[GogaMegaPis]

As a non muslim, I would like other muslims on this forum to give their opinion on the Scholar Tariq Ramadan and his views on Islam. Is he a well known scholar?
Thanks

[GogaMegaPis]

Does anyone have an opinion on this man? Can anyone recommend a scholar that is worth reading about? Thanks

[strmini]

Asalam Alykum WrWb. Peace and blessings be on you, May this month fill your heart with islam and may you accept islam and become among those who are righteous and follow deen firmly.

Sister, he is not a scholar or an alim. He is a TV personality, an engineer and a businessman. He grew famous from his speeches, lectures in arabic and english. He is most famous for "Kesas al anbiya" or "The stories of the Prophets", a 20 CD pack where he describes stories of all prophets in detail.

He appears on TV and television programs, changing peoples lives, bringing them to islam.

He studied in the USA and resides in Kuwait I blve.

And YES, its worth reading about such a person.

If you are interested in others:

Read about Shaykh/Scholar Hamza Yusuf

You could also read about Abdul Raheem Green as well.

[toyboy]

Asalam Alykum WrWb. Peace and blessings be on you, May this month fill your heart with islam and may you accept islam and become among those who are righteous and follow deen firmly.

Sister, he is not a scholar or an alim. He is a TV personality, an engineer and a businessman. He grew famous from his speeches, lectures in arabic and english. He is most famous for "Kesas al anbiya" or "The stories of the Prophets", a 20 CD pack where he describes stories of all prophets in detail.

He appears on TV and television programs, changing peoples lives, bringing them to islam.

He studied in the USA and resides in Kuwait I blve.

And YES, its worth reading about such a person.

If you are interested in others:

Read about Shaykh/Scholar Hamza Yusuf

You could also read about Abdul Raheem Green as well.

I've think you've got the wrong guy. Tariq Ramadan studied in Switzerland.

[antilt]

As a non muslim, I would like other muslims on this forum to give their opinion on the Scholar Tariq Ramadan and his views on Islam. Is he a well known scholar?
Thanks

I've never personally read any of Tariq Ramadan's works, but I did hear a lecture he gave about Liberalism and Islam and it was quite good. I know he's pretty famous around Europe, but he's not too well known where I am from (US).

As for scholars I would recommend learning from:

Shaykh Abd ul-Qadir al-Isa; one of his books: http://www.islamicbookstore.com/b10779.html

Shaykh Hamza Yusuf; I'd recommend his Refinement of Hearts lecture series.

Shaykh Abdullah bin Bayah; go with his Miracles of the Qur'an lectures

Shaykh Said Nursi; go with his Risale-i Nur book

Shaykh Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf

Shaykh Riyadh ul-Haqq

Shaykh Nuh Keller

Shaykh Faraz Rabbani

Shaykh Muhammad al-Yaqoubi

[GogaMegaPis]

Thank you for the replies, i want to get to know different point of views.

[drugsprevi]

Tariq Ramadan is not a scholar, he's a reformist misguided guy posing as "intellectual", who is day by day proposing even more deviated stuff.

My advice is to stay away from him.

More infos:
http://www.ummahpulse.com/2011/02/ta...-haskalah.html

[itaspCatCriny]

I suppose he is a well fitting interface between Islam and the west. In spite of enormous material advancement west has near completely destroyed its social and moral fabric and need urgent attention for its spiritual revival. And they can not do it own their own-whether they like to hear this or not. One consequence of extreme materialistic leanings of the west is that they just do not want or can not hear the conservative teachings of the religion acceptable to God. In such a situation a palatable version is being served by people like Tariq Ramadan. West has a love-hate relationship even with Tariq Ramadan. Obviously the mainstream of Islam can not approve the approach adopted by people like him and a second round of communication will one day be required to present the pristine teachings of Islam to the target audience-the west.
So much left to do!
(And of course these are my two cents.)
Wassalam

[flower-buy]

Does anyone have an opinion on this man? Can anyone recommend a scholar that is worth reading about? Thanks

If you want to read about about the lives of scholors of Islam then i would advise to read about the early generation. Start from The companions and come all the way down.

