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Old 08-21-2011, 11:32 AM   #1
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Assalamualikum

Brothers and Sisters happy ramadan...May allah accept all u r dua's

I have one doubt please clarify

tafsir ibn kathir

set of books (8 volumes) authentic???

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Old 08-21-2011, 11:36 AM   #2
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wa alaykum assalam brother sohail,

have a happy ramadan.

The 8 vol. Tafseer is abridged. If you want a simple tafsir then stick to ma'ariful qur'an or tafsir jalalayn that aisha bewley translated.

include me in your pious prayers.
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Old 08-21-2011, 11:40 AM   #3
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One of the best books of tafseer. This doesnt necessarily mean every single narration in it is surely authentic. But the tafseer is surely one of the very best.
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Old 08-21-2011, 11:41 AM   #4
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Mariful Qur'an is not availible in my area i searched a lot.....

and what is tafsir jalalayn????and how many volumes ???
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Old 08-21-2011, 11:51 AM   #5
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aren't there two or three SF brothers near your city? do you have their contact? Ask them.

Tafsir Jalalayn was written by Imam al-Suyuti and some other scholar as well. Currently, aisha bewley has translated one volume.

Ma'ariful Qur'an was written by Mufti Taqi's father. It is 8 vol. and it's a nice Tafsir. You can get it's online PDF file as well. It exists in English and maybe in urdu as well.
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Old 08-21-2011, 11:54 AM   #6
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Tafsir jalalayn Is translated by Doctor. Feras Hamza. in english?
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Old 08-21-2011, 12:03 PM   #7
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i don't know, maybe he did it too, but i know aisha bewley did it...

buy ma'ariful qur'aan and tell me how you like it.

ma'ariful quran in urdu:

http://maarifulquran.net/old/?42ca29...f313748d82eced

in eng:

http://ibnayyub.wordpress.com/2007/0...mani-complete/
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Old 08-21-2011, 04:46 PM   #8
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Assalamu Alaikum

You can read Mariful Quran here without downloading it

http://islamicstudies.info/maarif/

and ibn kathir

http://www.islamicstudies.info/ibnkathir/ibnkathir.php
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Old 08-21-2011, 05:00 PM   #9
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Ma'ariful Qur'an was written by Mufti Taqi's father. It is 8 vol. and it's a nice Tafsir. You can get it's online PDF file as well. It exists in English and maybe in urdu as well.

Lol Hadhrat-the original is in Urdu!
Wassalam
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Old 08-21-2011, 05:05 PM   #10
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Assalamualikum

Brothers and Sisters happy ramadan...May allah accept all u r dua's

I have one doubt please clarify

tafsir ibn kathir

set of books (8 volumes) authentic???


You believe in beginning with the top jigar(dear)?
If I may be allowed to suggest then I'll advise the opposite route.
(1) Get a grip on basics of Islam-like Talim-ul-Islam. (And implementing the simple things in life)
(2) Then some time on Seerat of Prophet (PBUH).
(3) Then Translation of Holy Quran and some history of Islam
(4) Tafseer, Traditions, Fiqh (if you so wish).
Wassalam
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Old 08-21-2011, 05:43 PM   #11
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I agree with the suggestions to stick to Ma`riful Quran. I don't think there's a better tafsir for laymen around.

As for the Tafsir Ibn Kathir, the original is definitely reliable.

As for the translation done by Darussalam, it is abridged, and there have been suggestions that the abridgements that were made may have been ideologically motivated (like praise for Imam Abu Hanifa being removed for example). There are also strange translation issues. Allah knows best if the translators and editors had ill intentions or not, but those two issues do remain. In addition, the book is confusingly arranged and was never meant for laymen.
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Old 08-21-2011, 05:48 PM   #12
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I agree with the suggestions to stick to Ma`riful Quran. I don't think there's a better tafsir for laymen around.

As for the Tafsir Ibn Kathir, the original is definitely reliable.

