[PebydataFeents]

hope there isn't any retaliation from our side, because that is what they really want.
may Allah SWT save the muslim ummah. may Allah SWT grant their families lot of sabr.

[Nubtoubrem]

What is wrong wit the black community of Britain? Since they have landed on these shores they have done nothing but loot, pillage and steal.

They cant even talk properly because hip hop has become a way of life to them, is it in there genes? I remember in the 80s they were robbing gold off asian woman, and then people did nothing, well we have to start somwehere.
And whats up with there profession - mugging? Most of them are unemployed, lazy, druggies, and 25% of Britains population even though they are less in number than pakistanis, bengalis and indians. I am not being racist, I am only asking questions as I see things on the street. If there are any knowledgeable black brothers on this forum then please come forward, and speak up. Restraint is needed but sadly it is not the right thing to do. Whats up with there stupid fasion as well, wearing there jeans halfway down there trousers...? Seriously brothers and sisters what is wrong, you are not racist for speaking out against this,

[Gedominew]

What is wrong wit the black community of Britain? Since they have landed on these shores they have done nothing but loot, pillage and steal.

They cant even talk properly because hip hop has become a way of life to them, is it in there genes? I remember in the 80s they were robbing gold off asian woman, and then people did nothing, well we have to start somwehere.
And whats up with there profession - mugging? Most of them are unemployed, lazy, druggies, and 25% of Britains population even though they are less in number than pakistanis, bengalis and indians. I am not being racist, I am only asking questions as I see things on the street. If there are any knowledgeable black brothers on this forum then please come forward, and speak up. Restraint is needed but sadly it is not the right thing to do. Whats up with there stupid fasion as well, wearing there jeans halfway down there trousers...? Seriously brothers and sisters what is wrong, you are not racist for speaking out against this,

Bismilah
I read somewhere that in USA the CIA specifically targeted the blacks to make them victims of drug so the black community don't raise up and dominate and no revolution arise from them. May be it is the same in UK too and in these riots they are specifically provoked although I do see whites too involve in significant number in the videos. Wallahu alam

[Nifoziyfar]

What is wrong wit the black community of Britain? Since they have landed on these shores they have done nothing but loot, pillage and steal.

They cant even talk properly because hip hop has become a way of life to them, is it in there genes? I remember in the 80s they were robbing gold off asian woman, and then people did nothing, well we have to start somwehere.
And whats up with there profession - mugging? Most of them are unemployed, lazy, druggies, and 25% of Britains population even though they are less in number than pakistanis, bengalis and indians. I am not being racist, I am only asking questions as I see things on the street. If there are any knowledgeable black brothers on this forum then please come forward, and speak up. Restraint is needed but sadly it is not the right thing to do. Whats up with there stupid fasion as well, wearing there jeans halfway down there trousers...? Seriously brothers and sisters what is wrong, you are not racist for speaking out against this,

You are actually exercising prejudice and stereotyping unless you have evidence that indicates your accusations about them collectively since your accusation is about the collective.

Same with the comment from the sister.

Why is wearing Jeans half way down any worse the in the context of reality [we are on an Islamic forum] worse then women wearing a skirt which evidence will show that over 95% of non-muslim women have exercised in public at least once in their lifetime?

Either you are have become spot blinded since you are used to the culture of the indigenous people or you are prejudiced to black people that has stemmed from ignorance.

Do you have clue as to what Asian people have been getting up to since they got here? Statistically they were the #1 drug dealers until the Turkish Mafia recently took the lead then it was the Jamaican yardies, etc but not black people per se from Africa.

This is not a defense to prove of criminal activity but a response to you making a sweeping statement about black people

[herbalviagra]

Assalamu alaykum

Br Kashmir you are hurt. But I could not take your logics.

Can you prove that all blacks are looters, thieves?

[Tibaveriafark]

Jazakumallahu Khairan for some finally addressing those racist comments that have been being made. I first noticed them in the other thread yesterday. I can not understand how a muslim can call other humans "monkeys" etc. I was VERY offended and have been trying to think of a good way to address the issue without my emotions getting too involved. Majority of the Americans who have came into Islam here over the past several decades are black Americans. All across America I have many African American elders who have been like fathers to me over many years.

