Is ahlus-sunna.com barelvi or deobandi? - DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate

**TRASIAOREXOLA** · 08-26-2011, 06:11 PM

AsalamAlaikum
I just want to know really, don't have much knowledge of that site.
I would ask after ramadan. But since I might take some knowledge from that site I would prefer knowing as soon as possible
JZK!
BTW no deo vs barelvi war please.

**Aminkaoo** · 08-26-2011, 11:33 PM

AsalamAlaikum
I just want to know really, don't have much knowledge of that site.
I would ask after ramadan. But since I might take some knowledge from that site I would prefer knowing as soon as possible
JZK!
BTW no deo vs barelvi war please.

It's barelwi.

**TRASIAOREXOLA** · 08-26-2011, 11:58 PM

It's barelwi.

Thanks

**TRASIAOREXOLA** · 08-27-2011, 02:50 AM

It's barelwi.

btw, how did you find out or how do you know??

Because I did a search on the website "Ahmad Raza Khan" and nothing came up lol

**NikolaAAA** · 08-27-2011, 02:59 AM

what's the problem is someone is barelvi?

**TRASIAOREXOLA** · 08-27-2011, 03:12 AM

what's the problem is someone is barelvi?

I'm not attacking anyone whatsoever
Just answering your question

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...page2&p=497131

**NikolaAAA** · 08-27-2011, 03:32 AM

I'm not attacking anyone whatsoever
Just answering your question

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...page2&p=497131

can't say anything

I haven't read in depth about deobandi & barelvi.

**TRASIAOREXOLA** · 08-27-2011, 03:52 AM

can't say anything
I haven't read in depth about deobandi & barelvi.

Ya I;m pretty confused right now :S after ramadan is over I will be posting loads of questions :P lol
Need some concepts cleared.
We all struggle for the right path, InshAllah Allah shows it to us

**carletoxtrs** · 08-27-2011, 04:01 AM

Ya I;m pretty confused right now :S after ramadan is over I will be posting loads of questions :P lol
Need some concepts cleared.
We all struggle for the right path, InshAllah Allah shows it to us

Which concepts are you talking about brother?

**CAxrrAYN** · 08-27-2011, 05:17 AM

In reality in the indo-pak continent, people are sunni or bid'atis, because there may be other groups of "brelwis" yet not sharing the exact ideology so it would be an insult to brelwis however both would be bid'atis.

**carletoxtrs** · 08-27-2011, 05:21 AM

In reality in the indo-pak continent, people are sunni or bid'atis, because there may be other groups of "brelwis" yet not sharing the exact ideology so it would be an insult to brelwis however both would be bid'atis.

Bidatis are not only barlevis, along with them there are certain kattar Ahlehadeeth/salafis who are also considered Bidatis

**CAxrrAYN** · 08-27-2011, 06:16 AM

Certain 'deobandi' (claimants) are also bid'atis, just like some ahle hadeeth (claimants) are bid'ati.
But every brelwis-inclined is a bid'ati.
Anyways I should not have posted it.

**carletoxtrs** · 08-27-2011, 06:26 AM

Deobandi means to be following the maslak of ulema of deoband, so a deobandi cannot be a bidati.
As far as ahlehadeeth/salafi and barelvis are concerned thay use ghuloo and exagerations in aqeeda which makes them bidatis in that aspects.So by definition a Deobandi cannot be a bidati where as a Barelvi and Ahlehadeeth by definition have elements of clear Bidah in their creed.

**TRASIAOREXOLA** · 08-27-2011, 06:29 AM

Which concepts are you talking about brother?

Brother, Ill let you know in a few days because its Ramadan right now, and it's almost over. I'll jot down my confusion and post on sunniforum, most probably on this thread because it got started here lol.

**TRASIAOREXOLA** · 08-27-2011, 06:30 AM

In reality in the indo-pak continent, people are sunni or bid'atis, because there may be other groups of "brelwis" yet not sharing the exact ideology so it would be an insult to brelwis however both would be bid'atis.

Well, there are many within shariah sufis(sunnis) too...

**CAxrrAYN** · 08-27-2011, 06:35 AM

We should not be discussing this.

**carletoxtrs** · 08-27-2011, 06:43 AM

The brother here wants some guidance on which religious groups or people to avoid and who are the most safe to follow. Just guide him and give your input if you know something.

**TRASIAOREXOLA** · 08-27-2011, 09:45 AM

The brother here wants some guidance on which religious groups or people to avoid and who are the most safe to follow. Just guide him and give your input if you know something.

Much respect brother! I will post in a few days so keep an eye out!

**OccabsLam** · 08-27-2011, 10:05 AM

Anyone who wants to find out what Deos are should go to the website umm-ul-qura.

**TRASIAOREXOLA** · 08-27-2011, 10:09 AM

Anyone who wants to find out what Deos are should go to the website umm-ul-qura.