As for the translation done by Darussalam, it is abridged, and there have been suggestions that the abridgements that were made may have been ideologically motivated (like praise for Imam Abu Hanifa being removed for example). There are also strange translation issues. Allah knows best if the translators and editors had ill intentions or not, but those two issues do remain. In addition, the book is confusingly arranged and was never meant for laymen.
Walikum Salam
Is there a link where I could read more specifically about the part highlighted in red?
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Old 08-21-2011, 05:49 PM   #13
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https://sites.google.com/site/juned4uorg/quraan-tafsir
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Old 08-21-2011, 06:46 PM   #14
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Other threads on Darrusalam:
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-by-Darussalam

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...shers-Question

Asalamwalaikum,

Brothers and sisters this is an exceedingly important issue. This isn't about what books we should buy first or in what order. This is about maintaining the scriptural integrity of some of our most esteemed books. At present the Dar-us-salam edition of Sahih Bukhari and Tafsir Ibn Kathir have had a lot of innuendo placed against them. That they specifically alter passages to suit their ideological purposes. This is a big charge. I would also advise forum users that when I seek to google this information. Sunniforum threads come up top. This makes it especially important.

For this reason, could we please have specific scholarly links which list the ways in which the abridgement may or may not have been altered? Alternatively has anyone considered actively taking on the obligation and comparing and contrasting the 'original' Arabic with the English translation? I know this is an onerous task but it is a vitally important one? Traditionally Sahih Bukhari is considered by Muslims to be 'the most authentic book after the Quran'. If there are any changes in this book short of removing duplicate hadees, shortening chains of transmission, this needs to be known. It also needs to be stated specifically in islamic bookshops why they do not sell them (some bookshops do not, they need to say why to protect muslims).
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Old 08-21-2011, 06:59 PM   #15
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Tafsir ibn kathis is written by maulana muhammad junagarthi in urdu???
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Old 08-21-2011, 07:01 PM   #16
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Is the urdu Version authentic???
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Old 08-21-2011, 07:03 PM   #17
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Tafsir ibn kathis is written by maulana muhammad junagarthi in urdu???
Muhammad Junagarhi has translated Tafseer ibn-Katheer in urdu but has erred on many occasions

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-ra&highlight=
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Old 08-21-2011, 08:56 PM   #18
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you can get it in english just dont get the one published by darrussalam.

here is one on kitabbun : http://kitaabun.com/shopping3/produc...oducts_id=2804
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Old 08-21-2011, 09:53 PM   #19
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you can get it in english just dont get the one published by darrussalam.

here is one on kitabbun : http://kitaabun.com/shopping3/produc...oducts_id=2804
Jzkh, i've just had a look at the 'reviews' for it. Unfortunately they do not seem that favourable.

http://kitaabun.com/shopping3/produc...35c94733cd5d35

"Hugh Anthony" Sadly another opportunity missed. There are now three heavily edited translations of Tafsir Ibn Kathir on the market- all three intent on attempting to portray the Imam as a proto-Wahhabi by selectivley editing out hadith, sayings of Sahaba and Tabieen and even the Imam's own comments. This version is marginally better than the other two in it being easily accessible in 4 volumes, bereft on the intrusive subtitles inserted in the Darussalam version and containing some of the material taken out of that version. For example in the tafsir of 30:52 the Imam's comments that the majority of the Ulema believe that the dead do in fact hear and some of the evidence he gives for it is here (note some not all). Also this version is alot cheaper than the others.
However much of the material which shows the true Sunni nature of the Imam's tafsir has been removed for example the removal of
-the story of Utbi and the Bedouin from the tafsir of 4:64
-the narrations concerning the parents seeing their children's deeds in their graves from 9:105
-the narrations concerning the different ranks of Awliya from 2:251
and others.

However it is without a doubt the best of the three versions available at present.
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Old 08-22-2011, 05:38 PM   #20
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Al luluwal marjann......!!!!
Can any one give the info about this book and is this book an authentic book to read????
Jazakallah
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