LOGO
Reply to Thread New Thread
Old 08-31-2011, 10:37 PM   #1
hernkingAnank

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
393
Senior Member
Default News: muslim sisters banned from amusement park ride
Asalamu alaikum Everyone and Eid Mubarak once again...

I saw this on yahoo news this morning...
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/new-york...123309825.html
hernkingAnank is offline


Old 08-31-2011, 11:17 PM   #2
w3QHxwNb

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
530
Senior Member
Default
Asalamu alaikum Everyone and Eid Mubarak once again...


Who told her to go to amusement parks displaying her face in the first place? That's not very islamic.
w3QHxwNb is offline


Old 08-31-2011, 11:18 PM   #3
AdipexAdipex

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
444
Senior Member
Default
I think she deserved what she got. It is not a befitting for a muslimah to bark like dogs. This is yet another example instead of taking postive action, one resorts to confrontation apporach.
What would you have done?
AdipexAdipex is offline


Old 08-31-2011, 11:48 PM   #4
9enackivegliva

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
410
Senior Member
Default


So many Islamophobic and redneck comments on that page.

Those sisters did violate safety rules and I agree that the authorities were right in escorting them off the property. The authorities had apparently forewarned the event organizers and either they failed to forward the safety rules or the sister failed to obey (in which case it is 100% her fault). There are times when authorities do act in an Islamophobic manner. This was not one of those times.
9enackivegliva is offline


Old 08-31-2011, 11:49 PM   #5
soineeLom

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
328
Senior Member
Default
This has nothing to do with the Head scarf in specific! Its about policy Period.
soineeLom is offline


Old 08-31-2011, 11:56 PM   #6
AdipexAdipex

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
444
Senior Member
Default
This has nothing to do with the Head scarf in specific! Its about policy Period.
Agreed
AdipexAdipex is offline


Old 09-01-2011, 12:01 AM   #7
aabbaDE

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
329
Senior Member
Default
funny how british theme parks never have flying hijabs
aabbaDE is offline


Old 09-01-2011, 02:10 AM   #8
cefunonge

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
322
Senior Member
Default


The more islamophobic westerners get, the more stupid muslims get.
cefunonge is offline


Old 09-01-2011, 02:18 AM   #9
PaulCameron

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
337
Senior Member
Default
To think that all of this happened because of a roller coaster ride...
PaulCameron is offline


Old 09-01-2011, 06:58 AM   #10
PetrZimin

Join Date
Oct 2005
Location
ISRAEL
Age
63
Posts
404
Senior Member
Default


Who told her to go to amusement parks displaying her face in the first place? That's not very islamic.
Oh my gosh, that is really sad that you are serious & so incredibly ignorant. There is NOTHING in the Qur'an that commands women to hide their faces. What is wrong with you? There is nothing un-Islamic about showing her face. You must not live in the United States.
PetrZimin is offline


Old 09-01-2011, 07:01 AM   #11
w3QHxwNb

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
530
Senior Member
Default
Oh my gosh, that is really sad that you are serious & so incredibly ignorant. There is NOTHING in the Qur'an that commands women to hide their faces. What is wrong with you? There is nothing un-Islamic about showing her face. You must not live in the United States.
Sorry for being ignorant. Really sorry.

I wasn't as fortunate to be born with all the information and knowledge of the world.

If I show you in the Quran then you will accept it?

Secondly, it's not very nice to show your FACE to the whole world. It's your beauty, it's valuable, you can't show it to everyone.

Would you carry your money out in the open or hide it inside a locker in the bank?
w3QHxwNb is offline


Old 09-01-2011, 07:09 AM   #12
CreativeAcrobate

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
407
Senior Member
Default
You must not live in the United States.
what does that have anything to do with the availability of cheese in kazakhstan?
CreativeAcrobate is offline


Old 09-01-2011, 07:17 AM   #13
PetrZimin

Join Date
Oct 2005
Location
ISRAEL
Age
63
Posts
404
Senior Member
Default
No, I said "You must not live in the United States." in response to the member named Taliban who stated, "Who told her to go to amusement parks displaying her face in the first place? That's not very islamic." No where in the Qur'an does it states that it is a requirement in Islam for a woman to cover her face. We also know this from the fact that covering up ones face when on Hajj or Umrah is not allowed. Now, if a woman chooses to do so....that is up to her...but Islam does not require it. I wasn't commenting on the availability of cheese in Kazakhstan
PetrZimin is offline


Old 09-01-2011, 07:22 AM   #14
PetrZimin

Join Date
Oct 2005
Location
ISRAEL
Age
63
Posts
404
Senior Member
Default
Sorry for being ignorant. Really sorry.

I wasn't as fortunate to be born with all the information and knowledge of the world.