If youre saying which scholor's writing are worth reading in todays time then some names that were mentioned in previous posts would work also Shaykh Abdul Hakim Murad is excellent and has some pretty deep writing style. Another intelligent guy who often does not get noticed by simple minded people.You will find his articles and writing to be intellectually of high caliber.

http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/ahm/default.htm

[Obgrfbke]

Hamza Yusuf is a great man to listen to, he is the one who started to get me more interested into Islam.

A great guy for Quraan is Nouman Ali Khan (not a scholar though), he is fantastic for the literary miracle of the Quraan, though you mentioned you wanted to get to know "different points of view" for which he isnt what your looking for.

[GogaMegaPis]

Hamza Yusuf is a great man to listen to, he is the one who started to get me more interested into Islam.

A great guy for Quraan is Nouman Ali Khan (not a scholar though), he is fantastic for the literary miracle of the Quraan, though you mentioned you wanted to get to know "different points of view" for which he isnt what your looking for.

Thank you, I have plenty now to keep me going for a while.

[intifatry]

Hes certainly not a scholar. I dont know him but just looked the name up. He seems to be majored in philosophy and french litrature (at least in his Masters degree and Phd. He teaches Islam at Oxford and is the son of the secretary of the leader of Muslim brotherhood Hasan al Banna. It seems he just has an interest in Islam and beleifs etc. Some have criticized him for saying that Islamic laws related to hodood (punishments for stealing, murder etc) should be "put on hold" due to circumstances in Muslim countries that make it hard to apply correctly. (ie he isnt against the principle).

The above is from Arabic wiki, so take it for what its worth.

[Diandaplaipsy]

To me he is a scholar and unfortunately none of his critics here have come up with an indepth criticism of his scholarly works. Its embarrassing to be honest at times.....the man is writer, poet academic and also a Professor of Contemporary Islamic Studies in the Faculty of Oriental Studies at Oxford University.

some of his works include:

-The quest for meaning: developing a philosophy of pluralism, 2010, ISBN 978-0-14-191957-7

-What I Believe, 2009. ISBN 978-0-19-538785-8

-Radical Reform: Islamic Ethics and Liberation, 2009. ISBN 978-0-19-533171-4

-In the Footsteps of the Prophet: Lessons from the Life of Muhammad, 2007. ISBN 978-0-19-530880-8

-Western Muslims and the future of Islam, 2004. ISBN 0-19-517111-X

-Islam, the West, and the Challenge of Modernity, 2001. ISBN 0-86037-311-8

-To Be a European Muslim, 1999. ISBN 0-86037-300-2


my advise....IQRA!

read and understand his works and make up your own mind .

[Diandaplaipsy]

As a non muslim, I would like other muslims on this forum to give their opinion on the Scholar Tariq Ramadan and his views on Islam. Is he a well known scholar?
Thanks

Brother Ramadan's thinking, his methods and his personal history are all connected to the same question: Islam's encounter with the modern world. Can the youngest of the world's three great monotheisms co-exist harmoniously with the Western world and its Enlightenment legacy? Or is it fated to be reactionary, closed off from the world, an excuse for terrorism and failure?

The man is a professor at Oxford University and guess what? most of his critics havent even read his scholarly works. To me he is a scholar and has the credentials and credibility to confront Islam's modern identity on its own terms. Muslim scholars recognize that no one is more orthodox in his methods and sources, or more innovative in his conclusions. He is genuinely radical, rather than reactionary. Quiet, thoughtful and deeply religious.

I suggest you find his works, read and make up your mind. At the end of the day thats what is required to all muslims

[TolleyBoymn]

Hello,

If you're interested in a random book about Islam written by a Muslim.
I would really advice you to read 'Islam and the Destiny of man' by Charles Le Gai Eaton.

[entaifsfets]

I suggest you find his works, read and make up your mind. At the end of the day thats what is required to all muslims

His only quality is his eloquence; on religious matters he often interprets shari'ah his way and many scholars would declare him a mubtadi' at the very least...which is enough for discouraginh laymen from listening to him.

[Trebbinsa]

I'm pretty sure it was Tariq Ramadan who was on the recent BBC documentary. If I recall when he was questioned about the miracle of Me'raj he reduced it to a 'spiritual journey' and denied that the Prophet physically went to Al Quds and ascended into the heavens.