As far as the behavior of whatever people who are doing those activities in London, there can be no excuse for that. Although I would like to point out that I know of many brothers (including myself) who used to be thieves, drug dealers, getting in shootouts, etc. and by the grace of Allah Islam has saved us from that life style. While myself and others would agree that we still have alot of work to do, but Alhamdulillah we are VERY far from where we came from. We should hate actions, not people. Forgive me if I said anything out of order. Allah and his Rasool (SAW) know best

[pouslytut]

Aslamualaykum,

The sabr and heartfelt plea this man has shown through this tragedy is remarkable and we should be proud that it is coming from a Muslim.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-14481061

[Nubtoubrem]

You are actually exercising prejudice and stereotyping unless you have evidence that indicates your accusations about them collectively since your accusation is about the collective.

Same with the comment from the sister.

Why is wearing Jeans half way down any worse the in the context of reality [we are on an Islamic forum] worse then women wearing a skirt which evidence will show that over 95% of non-muslim women have exercised in public at least once in their lifetime?

Either you are have become spot blinded since you are used to the culture of the indigenous people or you are prejudiced to black people that has stemmed from ignorance.

Do you have clue as to what Asian people have been getting up to since they got here? Statistically they were the #1 drug dealers until the Turkish Mafia recently took the lead then it was the Jamaican yardies, etc but not black people per se from Africa.

This is not a defense to prove of criminal activity but a response to you making a sweeping statement about black people

Salam

My comment about the jeans was towards the males, not the females and was not a question to degrade, but to point out the stupidness of such a fasion statement. Call me backward you may, but I dont see many whites or asians wearing these types of clothes. Skirts are even worn by so called muslim girls, and plus it was not meant to be in that way (my comment)

The reason why I am jumping on the black jamaican community (ok, Before i was generalising, it is mainyl carribbean youths, not Somalis) is because I work in the city centre of Birmingham and 95% of the people I have seen that are looting look like they are from the black Caribbean community, unless the whites and pakis have tricked us all with some new make up. Now when one part of a community is so heavily involved in a crime that is affecting thousands upon thousands of people, you have a right to say something, and to try and stop i (if not physically, then at least speak out against it). I have also mentioned in my previous posts that there are also whites doing this, and pakis too, but I feel after looking at the scenes first hand that they are just being less opportunistic than the actual looters and are kind of on the fringes.

And, no, I am not prejudiced or racist towards black people. This may sound like a cliche but I have a lot of black mates, and some of the company I keep is of black brothers (and black non muslims)

Also regarding your comment about drugdealers are mainly asian, I dont dispute that. However according to percentages there are more likely to be young blacks involved in drug dealing than asians. And thats simply because there is a higher asian population. The stats are out there on google on prison populations, look it up for yourself

In fact when I approached one of these looters and asked them 'whats the reason behind this' they simply said it a was a quick raise, and that the shops deserved to be robbed. Obviously there are racial elements involved within that answer, as most of the businesses and shops in London and Birmingham are owned by muslims...So if anything I am standing up for my right to speak out against cowardice and mindless vandalism by one community towards another community..

I encourage you and others on this forum to join me also....

[LfYaRf1S]

Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilayhi Raji'oon

What has happened is tragic.

I think Brother Kashmir does needs to excersie some restraint, it could be argued what the black community are doing we asians are following in the same hole - just look around. though in some instances i may agree with him without being a racist - but truth be said we are not far behind!

It was mentioned by people that their were aisans looting in the handsworth area.

Infact there were many white people looting in london too.

just look at our own brothers trying to imitate the black community - EVERY asian (believe me huge chunk) in the lozells / aston area who is a youth is trying to immitate them wearing his jeans all the way down, and garms, and chains even to the extent of having their ears pierced!!!!

Just yesterday my brother was coming from work from nechells making foot mission (because if he catches bus that would go through city centre) because that would make him avoid looters and hooligans. And one black looter all masked up alone carrying a stick was also on the same road and said to my bro what you looking at, my bro replied nothing, and the hooligan said "what did you say", my bro replied "i am fasting bro leave it you carry on", then the hooligan tried hitting my bro with the stick, my bro ended up giving him a severe beating - just goes to show who is corssing the board lines.

anyway there was a meeting today with the police and they told everyone to go out on the streets to protect their community, and i heard there will be apparently a bigg gathering on lozells road. people from the rock coming, bradford, manchester, london, sheffield, leeds etc are coming.