With no disrespect, that site is salafi and I know that is one group I should be avoiding

08-26-2011, 06:11 PM	#1
TRASIAOREXOLA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	Is ahlus-sunna.com barelvi or deobandi? AsalamAlaikum I just want to know really, don't have much knowledge of that site. I would ask after ramadan. But since I might take some knowledge from that site I would prefer knowing as soon as possible JZK! BTW no deo vs barelvi war please. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-26-2011, 11:33 PM	#2
Aminkaoo Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 464 Senior Member	AsalamAlaikum I just want to know really, don't have much knowledge of that site. I would ask after ramadan. But since I might take some knowledge from that site I would prefer knowing as soon as possible JZK! BTW no deo vs barelvi war please. It's barelwi. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-26-2011, 11:58 PM	#3
TRASIAOREXOLA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	It's barelwi. Thanks Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-27-2011, 02:50 AM	#4
TRASIAOREXOLA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	It's barelwi. btw, how did you find out or how do you know?? Because I did a search on the website "Ahmad Raza Khan" and nothing came up lol Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-27-2011, 02:59 AM	#5
NikolaAAA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 394 Senior Member	what's the problem is someone is barelvi? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-27-2011, 03:12 AM	#6
TRASIAOREXOLA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	what's the problem is someone is barelvi? I'm not attacking anyone whatsoever Just answering your question http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...page2&p=497131 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-27-2011, 03:32 AM	#7
NikolaAAA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 394 Senior Member	I'm not attacking anyone whatsoever Just answering your question http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...page2&p=497131 can't say anything I haven't read in depth about deobandi & barelvi. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-27-2011, 03:52 AM	#8
TRASIAOREXOLA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	can't say anything I haven't read in depth about deobandi & barelvi. Ya I;m pretty confused right now :S after ramadan is over I will be posting loads of questions :P lol Need some concepts cleared. We all struggle for the right path, InshAllah Allah shows it to us Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-27-2011, 04:01 AM	#9
carletoxtrs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 436 Senior Member	Ya I;m pretty confused right now :S after ramadan is over I will be posting loads of questions :P lol Need some concepts cleared. We all struggle for the right path, InshAllah Allah shows it to us Which concepts are you talking about brother? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-27-2011, 05:17 AM	#10
CAxrrAYN Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 458 Senior Member	In reality in the indo-pak continent, people are sunni or bid'atis, because there may be other groups of "brelwis" yet not sharing the exact ideology so it would be an insult to brelwis however both would be bid'atis. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-27-2011, 05:21 AM	#11
carletoxtrs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 436 Senior Member	In reality in the indo-pak continent, people are sunni or bid'atis, because there may be other groups of "brelwis" yet not sharing the exact ideology so it would be an insult to brelwis however both would be bid'atis. Bidatis are not only barlevis, along with them there are certain kattar Ahlehadeeth/salafis who are also considered Bidatis Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-27-2011, 06:16 AM	#12
CAxrrAYN Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 458 Senior Member	Certain 'deobandi' (claimants) are also bid'atis, just like some ahle hadeeth (claimants) are bid'ati. But every brelwis-inclined is a bid'ati. Anyways I should not have posted it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-27-2011, 06:26 AM	#13
carletoxtrs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 436 Senior Member	Deobandi means to be following the maslak of ulema of deoband, so a deobandi cannot be a bidati. As far as ahlehadeeth/salafi and barelvis are concerned thay use ghuloo and exagerations in aqeeda which makes them bidatis in that aspects.So by definition a Deobandi cannot be a bidati where as a Barelvi and Ahlehadeeth by definition have elements of clear Bidah in their creed. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-27-2011, 06:29 AM	#14
TRASIAOREXOLA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	Which concepts are you talking about brother? Brother, Ill let you know in a few days because its Ramadan right now, and it's almost over. I'll jot down my confusion and post on sunniforum, most probably on this thread because it got started here lol. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-27-2011, 06:30 AM	#15
TRASIAOREXOLA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	In reality in the indo-pak continent, people are sunni or bid'atis, because there may be other groups of "brelwis" yet not sharing the exact ideology so it would be an insult to brelwis however both would be bid'atis. Well, there are many within shariah sufis(sunnis) too... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-27-2011, 06:35 AM	#16
CAxrrAYN Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 458 Senior Member	We should not be discussing this. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-27-2011, 06:43 AM	#17
carletoxtrs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 436 Senior Member	The brother here wants some guidance on which religious groups or people to avoid and who are the most safe to follow. Just guide him and give your input if you know something. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-27-2011, 09:45 AM	#18
TRASIAOREXOLA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	The brother here wants some guidance on which religious groups or people to avoid and who are the most safe to follow. Just guide him and give your input if you know something. Much respect brother! I will post in a few days so keep an eye out! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-27-2011, 10:05 AM	#19
OccabsLam Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 396 Senior Member	Anyone who wants to find out what Deos are should go to the website umm-ul-qura. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-27-2011, 10:09 AM	#20
TRASIAOREXOLA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	Anyone who wants to find out what Deos are should go to the website umm-ul-qura. With no disrespect, that site is salafi and I know that is one group I should be avoiding Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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