[surefireinvest]

Following the great success of ramadan TV, inshAllah mercy mission will be airing online 24/7 inshAllah:

http://mercymission.tv/


Also, they have a great monthly magazine for children:

http://www.youtube.com/user/LittleExplorersMag


They also have some great programs aimed at getting muslims to foster children:

http://www.mercymissionworld.org/our...ms/daar-aasya/

and give company to cancer victims:

http://www.mercymissionworld.org/our...-cancer-buddy/




For those looking for a halal method of finding a wife, they have a great matrimony website that is non sleazy, has a mahram system, and has a very different feel to places like shadi and singlemuslim:

http://www.purematrimony.com/



They have many other great programs and inshAllah I will keep you updated on those projects which are practical that you can get involved in inshAllah, that you can benefit from easily inshAllah. I ask Allah to accept their efforts and make them a means of benefitting the muslim community.


Jazakum Allahu Khair

[surefireinvest]

here is the official website for little explorers:

http://www.littleexplorersmagazine.co.uk/


Enjoy!!!

[Tazqoaap]

here is the official website for little explorers:

http://www.littleexplorersmagazine.co.uk/


Enjoy!!!

I donated money to the National Zakat Foundation. I later realised however that funds will also be used to build a womens refuge. Although this is a noble aim, from my (limited) understanding of the Hanafi fiqh, for Zakat to be fulfilled, it must be a transfer of tangible Assets to the person in need, hence building a womens refuge won't deem my Zakat obligation fulfilled. Can you comment?

[surefireinvest]

I donated money to the National Zakat Foundation. I later realised however that funds will also be used to build a womens refuge. Although this is a noble aim, from my (limited) understanding of the Hanafi fiqh, for Zakat to be fulfilled, it must be a transfer of tangible Assets to the person in need, hence building a womens refuge won't deem my Zakat obligation fulfilled. Can you comment?

wa alaykum salaam

jazak allahu khair for your contribution

one request, please ask in a manner that doesnt make it appear that people cannot give money to the charity, as it may put people off donating even though this question needs to be put before someone knowledgeable first. so "is a womens refuge a zakatable project" for example may be more appropriate unless you already consulted with someone. like if i say "ummah welfare trust doesnt distribute zakat in a way that is eligible in the shariah" its an accusation and as im a layman with limited knowledge its better to ask "is this zakatable for x, y ,z reasons". just an advice as we dont want to be accountable for anything on the yawmil quiyama.

regarding your question, alhamdulillah im very happy you contributed your zakat money to this project. let me assure you that 100% if your donation will go on helping needy muslims in the UK and inshAllah you will acquire MORE reward than if you were to give abroad. believe me there are muslim women on the streets prostituting themselves to feed their families, there are families sleeping rough etc, 3million muslims here, surely we should be able to take care of this.

zakat is payable into 8 different categories. however, i think its better that we get a person of knowledge to answer your question in full with details, quotations from qur'an, hadeeth and hanafi scholars inshAllah and will that be sufficient?

or do you mean you paid zakatul fitr? Alhamdulillah national zakat foundation also accepts zakatul fitr but it must be specified as zakatul fitr in order to be distributed in compliance with specific criteria that only applies to zakatul fitr.

inshAllah Ill try to get your question answered and its very important that we ensure our money is given in accordance with the shariah although im very certain that they know whatthey are doing and woudlnt collect money for zakat unless they knew it was permissable to use it in this manner (in this case to house the homeless). please note that money is also distributed to people for food and other necessities and inshAllah soon i will be posting up some of the fruits of peoples donations as they are already helping quite a few homeless muslims alhamdulillah including a man and his 8 year old daughter who were sleeping rough and now are housed with food alhamdulillah and are being taken care. its very heart warming to see the difference you are making so i will try to post up more info inshallah.

i will try to get tawfique choudry to answer this question personally inshallah to avoid future confusion, he's very knowledgable mashallah and i dont think he would have approved the set up of a zakat foundation that wasnt zakatable and he was the one who recommended me to learn hanafi fiqh so im sure he can quote you hanafi references inshallah in case their is any minor differences in this area between madhahib.

in the mean time, if a scholar who is present here could also give a second oppinion that would be great inshallah

[surefireinvest]

UWT is aimed at relief in teh third world so its unlikely that they would have time to deal with the western world. for example, the womens refuge and supply distribution centre (for distributing food and money to the needy etc) wil cost NZF £200,000 to open up the first centre in birmingham. UWT had to pay £150,000 for a drill to create water wells in africa. two very different needs and both financially consuming. i dont think UWT would be able to relocate their resources to deal with western problems without losing much of their capablities in disaster areas like pakistan or somalia.

