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Old 08-18-2011, 07:41 PM   #1
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Default [MUST LISTEN] Quame - Jalse me itminan zaruri he(short clip) BY Mo.Saad sb(d.b)
Assalamu alaikum w.w
plz must listen this short clip by Mo.Saad sb(d.b) about Quame - Jalse me itminan zaruri he,in which he also praise shaikh fazur rehman aazmi db's book named "Quame - Jalse me itminan ka wujub",also told that old tj workers pray namaz very fast for gasht,bayan etc,this is wrong.
This bayan was delivered after fajar in markaz nizamuddin on 28th april 2010.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:41 PM   #2
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Assalamu alaikum w.w
plz must listen this short clip by Mo.Saad sb(d.b) about Quame - Jalse me itminan zaruri he,in which he also praise shaikh fazur rehman aazmi db's book named "Quame - Jalse me itminan ka wujub",also told that old tj workers pray namaz very fast for gasht,bayan etc,this is wrong.
This bayan was delivered after fajar in markaz nizamuddin on 28th april 2010.
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moulana saad sb told that every tj worker must have this book.
HERE is this book in urdu
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Old 08-19-2011, 01:32 AM   #3
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Assalamu alaikum w.w
plz must listen this short clip by Mo.Saad sb(d.b) about Quame - Jalse me itminan zaruri he,in which he also praise shaikh fazur rehman aazmi db's book named "Quame - Jalse me itminan ka wujub",also told that old tj workers pray namaz very fast for gasht,bayan etc,this is wrong.
This bayan was delivered after fajar in markaz nizamuddin on 28th april 2010.
[LISTEN] [SAVE]
any br,plz summarize this clip?
br true life or any?
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Old 08-19-2011, 02:19 AM   #4
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Summary: It's necessary to rectify one's Salah. Ruku and Sajdah are commonly made very hasty, even by old workers and those who have spent 4-months. Qauma & Jalsah are (almost) non-existent. You will find (almost) no places where Salah is performed properly, no matter if Imam or Muqtadi. People are not aware of the wujub of Qauma and Jalsah, thus it's a common thing amongst them to rush in their Salah. Therefore we should train our own Salah and make our saathis trains their Salah. We should perform long Qauma and Jalsah, because there's no greater means to gain closeness to Allah than Salah. Today we rush through our Salah, because we need to do Mashwarah. We rush through our Salah, because we need to go for Gasht. Astonishing, the Dawah through which we were supposed to perfect our Ibaadah, we go propagating after ruining our Salah. Then he mentions Rasulullah efforts through out the day and his blessed feet getting swollen due to long Qiyam. He exhausted himself in Ibaadah, because exhausting onself in Ibaadah after Dawah is like protecting one's earnings.

All Arkan should be performed with the respective Azkar. One should never leave all the proven Azkar from Sunnah in any Fardh or Nafil, he gave an example of a quite long Zikr for Qaumah. It's claimed that Ahnaf say that these Azkar are for the Nawafil and the Imam is not obliged to recite them, but in reality (proper) Qaumah and Jalsah are not possible without them. Maulana sahab [DB] likes the fact about the Shafi'i method of Salah, that compared to the Ahnaf these Azkar are wajib. Amongst us (Ahnaf) these Azkar are not practised, thus no (proper) Qaumah and Jalsah are performed. Although it's narrated in a Hadith, that Allah does not even look at the Salah of a person who does not straighten his back after rising again from Ruku'.

Then he expresses his delight over reading Maulana Fadhlur Rahman 'Azmi [DB]'s treatise on the Wujub of Qaumah and Jalsah, and asked Allah ta'ala to reward him for that. He wishes from his heart that every worker should have a copy. It's a small treatise on the Wujub of Qaumah and Jalsah and the proofs for the Masnoon Azkar in these positions. In general he says the correct performance of Qaumah and Jalsah amongst Ahnaf is coming to an end. Whichever place Maulana has to go and pray as Muqtadi, he finds no satisfactoriness. Because whoever is not convinced of gaining success through Salah will not understand the importance of it's Arkan. External duties will force him to rush (through his Salah). Maulana (Ilyas or Yusuf ) used to say, that the person who combines Amal and Asbab in Yaqeen will never gain conviction on Amaal. And they are not able to benefit from Allah's being through such Amaal. (They say "Yes, Amal exist and Asbab exist also. We've to take both with us." We have no room for such a statement. Allah grants success ONLY on behalf of Amaal. One should propagate this which such an energy, that one experiences the internal conviction to change from means/situations to the commandments (of Allah). On the other hand, thinking that we leave Asbab is also wrong. Allah has put asbaab in our fitrah. The same way one needs to sleep when tired and eat when hungry, doing tijarat is a natural requirement. It'll be fulfilled, and there's no one to leave tijarat. His necessities will draw the person towards tijarat themselves. But if one mixes Asbaab and Amaal, one will never complete his conviction on Amaal. The Taleem of Fazail and Muntakhab Ahadeeth is for that purpose. To create every doer's conviction (on his actions).

Note: This is not a very literal translation.
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Old 08-19-2011, 03:43 AM   #5
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wr wb, I did hear this when I was at the markaz, though I don't remember the bayan fully.
to Maulana Abu_Uzair
Dank zu bruder True Life.

