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Old 02-28-2011, 07:07 PM   #1
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Who is Abū Jaʿfar al-Ḥanbalī? Is he a scholar? Does he have a website?

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Old 02-28-2011, 09:05 PM   #2
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Who is Abū Jaʿfār al-Ḥanbalī? Is he a scholar? Does he have a website?

The following website seems to have his books on it:

http://www.htspub.com/

I couldn't find a bio. for him though
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Old 02-28-2011, 10:45 PM   #3
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This is his article attacking the naive western understanding of islam- ?of ikhwanis etc
http://www.htspub.com/1430issue1.pdf

I heard abu ja'far is a student of abdurrahman al missri who makes takfeer of the rulers- and this may be true due to what he writes here

Imam `Umar `Abdur-Rahman al-Masri31, renounced secularism and democracy, “The youth have been ordered to give allegiance to the rulers, and to show pleasure in their Kufr, make judgments to their legislation of the new religion of secularism between creation. They make laws for it and spread it around and put it in the minds of the children. The call of this new religion is that the masjid is for Allah and the rulers legislate.” 32

31 b. 1357 AH (AD 1938). Hadith memoriser, commentator, theologian, soldier, Shafi`ii jurist, he studied with numerous great scholars, including the great Hanbali Imam `Abdul Latif as-Subki (who was a soldier and fought in wars against Salafiyyah and also the British and Russians), who taught the Imam the sciences of hadith, comparative fiqh and commentary. Imam `Umar `Abdur-Rahman memorised the Qur‟an at a young age, although blind and went on to memorise the six sihah hadith collections before his teenage years although at the time there was no braille so he had to listen and learn through repetition. He is today staring down a 200 year sentence at the ADMAX in Florence, Colorado Supermax prison under the ground for unsubstantiated charges. 32 Al
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:09 PM   #4
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This is his article attacking the naive western understanding of islam- ?of ikhwanis etc
http://www.htspub.com/1430issue1.pdf

I heard abu ja'far is a student of abdurrahman al missri who makes takfeer of the rulers- and this may be true due to what he writes here

Imam `Umar `Abdur-Rahman al-Masri31, renounced secularism and democracy, “The youth have been ordered to give allegiance to the rulers, and to show pleasure in their Kufr, make judgments to their legislation of the new religion of secularism between creation. They make laws for it and spread it around and put it in the minds of the children. The call of this new religion is that the masjid is for Allah and the rulers legislate.” 32

31 b. 1357 AH (AD 1938). Hadith memoriser, commentator, theologian, soldier, Shafi`ii jurist, he studied with numerous great scholars, including the great Hanbali Imam `Abdul Latif as-Subki (who was a soldier and fought in wars against Salafiyyah and also the British and Russians), who taught the Imam the sciences of hadith, comparative fiqh and commentary. Imam `Umar `Abdur-Rahman memorised the Qur‟an at a young age, although blind and went on to memorise the six sihah hadith collections before his teenage years although at the time there was no braille so he had to listen and learn through repetition. He is today staring down a 200 year sentence at the ADMAX in Florence, Colorado Supermax prison under the ground for unsubstantiated charges. 32 Al


for pointing out this wonderful article and refutation against the false religion of Democracy.

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Old 03-01-2011, 12:15 PM   #5
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Here's what he has to say about Ahmad Raza Khan:

maam Ahmad Ridaa’ Khaan

1272-1340 AD/1856-1921 AD. A Shaikh ul-Islam of his time and one of the great renewers of Islam in India in particular and of the Muslim world in general. There is no science in Islam that this Hanafi saint did not pen a work in and the same can be said for most of the secular sciences as well. A great Polemicist and a fighter of heresies, he spent most of his life fighting the cults and their influence. His victory over falsehood is one of the clearest examples that when one wants something only for the sake of Allah, they will be victorious and granted it by His Will.
he doesn't know the true situation, and has been mislead by a Brelwi into thinking this.
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:48 PM   #6
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This is his blog: http://jurjis.wordpress.com/

PS: The name Ja'far is written and pronounced جعفر. So it should be Jaʿfar instead of Jaʿfār.

Edit: looking through his blog, some of the things he says are quite extreme, therefore it is best to take what he says under the supervision of authentic scholars.

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Old 03-01-2011, 01:13 PM   #7
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I dont know much about shaykh umar abdur rahman and his takfeer of some rulers but I do know that the shaykh had a lot of knowledge, wrote probably amongst the great tafseer of surah taubah, he has mastered many sciences of deen and is a muhaddith etc. ALLAH help him as he is doing a 200 year prison sentence and is being treated in an inhumane manner by the american government. ALLAH bless him with steadfastness ameen.
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Old 03-01-2011, 01:15 PM   #8
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I dont agree with abu jafar on many issues but his anti-interfaith views and blasting secularism etc are very good and spot on. The fitna of interfaith has reached epidemic proportions.
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This is his blog: http://jurjis.wordpress.com/

PS: The name Ja'far is written and pronounced جعفر. So it should be Jaʿfar instead of Jaʿfār.