mercy mission is specifically designed for the western world, dealing with things like a TV channel, childrens magazine, helping cancer victims and foster children etc, the aim is very much about helping muslims to realise their potential.

its headed by shaikh tawfique choudry alhamdulillah so we already have a good scholar heading the campaign, you can ask him questions or ask the NZF questions here:

www.nationalzakatfoundation.com

it has a zakat calculator, where your money goes, why we should pay zakat locally etc.

ill be updating evryone soon inshallah as they already have one of these centres set up in india and id like for you all to see the video but i need permission to post the video up first inshallah

[surefireinvest]

p.s. as i said, regarding your specific questions, i believe its better for the answer to be left to shaikh tawfique choudry as he is knowledgable enough to give you the repsonses inshallah, i just unofficially promote and fund raise so am not really able to deal with fiqh issues etc

[surefireinvest]

shaikh tawifque choudry is travelling today but inshAllah he will provide a response in the next few days so please be patient inshAllah

[Tazqoaap]

Jazakallahu Khayrun for the response. Apologies if I may detracted people from donating to the NZF. I tried to add a caveat in there saying that I had limited understanding, and was hoping that someone with more knowledge could provide some guidance.

We do need to get further clarification, however it's best that this is from a scholar from the Hanafi Fiqh due to differences in opinion, rather than Sh. Tawfique Choudhury, who to the best of my knowledge isn't Hanafi.

p.s. Not sure how much this applies to the current situation: http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.a...=4416&CATE=195

[surefireinvest]

Jazakallahu Khayrun for the response. Apologies if I may detracted people from donating to the NZF. I tried to add a caveat in there saying that I had limited understanding, and was hoping that someone with more knowledge could provide some guidance.

We do need to get further clarification, however it's best that this is from a scholar from the Hanafi Fiqh due to differences in opinion, rather than Sh. Tawfique Choudhury, who to the best of my knowledge isn't Hanafi.

p.s. Not sure how much this applies to the current situation: http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.a...=4416&CATE=195

regarding the link, that is if the money goes on dawah e.g. books, courses, mosques etc. this money goes 100% into zakatable things like the poor and needy etc. The only question is, are you allowed to build a house using zakat money for homeless people to stay in. That is the question. Shaikh Tawfique will definitely be able to quote hanafi scholars, he recommend for us to all learn from the deobandis in hanafi fiqh, Allahu a'lam if he follows hanafi fiqh but tahts what he recommend a room full of students last time i saw him a few months ago when i started fund raising, so given that he's recommending that, im sure he will have some knowledge and access to opinions of hanafi scholars. Given that its his project im sure he should be allowed to quote from hanafi sources. As I said, if you want to back that up with confirmation from local scholars who are present on the forum then even better inshAllah, im sure they wont disagree with giants of the hanafi school unless they have some basis. we should bare in mind that at this stage, we dont know if its allowed or not, i have definitely read that you can provide shelter for the homeless using zakat money so never gave it a thought but you have a right to ask but please withhold from drawing any conclusions until after we have consulted people more knowledgable than ourselves inshAllah. Jazak Allahu Khair. If you have some knowledgable, please get him to read this forum and post his/her comments also inshAllah

[surefireinvest]

I donated money to the National Zakat Foundation. I later realised however that funds will also be used to build a womens refuge. Although this is a noble aim, from my (limited) understanding of the Hanafi fiqh, for Zakat to be fulfilled, it must be a transfer of tangible Assets to the person in need, hence building a womens refuge won't deem my Zakat obligation fulfilled. Can you comment?

also please bare in mind, a person in need is only one of many categories of people entitled to zakat money (unless we are talking about zakatul fitr). For example you can put your money into jihad, you can give it to non muslims to warm their hearts to islam etc. its not only for the poor although with NZF your money is going to teh poor but just saying its not straight forward so lets avoid making statements or drawing conclusions until we have found out and that should include actually asking the NZF for references to back up the fact that its zakatable money as if scrutinises your charity of course you should be allowed to defend it. Zakat is deep, thats why we need scholars, so we should be careful of speaking without knowledge inshAllah hence why im keeping silent on the issue till a scholar can come and explain it.

it sounds like you are talking about zakatul fitr though bro so please clarify which type of zakat your talking about

[krek-sikUp]

zakat al-fitr goes to the same people as normal zakat.

[surefireinvest]

zakat al-fitr goes to the same people as normal zakat.

not correct bro. Zakatul fitr can only go to destitute people, and must be in teh forum of 4 handful of grain or dates or other legislated foodtypes.

the zakat of your wealth has 8 categories that it can be given to, including the wayfarer, the destitute, the poor, the non muslim or new muslim who's heart may be warmed to islam, the mujahid etc etc.