May Allah SWT bless, protect, grant ikhlaas + isteqaamatt to Maulana Saad Saheb DB, may his saaya be upon us until Qayamat. Summa Aameen. Sorry, I just love him too much (among the current Ulema).
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Old 08-19-2011, 08:31 AM   #6
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Summary: It's necessary to rectify one's Salah. Ruku and Sajdah are commonly made very hasty, even by old workers and those who have spent 4-months. Qauma & Jalsah are (almost) non-existent. You will find (almost) no places where Salah is performed properly, no matter if Imam or Muqtadi. People are not aware of the wujub of Qauma and Jalsah, thus it's a common thing amongst them to rush in their Salah. Therefore we should train our own Salah and make our saathis trains their Salah. We should perform long Qauma and Jalsah, because there's no greater means to gain closeness to Allah than Salah. Today we rush through our Salah, because we need to do Mashwarah. We rush through our Salah, because we need to go for Gasht. Astonishing, the Dawah through which we were supposed to perfect our Ibaadah, we go propagating after ruining our Salah. Then he mentions Rasulullah efforts through out the day and his blessed feet getting swollen due to long Qiyam. He exhausted himself in Ibaadah, because exhausting onself in Ibaadah after Dawah is like protecting one's earnings.

All Arkan should be performed with the respective Azkar. One should never leave all the proven Azkar from Sunnah in any Fardh or Nafil, he gave an example of a quite long Zikr for Qaumah. It's claimed that Ahnaf say that these Azkar are for the Nawafil and the Imam is not obliged to recite them, but in reality (proper) Qaumah and Jalsah are not possible without them. Maulana sahab [DB] likes the fact about the Shafi'i method of Salah, that compared to the Ahnaf these Azkar are wajib. Amongst us (Ahnaf) these Azkar are not practised, thus no (proper) Qaumah and Jalsah are performed. Although it's narrated in a Hadith, that Allah does not even look at the Salah of a person who does not straighten his back after rising again from Ruku'.

Then he expresses his delight over reading Maulana Fadhlur Rahman 'Azmi [DB]'s treatise on the Wujub of Qaumah and Jalsah, and asked Allah ta'ala to reward him for that. He wishes from his heart that every worker should have a copy. It's a small treatise on the Wujub of Qaumah and Jalsah and the proofs for the Masnoon Azkar in these positions. In general he says the correct performance of Qaumah and Jalsah amongst Ahnaf is coming to an end. Whichever place Maulana has to go and pray as Muqtadi, he finds no satisfactoriness. Because whoever is not convinced of gaining success through Salah will not understand the importance of it's Arkan. External duties will force him to rush (through his Salah). Maulana (Ilyas or Yusuf ) used to say, that the person who combines Amal and Asbab in Yaqeen will never gain conviction on Amaal. And they are not able to benefit from Allah's being through such Amaal. (They say "Yes, Amal exist and Asbab exist also. We've to take both with us." We have no room for such a statement. Allah grants success ONLY on behalf of Amaal. One should propagate this which such an energy, that one experiences the internal conviction to change from means/situations to the commandments (of Allah). On the other hand, thinking that we leave Asbab is also wrong. Allah has put asbaab in our fitrah. The same way one needs to sleep when tired and eat when hungry, doing tijarat is a natural requirement. It'll be fulfilled, and there's no one to leave tijarat. His necessities will draw the person towards tijarat themselves. But if one mixes Asbaab and Amaal, one will never complete his conviction on Amaal. The Taleem of Fazail and Muntakhab Ahadeeth is for that purpose. To create every doer's conviction (on his actions).

Note: This is not a very literal translation.
jazakallah hazrat,i thought,you should reply it
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Old 08-21-2011, 07:00 PM   #7
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assalamu alaikum
plz spread more and more this message of moulana saad haf.
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Old 08-21-2011, 08:10 PM   #8
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forgive me for my ignorance, what does qauma and jalsa mean?
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Old 08-21-2011, 08:54 PM   #9
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forgive me for my ignorance, what does qauma and jalsa mean?


Qauma is the part of Salah after ruku' and before sujud. Jalsa is between the two Sajdahs. What Hadrat Mawlana Sa'ad sahib db is saying is that we should do these two carefully with itminan rather than rush through them. He also refers to the booklet by Hadrat Shaykh al-Hadith Mawlana Fadl ar-Rahman Azmi sahib db, where he establishes the wujub for itminan in these two.
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Old 08-21-2011, 11:11 PM   #10
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when molana fadlur rehman came to my masjid this is what his bayan was about.
especially the translation
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Old 08-21-2011, 11:47 PM   #11
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when molana fadlur rehman came to my masjid this is what his bayan was about.
especially the translation
The Fake Shaykh

sometimes calling yourself 'Fake' also counts in Pride. If you are for real shaykh, then Accept it simply, don't be judgemental.there are many Ulma who are just pretenders and strving all but for catching Name and money, at least who are good they shouldn't hide themselves under the veil of 'fake'. otherwise west will but only Laugh at us.

hoping you getting me brother.

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