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Old 08-05-2011, 01:14 AM   #1
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Default Shia dawut can i go?
Assalaamulaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

I have been invited to a dawut by a friend who is shia,
i am aware that we shouldn't eat their food, especially their meat (no idea why) (anyone care to explain)

i also know that their meat is 100% halal as i know who the supplier is...

is it okay if i go?
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Old 08-05-2011, 01:18 AM   #2
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Assalaamulaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

I have been invited to a dawut by a friend who is shia,
i am aware that we shouldn't eat their food, especially their meat (no idea why) (anyone care to explain)

i also know that their meat is 100% halal as i know who the supplier is...

is it okay if i go?


My advice is Better to avoid it sister. Not just about the food, the conversations etc etc.
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Old 08-05-2011, 01:25 AM   #3
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No don't go. Boycot them by all means. Their food is haram anyway. If you still plan to go, don't eat any meat since you don't know how they cook them and whether they take food from somewhere else.
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Old 08-05-2011, 05:33 AM   #4
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No don't go. Boycot them by all means. Their food is haram anyway. If you still plan to go, don't eat any meat since you don't know how they cook them and whether they take food from somewhere else.
why is their food haraam? if they send round to food to my house?do i bin it? waste much?
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Old 08-05-2011, 05:44 AM   #5
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they live 2 doors away from me, I've known them all my life, i know that their beliefs are wrong and to be honest they aren't the most practising shia's how am i supposed to "boycott" them...
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Old 08-05-2011, 06:25 AM   #6
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why is their food haraam? if they send round to food to my house?do i bin it? waste much?
You're.... Joking right? If your Christian neighbor sent you some pork would u eat it? Because if you dont that would be wasting too you know. And we really wouldn't want that now would we.

I think u need to read up a whole lot more on Shias to understand fully what you're dealing with. To eat food from people whose religious code is to defile the Sahabah is pretty low. And if you're seriously even considering it... Let's just say you shouldn't be talking about how staunch Shias they are but how much of a Muslim are you yourself
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Old 08-05-2011, 07:05 AM   #7
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lol@sister yumna

sister ilmun nuur, if i called your mum a prostitute and then invited you for dinner would you come?

the shia say some horrendous things, please stay away from them. i know its hard on the heart, mashallah you seem to have a good heart, but remember these people are invoking the curse and wrath of Allah with the evil they are saying. some of them are worse than kuffar.

if it helps, i can pysche you up a bit before turning down the invite by showing you what they have to say on the brothers and sisters being crushed in syria:


shiachat(dot)com/forum/index.php?/topic/234992235-hama-crackdown-new-phase-in-syrian-unrest/page__p__2233909#entry2233909

you need to delete the (dot) and put a . in

here is an extract:

"Arabs are pure trash. I am not Arab, neither are any Syrians or Lebanese people.

We should change our language, our lettering system, completely isolate ourselves from these barbaric people"

Originally Posted by Schrodinger


read through some of their posts and you'll see why they are so hated here
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Old 08-05-2011, 07:47 AM   #8
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Although Shia beliefs are blatantly wrong, we should not also forget that some shias dont even know what they believe, that is the level of their faith.
Just like you get sunni muslims who dont really know islam, you do also get shia muslims who dont actually know what their sect teaches.
Their have been cases when non-practicing shias are told about some of their beliefs and they in turn are shocked at what they should believe.

We shouldnt be so narrow minded to brand anyone who calls themselves a Shia as a kaafir or something else, since we dont always know if they
are aware of some of their teachings, again the parallel is with our own Sunni brothers. I know brothers who didnt know what ghusl was or when it was required,
but once taught they practiced it, just like some shias who when told what their belief was, taken from sources such as the Ayatollah, they left their sect.

Im not saying thats the norm, but we should keep that in mind, especially when the brother has said that they arent practicing.
As regards to the conversations which may occur, what about them? Maybe this is a chance to educate them, if they arent practicing any discourse may be of benefit.
If they were practicing shias then I would advise against it, because practicing shias from my own experience know their stuff and I've seen them run circles
around others.
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Old 08-05-2011, 08:15 AM   #9
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Peace be upon you all,

I am not living with you guys so I don't know the situation but in order to keep my conscience clear I will advise you:

"Stay away from the Shia they are a Fitnah."

especially in matter of religion they are corrupt to the core and they hide it.
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Old 08-05-2011, 12:07 PM   #10
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As-salamu ´alaykum,

It is one thing to say that you should stay away from the Shi´a in general. But there are also exeptions to this "rule". After all, they are your neighbours. One cannot say that their food is haram without evidence if it is known that they get their meat from the same butchers like everyone else.

wa'Llahu a'lam
wassalam
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Old 08-05-2011, 09:30 PM   #11
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My dear sister may be you dread breaking hearts. Is this the case? If yes then tell me when will come the time when we will start acting according to the decree of our Lord Most High? If you act today then may be soon you'll break your heart too from this world. Break your heart rather than breaking your deen.
Wassalam
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Old 08-05-2011, 09:32 PM   #12
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Assalaamulaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