If I show you in the Quran then you will accept it?

Secondly, it's not very nice to show your FACE to the whole world. It's your beauty, it's valuable, you can't show it to everyone.

Would you carry your money out in the open or hide it inside a locker in the bank?
Elizabeth: Yes, tell me which verse in the Qur'an states that because I don't believe you. It's not very "nice" to show ones face to the whole world? Well, you're entitled to your own opinion. Covering up ones face when on Hajj or Umrah is not allowed. Now, if a woman chooses to do so....that is up to her...but Islam does not require it. A no man has the right to force a woman to wear niqab.
PetrZimin is offline


Old 09-01-2011, 07:24 AM   #15
CreativeAcrobate

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
407
Senior Member
Default
No, I said "You must not live in the United States." in response to the member named Taliban who stated, "Who told her to go to amusement parks displaying her face in the first place? That's not very islamic." No where in the Qur'an does it states that it is a requirement in Islam for a woman to cover her face. We also know this from the fact that covering up ones face when on Hajj or Umrah is not allowed. Now, if a woman chooses to do so....that is up to her...but Islam does not require it. I wasn't commenting on the availability of cheese in Kazakhstan
i meant what does not living in usa have to do with anything?
CreativeAcrobate is offline


Old 09-01-2011, 07:24 AM   #16
w3QHxwNb

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
530
Senior Member
Default
What are your sources of Islam?

Do you accept only Quran or you will accept Hadith also?
w3QHxwNb is offline


Old 09-01-2011, 07:26 AM   #17
w3QHxwNb

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
530
Senior Member
Default
i meant what does not living in usa have to do with anything?
It means since you are not in USA that is why you are so ignorant, evil and jungli that you make women wear Niqabs.

If you were in USA you would have been civilized enough to only rape innocent young girls not force women to wear Niqabs.
w3QHxwNb is offline


Old 09-01-2011, 07:27 AM   #18
PetrZimin

Join Date
Oct 2005
Location
ISRAEL
Age
63
Posts
404
Senior Member
Default
i meant what does not living in usa have to do with anything?
Because you have no first-hand experience of Islam in America, what the American mentality/culture is or what it's like being a Muslim in America. It's completely different over here from the Middle East. Things are not the same over here as in the M.E.
PetrZimin is offline


Old 09-01-2011, 07:34 AM   #19
PetrZimin

Join Date
Oct 2005
Location
ISRAEL
Age
63
Posts
404
Senior Member
Default
It means since you are not in USA that is why you are so ignorant, evil and jungli that you make women wear Niqabs.

If you were in USA you would have been civilized enough to only rape innocent young girls not force women to wear Niqabs.
Wow, you're totally taking my comments out of context & twisting them around for your own purposes. No, America is not perfect. There are good & bad things that happen in every country. Rape & sexual abuse occurs in Muslim countries too....to women who wear hijabs & niqabs. Sexual assault is not about sex....it's about the power that humans are trying to wield over other human beings. I know a Palestinian Muslim woman who was raped by her own brother after their father passed away. How disgusting is that?

Don't try to change the subject. I didn't say that you're evil & jungli. I said you're ignorant because I know for a fact that Islam does not require women to hide their faces. Everything but the face, hands & feet should be covered. When we go to Hajj or Umraah we're not supposed to cover our faces. Get the facts straight.
PetrZimin is offline


Old 09-01-2011, 07:41 AM   #20
fedelwet

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
524
Senior Member
Default
Because you have no first-hand experience of Islam in America, what the American mentality/culture is or what it's like being a Muslim in America. It's completely different over here from the Middle East. Things are not the same over here as in the M.E.


Sis, that doesn't mean what he says is incorrect. If he doesn't know what the US is like, it does not change the ruling regarding niqaab as the ruling is the same everywhere.

Regarding what the actual ruling is, the majority of scholars have always deemed it to be waajib. The proofs for this are found in the four sources of Sharia: Quran, Sunnah, Consensus and Analogy. This has been discussed numerous times on this forum, please feel free to search for the threads.

According to the deductions made by using these four sources, we come to the conclusion that niqaab is waajib. Very simple. Regarding the ruling of niqaab in Umrah or Hajj, you are correct, the face is not covered. But this is an exception to the rule and the scholars have always mentioned this and explained the possible reasons behind this ruling. This does not change the GENERAL rule that niqaab is waajib

The sister mentioned in the news article was not on Hajj or Umrah so niqaab would probably still have been waajib for her. I agree that it is not neccessary to point that out when the ruling of niqaab has nothing to do with the story, however and should not have been mentioned

fedelwet is offline



Reply to Thread New Thread

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:18 AM.
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Design & Developed by Amodity.com
Copyright© Amodity