Brothers please stop talking until you get a scholar to come here and explain things, speaking without knowledge is a heavy sin. These are basics of the deen ya ikhwan, everyone should understand zakat, its the third pillar of islam, whats the point learning anything complicated if you dontknow who your zakat can be given to, when it becomes obligatory on you, how to calculate it etc. Allahu musta'aan. And you have been saying bad things about NZF in the process, saying that their project is questionable islamicly in terms of whether it is actually zakatable or not when your not really sure. fear Allah ikhwan because you may be questioned on the yawmil quiyama, this refuge is for the most destitute sisters,. do you want to be responsible for driving someone away from donating towards it when you didnt have any knowledge of what you were saying?

[IssuessBratte]

not correct bro. Zakatul fitr can only go to destitute people, and must be in teh forum of 4 handful of grain or dates or other legislated foodtypes.

the zakat of your wealth has 8 categories that it can be given to, including the wayfarer, the destitute, the poor, the non muslim or new muslim who's heart may be warmed to islam, the mujahid etc etc.

Brothers please stop talking until you get a scholar to come here and explain things, speaking without knowledge is a heavy sin. These are basics of the deen ya ikhwan, everyone should understand zakat, its the third pillar of islam, whats the point learning anything complicated if you dontknow who your zakat can be given to, when it becomes obligatory on you, how to calculate it etc. Allahu musta'aan. And you have been saying bad things about NZF in the process, saying that their project is questionable islamicly in terms of whether it is actually zakatable or not when your not really sure. fear Allah ikhwan because you may be questioned on the yawmil quiyama, this refuge is for the most destitute sisters,. do you want to be responsible for driving someone away from donating towards it when you didnt have any knowledge of what you were saying?

as long as the NZF are aware that money donated on the basis of Zakat should be used for JUST that and not Lillah like building projects. Otherwise, THEY will be held responsible. That's the clarification issue. Now you've collected money from people here for BUILDING a hostel. Have YOU clarified this from a scholar as Zakat or have you not done your homework on the subject. If people have given money on the premise this will be Zakat when in fact it COULD be used by NZF as Lillah, then both you and NZF in your enthusiasm have inadvertently or possibly advertently mislead people.

This is a serious issue so you better have your A game so to speak in check brother.

[IssuessBratte]

not correct bro. Zakatul fitr can only go to destitute people, and must be in teh forum of 4 handful of grain or dates or other legislated foodtypes.

the zakat of your wealth has 8 categories that it can be given to, including the wayfarer, the destitute, the poor, the non muslim or new muslim who's heart may be warmed to islam, the mujahid etc etc.

Brothers please stop talking until you get a scholar to come here and explain things, speaking without knowledge is a heavy sin. These are basics of the deen ya ikhwan, everyone should understand zakat, its the third pillar of islam, whats the point learning anything complicated if you dontknow who your zakat can be given to, when it becomes obligatory on you, how to calculate it etc. Allahu musta'aan. And you have been saying bad things about NZF in the process, saying that their project is questionable islamicly in terms of whether it is actually zakatable or not when your not really sure. fear Allah ikhwan because you may be questioned on the yawmil quiyama, this refuge is for the most destitute sisters,. do you want to be responsible for driving someone away from donating towards it when you didnt have any knowledge of what you were saying?

the email for national zakat foundation doesn't work. can you get a valid contact email for the NZF people?

[Tazqoaap]

the email for national zakat foundation doesn't work. can you get a valid contact email for the NZF people?

My email bounced back too.

[surefireinvest]

ok inshAllah I will take these issues up. I am a layman and unable to derive rulings for myself so I trusted shaikh tawfique choudry that he wouldnt open an organisation called national zakat foundation and then not be able to accept zakat money, he said its zakatable and i trust him. I accept people have the right to question the details before making their donations but it should be done in a certain manner and people shouldnt speak wthout knowledge. I am not able to explain to you that it is zakatble with proofs and quotes from hanafi scholars and therefore I stayed quiet as we shoudlnt speak without knowledge, all im asking is for people to do the same and make enquiries without making accusations or rash statements or make statements regarding the shariah or conditions surrounding zakat etc without knowledge.

I will chase it up as you have asked and you have a perfect right to ask and I believe the answer will be satisfactory inshAllah so please remain patient, Ill also chase them up on the email address issue, they just changed a lot of things with regards to their web presence, I know my contacts email changed from .com to .org today when i tried to email him so it will probabily be something simple. Dont worry brothers and sisters, inshAllah all will be explained

[surefireinvest]

just so people are aware, another thread was opened up here:

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...hp?77036-zakat

continuing part of the discussion