I just hope they dont come, because after what happened i dont think no riotor / looter / thief will dare step foot in lozells or aston - so just leave it as that and let the cops deal with the case.

Wallahu a'lam.

[Nubtoubrem]

Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilayhi Raji'oon

What has happened is tragic.

I think Brother Kashmir does needs to excersie some restraint, it could be argued what the black community are doing we asians are following in the same hole - just look around. though in some instances i may agree with him without being a racist - but truth be said we are not far behind!

It was mentioned by people that their were aisans looting in the handsworth area.

Infact there were many white people looting in london too.

just look at our own brothers trying to imitate the black community - EVERY asian (believe me huge chunk) in the lozells / aston area who is a youth is trying to immitate them wearing his jeans all the way down, and garms, and chains even to the extent of having their ears pierced!!!!

Just yesterday my brother was coming from work from nechells making foot mission (because if he catches bus that would go through city centre) because that would make him avoid looters and hooligans. And one black looter all masked up alone carrying a stick was also on the same road and said to my bro what you looking at, my bro replied nothing, and the hooligan said "what did you say", my bro replied "i am fasting bro leave it you carry on", then the hooligan tried hitting my bro with the stick, my bro ended up giving him a severe beating - just goes to show who is corssing the board lines.

anyway there was a meeting today with the police and they told everyone to go out on the streets to protect their community, and i heard there will be apparently a bigg gathering on lozells road. people from the rock coming, bradford, manchester, london, sheffield, leeds etc are coming.

I just hope they dont come, because after what happened i dont think no riotor / looter / thief will dare step foot in lozells or aston - so just leave it as that and let the cops deal with the case.

Wallahu a'lam.

Inshallah I hope they do come just to shut up all the blacks. The wierd thing about this is now that most people in he black community and there communitly leaders are calling this an 'insurrection' and are not even condemning this violence.

I think it says a lot about a community when they are all supportive of there kids going around doing what they do best - mugging and theiving.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biJgILxGK0o

[HondasMenFox]

I was reallly sad when I heard about this incident.

May ALLAH ta'ala accept these three brothers as Shuhada and give sabr to their families!

[Gedominew]

You are actually exercising prejudice and stereotyping unless you have evidence that indicates your accusations about them collectively since your accusation is about the collective.

Same with the comment from the sister.

Bismillah
Sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I was not speaking against black community. I was just saying they are specifically targeted to oppress them like with drugs and this I read in unjust media website like how CIA played its wicked role in that and so I have sympathy towards the black people. I do not know who exactly are involved in the riots as I didn't witness and in the other post when the member told that it is mostly blacks, I presented the video saying it has more whites. So when the brother said that who witnessed, I was just trying to say perhaps it is being projected to put black people in bad light when there are whites too. I read even in prisons work is extracted from black people as the old age slavery. Sorry if I hurt anyone. Allahu alam.

[xrumerang]

I was reallly sad when I heard about this incident.

May ALLAH ta'ala accept these three brothers as Shuhada and give sabr to their families!

You have not yet seen the real crisis. The evil is determined to cause a bloodbath. This riot
is just a pilot run , an exercise to test their abilities. If the Muslims in the UK do not get
guns and other weapons , soon they will see the fate of those millions of Russians massacred in USSR ( old Russia ) during the communist rule. Check the following video in youtube to know How clever and brutal the evil is .

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http://www.jyrilina.com/index.php?pa...s-of-communism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4__jeW7D-o

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For in depth analysis of the riot , see this thread.

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...e-middle-class

[icerrelmCam]

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajioun

What a trajedy!; may Allah make tham all shaeed and give their families sabr and ability to cope ameen

[Injurnerona]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD5EI...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKVUa...embedded#at=21

[new-nickname-zanovo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD5EI...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKVUa...embedded#at=21

I m taken aback. The insistence of the Father on following Islamic ways even after his son passed away. Indeed Allah has given him intelligence and restrain.

[WenPyclenoWex]

The Janazah Prayer (Funeral) for the 3 Muslims Brothers who were murdered in Birmingham will be held on Thursday 3pm at Summerfield Park, Dudley Road, Soho B16 0BJ by Shaikh Al-Yaqoubi. But this date may CHANGE, & people will not be able to see the bodies due to the state of them. The amount of people expected to be attending is 50,000 plus.
Please Try To Attend Or pray for the 3 Brothers Or Send Eesale Thawab