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Old 12-19-2009, 01:01 AM   #21
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Even though this is a side question, and one not very relevant to the topic at hand, but I was wondering if "Shaikh al-Islam" is a correct title for Shaikh Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab .
I recent heard a Hanafi shaikh from LA tell me that Shah Waliullah called Shaikh AbdulWahaab 'Shaikh al-Islaam' and it you read the works of Shaikh Bakr Abu Zayd he also calls him Shaikh al-Islaam. Different people have different criteria for the title, so I don't think we should make a big deal of it one way or that other. No one can deny that Shaikh Muhammad bin AbdulWahaab made a great impact on the Muslim Ummah, May Allah reward him and bless him.
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Old 12-19-2009, 01:08 AM   #22
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And by salafi, they mean, are you in tune with those who follow Shaykhul Islam Muhammad ibn 'Abdil Wahhab (Allah yarhamuh).

Regardless of what you call it, is your understanding in line with his or with the generations of 4/madhhabs of fiqh and 2 'aqidah and tariqah's in tasawwuf.

Your fiqh is hanbali, but what's your 'aqidah and views on tasawwuf

Basically, are you a traditionalist, or a reformist (Catholic or protestant)
I have no idea what you mean by "traditionalist, or a reformist" I can say for sure I am not Catholic or protestant Al-humdulillah I am Muslim, and upon the Kitaab of Allah and Sunnah of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم as clearly understood by the Sahaabah and those who followed them like Imaam Ahlus Sunnah, Imaam Ahmad bin Hanbal and Shaikh al-Islaam Ibn Qudaamah al-Madasi and others.

If you want to know what is that Aqeedah read the book Lum’at ul-‘Itiqaad by Shaikh al-Islaam Ibn Qudaamah al-Madasi.

May Allah have mercy on all the scholars of Islaam.
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Old 12-19-2009, 02:39 AM   #23
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By tradionalist or reformist, I mean, is your outlook, on 'aqidah and tasawwuf closer to Shaykh ibn 'Abdil Wahhab, and those who are influnced by him (like ibn Baz, ibn 'Uthaymin, al Albani) or are you closer to maturidi/ash'ari and accept the generality of sufism (naqshabandi, chisti, qadiri, suhrawardi, shadhili, mawlawi etc.) as a valid tradition.

Just suggesting to be direct. It seems like you are salafi in outlook, but prefer not to use the title. You seem to imply it here and there, but I could be wrong.

Better rephrase: In 'aqidah and tasawwuf, are you're views more in line w/ Shaykh 'Abdul Fattah Abu Ghudda, Shaykh Muhammad Zahid al Kawthari, Haji Imdadullah Muhajir Makki, or more in line with Shaykh ibn 'Uthaymin, Shaykh ibn Baz, Shaykh Abdur Rahman as Sa'di (of Saudi)?

Just be direct and honest is all.
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Old 12-19-2009, 01:20 PM   #24
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as Salamu alaikum,

"No one can deny that Shaikh Muhammad bin AbdulWahaab made a great impact on the Muslim Ummah"

I guess that says it all.....

Not even Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab's father agreed with him. Seriously, what impact did he have on the Ummah that was positive ?
People, even some deobandis, praise these Ulama and do not even know the Fitna that they caused and are causing today. It bothers me that some people do not realize how dangerous it is to follow someone who deems other Muslims to be disbelievers.

Another thing, why is it so hard to get "Hanbalis" to admit that they are Hanbalis ? Why don't they just say that they are Hanbali instead of saying that they follow the Qu'ran and Sunnah ?

Why make that distinction ? the follower of any of the four Madhhabs follows the Qu'ran and Sunnah.
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Old 12-19-2009, 02:49 PM   #25
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Didn't Abdul Wahab later support his son ?

Oh, and Shah Waliullah died before Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab , so I doubt he would refer to him as Shaikh al-Islam.
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:36 AM   #26
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Just suggesting to be direct. It seems like you are salafi in outlook, but prefer not to use the title. You seem to imply it here and there, but I could be wrong.

Better rephrase: In 'aqidah and tasawwuf, are you're views more in line w/ Shaykh 'Abdul Fattah Abu Ghudda, Shaykh Muhammad Zahid al Kawthari, Haji Imdadullah Muhajir Makki, or more in line with Shaykh ibn 'Uthaymin, Shaykh ibn Baz, Shaykh Abdur Rahman as Sa'di (of Saudi)?

Just be direct and honest is all.
I am Hanbali is Fiqh and in Aqeedah on the manhaj of the salaf us saliheen and fully support the writing of the scholars such as Shaikh Naasir as Sa'adi.
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Old 12-26-2009, 08:29 AM   #27
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I am Hanbali is Fiqh and in Aqeedah on the manhaj of the salaf us saliheen and fully support the writing of the scholars such as Shaikh Naasir as Sa'adi.
Just a query, what do you think of those scholars who have taken the Tariqa and worn the Sufi cloak from the Hanabilah? A number of Hanabilah who took the cloak are mentioned by Hafidh ibn Rajab. Have you read the different thabat of the scholars in the 11th century? They were big on tasawwuf as well, not to mention, i recently came upon a work of a recent Hanbali, the book is a continuation of the tabaqat al-hanabilah and he lists many differen hanabliah who took the path.

I would like your thoughts on this.
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Old 06-30-2011, 03:56 AM   #28
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aslam alaikum brother
i want to join hanbali madhab please tell me where is ulmai hanbali then i will contact us
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Old 06-30-2011, 03:58 AM   #29
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I think you must mean the Ahlus Sunnah of the Indian subcontinent because I have been to Saudi Arabia, the Gulf, Jordan and never heard this term used in regards to scholars. I am not saying it is harram to use it or anything like that, I just think it is funny when someone calls themselves 'Mawlana' or says 'Yes I am a Mawlana' and Allah knows best.
asalam alaikum brother
i want to join hanbali madhab can u tell me fiqh habali sites and how i can recieve fiqh habali books
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Old 06-30-2011, 04:07 AM   #30
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asalam alaikum brother
i want to join hanbali madhab can u tell me fiqh habali sites and how i can recieve fiqh habali books


There are a few Hanbali-related resources available at Kalamullah. There's also a translation of Zad al-Mustaqni (pretty complete Hanbali fiqh book) out there somewhere- I've seen it at a few different forums. Sheikh Munajjid's fatwa website (well known) is essentially Hanbali as well- he references al-Mughni more than anything else in it.

Alternately, the Summary of Islamic Jurisprudence by Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan is essentially Hanbali and so are the works of Shaykh ibn Uthaymeen and Shaykh Bin Baaz which are very readily available.
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Old 08-16-2011, 06:18 AM   #31
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As Salaam Alaikum wa Rahmatullah,

There are weekly classes based on the Hanbali Fiqh Manual 'al-'Umdah.' These classes are in San Diego Ca. If you are in Southern California then you can join the classes in person. If you are unable to attend in person you can follow the classes online @ http://ibnfarooq.com/lessons.html if you want to be in touch with Hanbali scholars, please email me and I can get you in touch with a few ibnfarooq@yahoo.com
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