayt but its down to our indivisual ibaadat to unluck those within ourselves. Oh just to make clear ilm-e-laduni is the highest ranked ilm one can gain in sufism not to say his shiekh has it but there our others divine ilms aswell.

Jazallah

[zlZ95pjt]

This perfectly normal if your shiekh tells you a bit about your past. Dont forget we are the ummat of prophet muhammad Saw and not limited to the ummati of the other prophets. I can understand if you think like most people they have got jinns etc to tell you about things. As you may know about the story of prophet musa A.S when he got his prophet hood and his ego kicked in thinking he had all the knowledge, then Hazrat Khizr A,S came and told him things that even prophet musa didnt know about and explained to him yes you maybe prophet of allah swt but the friends of allah can communicate directly, this Ilm Is Known As Ilm-e-Laduni. The ilm you have doesnt mean i must have it but what i have doesnt mean i have to have yours. Hazrat khizr badshah was ummati of prophet muhammad saw and took bayt spiritually with prophet muhammad saw and didnt marry or do anything but look after his mother in syria and submitted him self to allah swt. the example im giving is there is divine knowledge that has been based down through the tariqa and this divine knowledge is gained through sufism or transfered from your shiekh to you when giving bayt but its down to our indivisual ibaadat to unluck those within ourselves. Oh just to make clear ilm-e-laduni is the highest ranked ilm one can gain in sufism not to say his shiekh has it but there our others divine ilms aswell.

Jazallah

Jazak Allah, Thanx for sharing

[w3QHxwNb]

This perfectly normal if your shiekh tells you a bit about your past. Dont forget we are the ummat of prophet muhammad Saw and not limited to the ummati of the other prophets. I can understand if you think like most people they have got jinns etc to tell you about things. As you may know about the story of prophet musa A.S when he got his prophet hood and his ego kicked in thinking he had all the knowledge, then Hazrat Khizr A,S came and told him things that even prophet musa didnt know about and explained to him yes you maybe prophet of allah swt but the friends of allah can communicate directly, this Ilm Is Known As Ilm-e-Laduni. The ilm you have doesnt mean i must have it but what i have doesnt mean i have to have yours. Hazrat khizr badshah was ummati of prophet muhammad saw and took bayt spiritually with prophet muhammad saw and didnt marry or do anything but look after his mother in syria and submitted him self to allah swt. the example im giving is there is divine knowledge that has been based down through the tariqa and this divine knowledge is gained through sufism or transfered from your shiekh to you when giving bayt but its down to our indivisual ibaadat to unluck those within ourselves. Oh just to make clear ilm-e-laduni is the highest ranked ilm one can gain in sufism not to say his shiekh has it but there our others divine ilms aswell.

Jazallah

Why is it perfectly normal?

How do we know its kashf and he's not using jinns?

[BGThomasis]

Im just giving that brother a idea that not everything been told from one shiekh has to be linked with jinns. i havent met his shiekh so cant question if he using jinns or its divine ilm. Like i said there are many different types of ilm gained through sufism and each give that indivisual certain knowledge dependin on there love and ibaadat. But if that brothers Says his sheikh name i be gladly to respond regarding it as ive spent most of my life with different peers and sheikh and grateful for it for me finding my shiekh and path to becoming better muslim and closer to prophet muhammad saw and allah swt.

[rionetrozasa]

Run as fast as you can, from this so called teacher.

[BGThomasis]

Why is it perfectly normal?

How do we know its kashf and he's not using jinns?

Im glad that your asking more questions regarding it as my sheikh says people or youngsters as ourselves want proof or evidence and wont believe until they see for them selves. if you know more about ilm-e-laduni goto my website.http://medinaghosia.com/index.php/si...ia/ilm-e-ludni.

And if have time read the biography of my sheikh and you will understand better. we are all here on these forums to ask questions and gain asnwers and expand our islamic knowledge.

To test if he is kamal shiekh or not there is sumthing you can recite but i cant remmember what it was once i do i post it on here. You have to recite it 15 times and once you are in there presence blow or pretend to yawn and when you do if he is true sheikh will smile back if not he will feel really uncomfortable and leave the room asap. ive tested we ppl few yrs back when i was taught from my sheikh in pakistan lol as you got alot of fraudsters and jaadogar. inshallah my memory serves me right post on here asap.

[w3QHxwNb]

Im glad that your asking more questions regarding it as my sheikh says people or youngsters as ourselves want proof or evidence and wont believe until they see for them selves. if you know more about ilm-e-laduni goto my website.http://medinaghosia.com/index.php/si...ia/ilm-e-ludni.

And if have time read the biography of my sheikh and you will understand better. we are all here on these forums to ask questions and gain asnwers and expand our islamic knowledge.

Hazrat,

I know about all this. I believe in kashfs and everything.

But tell me, why would a shaikh tell a person about his past?

and

How do we differentiate about it?

I had a relative who pretended to be a big shaikh. I was very close to him. He was a mushrik, a shia.. and Allah knows what. But he pretended to be a big buzurg. He also would tell you about your past. He told one of my friends about where he went to do Zina. The friend was very impressed and became his mureed.

So my question, how do you differentiate and whats the use of telling people's pasts? Do we have any example of this from our Akaabir of telling people's pasts?

[BGThomasis]

Your right brother i would only tell someone about the past to make them believe but what your saying is true aswell that people can tell you about the past. Soon as i remember the ayat how to check if he a proper shiekh not fraudster i post on here for you guys to test for your self. im trying hard atm to bring it back to memory. What i see is that your friend shouldnt have became a mureed just like that.You need to have look if he read 5 time salah, follows the sunnah of prophet, Has knowledge of quran and hadees and is able to answer your questions qutoing from quran etc. Does he follow the 5 pillars of islam, what are his believes and aqeeda. What tariqa is he from what is there golden chain you need to check on all these things then become mureed. even the none muslims can tell you about your past etc does it mean there religion is right it doesnt.

[bestonlinepharmasy2]

tariqa
golden chain
mureed
religion

[avarberickibe]

As you may know about the story of prophet musa A.S when he got his prophet hood and his ego kicked in thinking he had all the knowledge, then Hazrat Khizr A,S came and told him things that even prophet musa didnt know about and explained to him yes you maybe prophet of allah swt but the friends of allah can communicate directly, this Ilm Is Known As Ilm-e-Laduni. The ilm you have doesnt mean i must have it but what i have doesnt mean i have to have yours. Hazrat khizr badshah was ummati of prophet muhammad saw and took bayt spiritually with prophet muhammad saw and didnt marry or do anything but look after his mother in syria and submitted him self to allah swt. the example im giving is there is divine knowledge that has been based down through the tariqa and this divine knowledge is gained through sufism or transfered from your shiekh to you when giving bayt but its down to our indivisual ibaadat to unluck those within ourselves. Oh just to make clear ilm-e-laduni is the highest ranked ilm one can gain in sufism not to say his shiekh has it but there our others divine ilms aswell.

Jazallah

Dear brother

pls show respect when mentioning prophets (bold parts).
Who is Hazrat khizr badshah ? are you referring to Hazrat Owais Qarni (RA)