[PebydataFeents]

wr wb.

We must all take a lesson from the following story.

BANGALORE: Two lovers from Mysore city allegedly committed suicide by jumping from 300 feet Sholay Hill in Ramanagaram district and their bodies were found on Tuesday.

Police said that they were missing since Monday and committed suicide at the Sholay Hill, also known as Ramadevara Betta. The deceased have been identified as Saleem (22) and Zaheera (18), residents of Kurimandi in Mysore.

Police said that the duo went to the hill on Monday morning on a two-wheeler but did not return till late in the night.

The police searched for them with the help of local people and traced the bodies at a steep portion of the hill. They suspect that the two may have fallen from nearly 300 ft, resulting to death.

A witness said that the two were engaged in serious conversation atop the hill. Later, the boy tried to commit suicide by jumping from the top but was stopped by the girl. Eventually, the youth jumped off from the hill dragging the girl along with him holding her hand, the boy said.

Ramanagaram police are investigating the case. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/lovers-co...75-60-119.html

[Jon Woodgate]

upsetting really,

yes true, one single sin can harm us like way =( btw the sister though is sinner for keeping haram relationship but is still innocent in the talk of suicide, the brother is responsible for her murder also, I consider.

may Allah (swt) save us all-ameen.

[duminyricky]

why eternal damnation if they are muslim???

[Obgrfbke]

Apparently, some scholars believe that committing suicide is an unpardonable sin. I think it is based on some Hadeeths where the Prophet SAW says whoever throws himself off a mountain (in suicide)
will perpetually fall in hell and he will do that forever (paraphrased). There are others like this.

Maybe someone with more knowledge then myself can give a better answer.

[Uciaucrx]

If they died as muslims, they will be punished for their sins but eventually be taken out and entered into Jannah. Allah knows best.

Reference: Aqidah Tahawiya Point 68:

Those of the Ummah of Muhammad, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, who have committed grave sins will be in the Fire, but not forever, provided they die and meet Allah as believers affirming His unity even if they have not repented. They are subject to His will and judgement. If He wants, He will forgive them and pardon them out of His generosity, as is mentionied in the Qur'an when He says:

`And He forgives anything less than that (shirk) to whoever He wills' (al-Nisa' 4: 116);

and if He wants, He will punish them in the Fire out of His justice and then bring them out of the Fire through His mercy, and for the intercession of those who were obedient to Him, and send them to the Garden. This is because Allah is the Protector of those who recognize Him and will not treat them in the Next World in the same way as He treats those who deny Him and who are bereft of His guidance and have failed to obtain His protection. O Allah, You are the Protector of Islam and its people; make us firm in Islam until the day we meet You.

[Obgrfbke]

^ That seems to be the majority view. But apparently there are some scholars who say suicide is unforgivable, I think there were some Shafii scholars who said such.
Allahu A'lam

[Uciaucrx]

It would be interesting to find out which Shafi'i scholars said this as I wasn't aware of the ikhtilaaf on this issue. It's usually seen as a very Christian thing i.e. Suicide is unforgivable.

[Obgrfbke]

I will try to find out for you, as I said it is a minority, but sometimes it's easier to find scholars who differ against the majority.

[DrJonson]

What made them do that?

[PebydataFeents]

What made them do that?

wr wb, the families didn't agree to their alliance, the girl's family was going to get her married to someone else...

[PebydataFeents]

upsetting really,

yes true, one single sin can harm us like way =( btw the sister though is sinner for keeping haram relationship but is still innocent in the talk of suicide, the brother is responsible for her murder also, I consider.

may Allah (swt) save us all-ameen.

I think so too...

[PebydataFeents]

In this case, it was the girl.

Agra: Even as the world got ready to celebrate love on Valentine's Day, a Hindu boy and a Muslim girl ended their lives in the city of the Taj following objections from their families to their relationship.

While the boy, 19-year-old Sonu shot himself, Fauziya alias Shilpi hanged herself, but her family members have spirited away her body and are themselves on the run, according to police.

Sonu shot himself with his pistol around 8.30 pm on Friday after a brief chat with someone on his mobile phone, a police official said Saturday.

The shocked shopkeepers and bystanders at the Paschimpuri crossing, where the shooting took place, rushed Sonu to a hospital, but he was declared brought dead, said the police official.

Earlier in the day, Faujiya alias Shilpi, the girl Sonu loved, hanged herself by a rope at her home, neighbours told police. According to some neighbours, she also swallowed poison to end her life.

Surya Kant Dwedi, head of Sikandra police station, said the family members of the girl, including her father Chand, have taken away the body and were on the run.

He said the police were looking for them and details of how Faujiya dead would be known only after her body was found.

Sonu, in his suicide note, referred to his love for Faujiya. He said she too loved him, but her family was opposed to their relationship and had threatened him, the police official said.

The teenager also said in his note that his family members were beaten up and and threatened with dire consequences if the young couple's love affair continued, the official added.

Police said some relatives of the girl have been questioned.

According to some neighbours, the girl was taken to a private nursing home where she collapsed and the family did not return home from there. http://zeenews.india.com/news/state-...ra_686727.html