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Old 08-28-2011, 02:55 PM   #1
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Default Justice Muhammed Taqi Saheb DB answers 18 Degree question. (AUG 2011)
Justice Mufti Muhammed Taqi Saheb DB Says That Darul Uloom Karachi's Subh Saadiq Times Are On 18 Degrees for Fajr & Suhoor
Thursday, 25 August 2011 17:14
(taken from wifaqul ulama website,http://www.wifaqululama.co.uk/home/1...-a-suhoor.html)


This is a copy of a question sent via email by Moulana Hanif Dudhwala Saheb on the issue of Subh Sadiq. The answer is given by Justice Mufti Muhammed Taqi Saheb on the 16th of August 2011.

From: 'Moulana Hanif Dudhwala'

Sent: 16 August 2011 4:26 PM

To: 'Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani'

Subject: Suhoor & Fajar

A.A.W.W., Hazrat Mufti Taqi Usmani Saheb, hope Ramadhan is going well, this is Hanif Dudhwala from Blackburn UK (your co traveller to Albania in 2006), sorry to disturb your busy schedule in Ramadhan but I thought this was a very important issue especially here in the UK at this time and wanted to make sure that your respectable name is not used for incorrect information, it is being claimed that Darul Uloom Karachi ends their suhoor on 18 degrees and prays their Fajar on 15 degrees, this claim is being attributed to yourself and widely circulated as can be seen on the website link below, I will really be very grateful if I could get a clarification from yourself which I can ( if you say) circulate on your behalf, jzk for your precious time and humble request for duas, W.S. Hanif Dudhwala – Blackburn UK

http://www.hizbululama.org.uk/highli..._18_degree.pdf

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From: 'Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani'

Sent: 21 August 2011 11:21

To: 'Moulana Hanif Dudhwala'

Subject: RE: Suhoor & Fajar

Dear Molana Hanif Sahab Assalamu alaikum

Thanks very much for your email.

There are some fundamental misunderstandings that have been narrated in the referenced article. The viewpoint of the scholars of Darul Uloom Karachi since the time of my honourable father, Hazrat Maulana Mufti Muhammad Shafee’ Sahab ﻰﻟﺎﻌﺗ ﷲ ﮫﻣﺣر, has been that Subh Saadiq commences when the sun reaches 18 degrees below the horizon, implying that Sehri ends at this time and it is totally impermissible to eat even a morsel after this time for one who is fasting. Similarly, it also implies that the time of Fajr Salah commences at this time, meaning that any person who performs his Fajr Salah at this time will not be required to repeat his Salah as it was performed validly in its time.

Keeping this in mind, the practice in Ramadhan in Darul Uloom Karachi is that Suhoor ends at 18 degrees whilst the Adhan of Fajr is called out at after the sun reaches 15 degrees below the horizon. This is done on the basis of طﺎﯾﺗﺣا so as to enable practice on both the views of 18 and 15 degrees. This is in the same context as appears in numerous occasions in the classical texts of Fiqh, wherein a jurist regards practicing on a view which takes into consideration and reconciles between differing views, as better (and not as necessary) to practice upon even though it may be permissible according to that jurist to practice on the differing opinion. I hope this has clarified the misunderstanding.

Wassalam

Muhammad Taqi Usmani

(taken from wifaqul ulama website, http://www.wifaqululama.co.uk/home/1...-a-suhoor.html)
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Old 08-28-2011, 06:09 PM   #2
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Too bad the issue of Isha time was not asked. Couldnt they ask him about the degrees of Isha times, and the fact that many if not all mosques in the UK, Germany, Holland, Belgium, France etc. pray below 15 degrees? While in his Fatawa he has clearly stated one should not pray below 15 degrees?

If I could reach him I would have asked him myself but alas.
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Old 08-28-2011, 06:11 PM   #3
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yes and in canada too.
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