Edit: looking through his blog, some of the things he says are quite extreme, therefore it is best to take what he says under the supervision of authentic scholars.



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Old 03-01-2011, 02:13 PM   #10
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I dont agree with abu jafar on many issues but his anti-interfaith views and blasting secularism etc are very good and spot on. The fitna of interfaith has reached epidemic proportions.


, I agree.
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Old 03-01-2011, 02:30 PM   #11
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He definitely seems to have extreme views.

He agrees with the dishonest takfir of Ahmad Raza Khan, and apperantly considers Deobandis to be amongst Salafiyyah, while affirming a general takfir of them.

He also seems to have at least some degree of Ta`ssub for hi Madhab, and wrongly calls Qaradawi a Hanafi and Tantawi a Shafi`.
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Old 03-01-2011, 02:43 PM   #12
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He definitely seems to have extreme views.

He agrees with the dishonest takfir of Ahmad Raza Khan, and apperantly considers Deobandis to be amongst Salafiyyah, while affirming a general takfir of them.

He also seems to have at least some degree of Ta`ssub for hi Madhab, and wrongly calls Qaradawi a Hanafi and Tantawi a Shafi`.


Please provide some links bro,

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Old 03-01-2011, 02:45 PM   #13
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It was all on the front page of his blog.
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Old 03-01-2011, 02:53 PM   #14
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He definitely seems to have extreme views.

He agrees with the dishonest takfir of Ahmad Raza Khan, and apperantly considers Deobandis to be amongst Salafiyyah, while affirming a general takfir of them.

He also seems to have at least some degree of Ta`ssub for hi Madhab, and wrongly calls Qaradawi a Hanafi and Tantawi a Shafi`.


perhaps someone could inform him of his mistake in this part

The shaykh of the night would not have this and insisted that whoever did not call them kuffar or doubted in the kufr of any one of them was a kafir. When I heard this, I queried about whether every single and all of the masses of Deobandis and Salafis, Ahmadis and the like were unbelievers, which he readily admitted.

When he did this, I informed him that he had just made takfir on the children, women, old men and ignorant people among them. Furthermore, I stated that neither the author of the work nor the scholars that agreed said that anyone who did not agree or doubted in the kufr of those individuals was an unbeliever. We have (esp. br. saadkhan) has posted the view of Alaa Hazrat about takfeer of those who doubt the kufr of these personalities is also a kafir. Infact i think I read the statement in a Fatawa just the other day
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Old 03-01-2011, 03:39 PM   #15
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perhaps someone could inform him of his mistake in this part



We have (esp. br. saadkhan) has posted the view of Alaa Hazrat about takfeer of those who doubt the kufr of these personalities is also a kafir. Infact i think I read the statement in a Fatawa just the other day


It does seem that he would be open to the possibility that he is "rooting for the wrong side."

It may very well be a good idea to let him know.
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He also seems to have at least some degree of Ta`ssub for hi Madhab, and wrongly calls Qaradawi a Hanafi and Tantawi a Shafi`.
I think Shaykh al-Qaradawi was originally a Hanafi (and studied that madhhab at al-Azhar) before considering himself a mujtahid...
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I think Shaykh al-Qaradawi was originally a Hanafi (and studied that madhhab at al-Azhar) before considering himself a mujtahid...
Yes. He was Hanafi before. He is nothing now.
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Old 03-01-2011, 06:28 PM   #18
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He definitely seems to have extreme views.

He agrees with the dishonest takfir of Ahmad Raza Khan, and apperantly considers Deobandis to be amongst Salafiyyah, while affirming a general takfir of them.

He also seems to have at least some degree of Ta`ssub for hi Madhab, and wrongly calls Qaradawi a Hanafi and Tantawi a Shafi`.
He definitely needs to get his head examined if he agrees with Ahmed Ridda and affirms our takfir. And if he has been 'mislead' by a Barelwi, then he must have the intellect of a 4 yr old idiot.
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:56 PM   #19
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Where is he based? UK or the Sates?
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He also seems to have at least some degree of Ta`ssub for hi Madhab Is he even Hanbali in the first place?! He's a Barelwi masquerading as a Hanbali making nonsensical statements and he was from the followers of Shaykh Abu Hamza al-Masri and I strongly doubt he has any connection to Shaykh Abdul-Lateef as-Subki or Shaykh Umar Abdur-Rahman, considering the age difference, and I wonder why he would pump this connection, when the shaykh is Salafi and studied Ma'arij al-Qubool of Shaykh Hafidh al-Hakami and one of the Azhari Ash'ari shuyookh told me that he was "Wahabi".

Yes. He was Hanafi before. He is nothing now. Especially with his fatwa on serving in the American army
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