I have been invited to a dawut by a friend who is shia,
i am aware that we shouldn't eat their food, especially their meat (no idea why) (anyone care to explain)

i also know that their meat is 100% halal as i know who the supplier is...

is it okay if i go?
WHATTT... go to a shia dawut??? lol! i suggest you stay far, far, far away from them...! really, dont befriend the shias unless they thinking of changing their beleifs or sumthing... but plz, plz pleeze dont go for their dawut okay??? theres a great possibility that your health, wealth and Iemaan maybe effected! lol. but serious PLEAZE DONT GO.
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Old 08-05-2011, 09:33 PM   #13
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Bismillah
I think the sister already said they are not practicing shia. So my advise would be the same as the other but invite them to your place and give them subtle dawah. Do not get into relegious conversation with them but focus on the 5 fundementle. As for food tell them where you get your meat and food stuff from casually and enquire where they get their stuff.
If they are ignorant in thier shism, they will adopt sunni islam any way by the virtue of their education. Do not go down the route, we sunni, you shia. Most ignorant shia could not care less. No matter what always be good neigbour. This is the rights of neighbour.
Allahualam

Akhi in my experience Shia as a rule are highly educated so any subtle Dawah is sort of of out of question. May be other brothers can have a better perspective.
Wassalam
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Old 08-05-2011, 09:38 PM   #14
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Assalamu alaykum.

A senior person advised me that the shia mix some xyz into the food before they offer it to sunnis. Even if he is very close to them.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:20 AM   #15
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Assalaamulaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

I have been invited to a dawut by a friend who is shia,
i am aware that we shouldn't eat their food, especially their meat (no idea why) (anyone care to explain)

i also know that their meat is 100% halal as i know who the supplier is...

is it okay if i go?
Salaam Sister

I read this post and read all the comments provided to you by different brother and sisters. It was nice laughing session for me. Tell me, did you get from all these answers , what you asked?? e.g why their meat is haram etc etc? Or did you get what Allah forbids muslims to do " La tafarraqu".

To see the difference i advice you to post this same question on any shia forum and read the answer. Here you will not find anything other than fitna.

and do not mix up with one of the example given to you by another sister regarding christian sending you pork because pork is something haram by Allah.

From sunnah i give you one example and this example implies also if you believe that shias are out of islam.

Anas, a close Companion of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) reported, "A Jewish woman brought a poisoned lamb to the Prophet, and he ate of it. When the woman was brought to him, people suggested, 'Shall we kill her?' The Prophet said, 'No.' I have recognized the effects of that poisoning in the Prophet's throat ever since." (Al-Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawood, Ahmad, and others).

JazakAllah

May Allah guide our muslim brothers and sisters from creating fitna out of such small questions and guide all of us for muslim unity.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:31 AM   #16
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how can people say that some shias do not understand their own beliefs? for them to identify themselves as shias then they must have some understanding of their beliefs, otherwise they would not identify themselves as shia. and surely they will be taught from an early age that as shias, they are different from sunnis and will be taught that sunni islam is wrong for xyz reasons and an aversion to sunni islam will have been inculcated into them?
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:42 AM   #17
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Some of the comments are really absurd in my honest opinion.
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Old 08-06-2011, 08:01 AM   #18
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how can people say that some shias do not understand their own beliefs? for them to identify themselves as shias then they must have some understanding of their beliefs, otherwise they would not identify themselves as shia. and surely they will be taught from an early age that as shias, they are different from sunnis and will be taught that sunni islam is wrong for xyz reasons and an aversion to sunni islam will have been inculcated into them?
Not really, I was brought up as a Sunni. My parents taught me that I should be a good muslim, to pray 5 times a day and always supported and showered praise on all of their children when they did something Islamic. Yet in all my years, I never knew what a Shia was. It was only in the last 2 years or so of high school was I aware of the Sunni/Shia split, and only 2 years ago when I actually found out what they believe.

Just saying your a Sunni or your a Shia doesnt mean you necessarily know what your sect preaches. Just like a Sunni who doesnt really practice and doesnt know his religion, the same goes for some Shias. Of course, from experience, Shia's tend to know their stuff a lot more but you do still get a few Shias who are unaware of the true teachings of their faith, just like the more numerous Sunni's who dont really know what they believe.
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Old 08-06-2011, 08:16 AM   #19
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Assalaamulaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

I have been invited to a dawut by a friend who is shia,
i am aware that we shouldn't eat their food, especially their meat (no idea why) (anyone care to explain)

i also know that their meat is 100% halal as i know who the supplier is...

is it okay if i go?
It is definitely not ok for you to go.
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:02 AM   #20
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Funny, no one has given the sister a straight answer why she shouldn't eat food cooked by her Shia neighbours

someone mentioned that Shia's are highly educated, this is true and i guess the only way to interact with them intellectually is for us Sunni's stop arguing without facts to back up our arguments.

I stand to be corrected.
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