[casinobonusese]

Asalamwalaikum,
Game Theory -
I think it would be very fair to say that Tariq Ramadhan is a western academic scholar. Like you say, after all he has attained the rank of professor (and has done so at numerous institutions). Islamically however, where has he learnt his knowledge? Is he a scholar in the sense that he can be considered a 'Shaykh', a member of the 'ulema' or someone senior enough to issue a fatwa? I think not and he would agree with that assessment also.

Regarding Nouman Ali Khan - He is a very humble brother who gets genuinely annoyed if he is called either a scholar or a shaykh. As an Arabic Grammarian though, and as an Arabic linguist, his credentials are impeccable. It is from this he approaches the Quran. I think he is doing incredible work in making the Quran accessible to muslims in the US and his company Bayyinah are alhumdullilah doing quite well.
For someone not familiar with NAK, I think this lecture is absolutely superb.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfflgF_H0kY - In this he explains that the Quran is a linguistic miracle and it is hugely beneficial for us to learn Arabic to appreciate this miracle.

[Diandaplaipsy]

Asalamwalaikum,
Game Theory -
I think it would be very fair to say that Tariq Ramadhan is a western academic scholar. Like you say, after all he has attained the rank of professor (and has done so at numerous institutions). Islamically however, where has he learnt his knowledge? Is he a scholar in the sense that he can be considered a 'Shaykh', a member of the 'ulema' or someone senior enough to issue a fatwa? I think not and he would agree with that assessment also.

Regarding Nouman Ali Khan - He is a very humble brother who gets genuinely annoyed if he is called either a scholar or a shaykh. As an Arabic Grammarian though, and as an Arabic linguist, his credentials are impeccable. It is from this he approaches the Quran. I think he is doing incredible work in making the Quran accessible to muslims in the US and his company Bayyinah are alhumdullilah doing quite well.
For someone not familiar with NAK, I think this lecture is absolutely superb.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfflgF_H0kY - In this he explains that the Quran is a linguistic miracle and it is hugely beneficial for us to learn Arabic to appreciate this miracle.

Are you saying Tariq does not qualify to be called an academic scholar just because he got his accolades from a western education institution?

This resonates to what some Muslims are saying, "We are more Muslim when we are against the West or the Western values" as if our parameter to assess our behavior is our distance from or opposition to the West. They are promoting this kind of binary vision of the world that comes from a very long time back in the Muslim psyche. We have to get rid of this kind of understanding and evaluate if an act or a situation is Islamic or not, on the scale of the Islamic ethics and values per se, not against any other civilization

Our values are not based on "otherness." Our values are universal. We have to come to the understanding that it's not "us against them," it's us on the scale of our own values. This defines the place I live in. That is to say, our role in this world is to understand that we are a witness to the Islamic message before mankind.

I would like to hear your input on this thread
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ht=#post652763

[casinobonusese]

Are you saying Tariq does not qualify to be called an academic scholar just because he got his accolades from a western education institution?

This resonates to what some Muslims are saying, "We are more Muslim when we are against the West or the Western values" as if our parameter to assess our behavior is our distance from or opposition to the West. They are promoting this kind of binary vision of the world that comes from a very long time back in the Muslim psyche. We have to get rid of this kind of understanding and evaluate if an act or a situation is Islamic or not, on the scale of the Islamic ethics and values per se, not against any other civilization

Our values are not based on "otherness." Our values are universal. We have to come to the understanding that it's not "us against them," it's us on the scale of our own values. This defines the place I live in. That is to say, our role in this world is to understand that we are a witness to the Islamic message before mankind.

I would like to hear your input on this thread
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ht=#post652763

Of course he's a scholar but not in that sense. I mean do you think a PhD in Islamic Studies from the University of Geneva is equivalent to studying at one of the finest muslim universities in the world?
I think its best if i rephrase. In the UK for example, Oxford university has a very esteemed reputation. Getting a degree from there is considered more prestigious than gaining it from university of Wolverhampton. Especially since the university of wolverhampton may not even be accredited in xyz field. Now when we're dealing with islam, we have to re-evaluate our metrics. Its only because we have been completely inculcated with this western claim to universalism that we subconsciously denigrate our own institutions.
To get a Phd is what bachelors 3 years, masters 1 year, phd 3 years = 7 years. Ask someone else here, how many years education our Shaykh's have.