[Serttyfd]

uncle muadh i got a warning for saying stuff against the ****es... so I better keep my nose out of this thread otherwise sunniforum goodbye...

With regards to shia those that insult sahabah no compromise....... yes give dawah first after that if i was amir you dont want to know what i would do to them.

but those that dont insult the sahabah then its a different story.

with regards to the political situation we could use the shias for our own purposes like the americans used the afghan mujahideen for their own purposes. In that sense it would be ok but no way would i ever want a shia to lead me...

[vaalmerruutel]

Keep a reasonable distance but avoid fitna.

[bawayTeen]

Salam all,

There is a famous saying

'Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies even closer'

[iNYZgxNC]

The name of the movie is 'Coolie' , and not 'Quli'

[VonErmad4]

uncle muadh i got a warning for saying stuff against the ****es... so I better keep my nose out of this thread otherwise sunniforum goodbye...

With regards to shia those that insult sahabah no compromise....... yes give dawah first after that if i was amir you dont want to know what i would do to them.

but those that dont insult the sahabah then its a different story.

with regards to the political situation we could use the shias for our own purposes like the americans used the afghan mujahideen for their own purposes. In that sense it would be ok but no way would i ever want a shia to lead me...

salamz just saw this thread 2day and wanna say thumbs up 2 this post! onlyyy i think all shias do insult at least sum of the sahaba of rasulullah salahhualaihiwasallam... i wud'nt sit with a shia even if i get paid to! unless for course its to debate. lol

[CarrieSexy]

Iran like any other government has it's interests and has its Racial problems But you should all know that Iran is not ruled by one Man like Saudi or Egypt, in Iran each group is living in its own world for example the Revolutionary Guard has it's Politics, Religious leaders have thier own Politics and several views, Ahmadi Nijad is in a different planet with different politics, The Ministers have thier own thing as well.
And while Iran's policy might Have a good policy in some countries like Lebanon In others it might have a different Policy besides The Leaders are Split and Iran as a government does not have complete control over many Shiite militias...
However it cannot be Denied that they Have ADOPTED the policy of resistance Simply because the Arena was Clear, in other words No arab Country assumed that Role so Iran took the Chance and that is only Logical as it also helps advertise for the Persian Islamic Revolution.
I cannot deny the fact that Iran was and still is Aiding Everysingle Sunni Fundamentalist Armed resistance from HAMAS to Jihad islami to Al Tawheed to Jabha Islamiyah... So they are strebghtening all who oppose Israel and America in that region..
As for my experience with the Shiites I'm living in Dubai and at the moment my bestFreind is a Shiite and they are split into three groups The First group Hates The Sahaba and the Sunnah and repeat nonesense Propagandas because they have been brainwashed to do so and they have no idea what they are doing, so basically this is a group of Ignorants that can be Found Mainly in Iraq and they just repeat what thier parents have told them when they were children without looking into it, but these guys are not to be considered Kuffar because many of them Don't even Curse the Sahaba or pray for Graves or anything of that sorts but they stil beleive in some "stories".
Second Group are the Shiite propagandists and these are usually extremists that can be found in any religion and they spread hate and False Stories while fully knowing what they are doing at some points, These can be Considered kuffar from my point of view Only if they Make Takfir on the Sahaba or the sunnah or Denounce he Quran or Pray to Graves or Say that the Imamah is Higher than Prophethood...
Third group is a correctional movment which is spreading pretty fast amongst thier ranks, They do not hate the Sahaba and hold nothing against them, Some ofthem Complement the Sahaba and Talk positively about Omar and Abu Bakr and accept the Fact that Ali and Jafaar have named thierChildren after the Sahaba and that sunnah and shiites are brothers in Islam and thse guys are welcomed by many Educted sunnah from the Otherside such as Qaradawi ... Basically these Guys are in no Way Kuffar or enemies in fact Some of them are closer to sunnah than ur average classic Shiite (BTW these guys are found in very large numbers today thus we cannot includethem in Takfir at all).

Anyway we should welcome the Shiites with open arms as long as there is no Cursing becaus the rest of the stuff is irrelevant when compared to cursing and Even if they don't convert to the sunni path yet Many of them will leave the old extrmist ways and start to become moderate muslims Whereas if we Shun them and Isolate tem they will Increase in Ghulu and Extremism.

From a political Point of view IRAN and TURKIYA are Irrepleceable allies and Our Dumb Leaders should know how to deal with them propely and not create more illusionary enemies BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ONE ENEMY AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT.

im sorry bro but im onna have to disagree with you on this one and agree with the rest of the brothers. i know you lean towards brotherhood and bringing muslims together and overlooking differences, and thats good and im all for it, to a degree.

as you'll know from my posts, i full support, for example, unity between salafis and deobandis and not having debates about asma wasifaat and moderate tassawuf.

but shia have problems in FUNDAMENTALS. and i wouldnt doubt if iran have a secret pact with america. shia are allowed to lie and they know they are outnumbered by sunnis. in my oppinion iran is playing a game. saudi or pakistan would never get the same leeway that iran gets. notice how america invades iraq and makes it shia, invades afghanistan and takes away shariah, they attack yemen and somalia with drones, etc etc, yet they havent once touched iran.

i will never support them as a political group, i think peple are being duped by them, i will never give them a penny of money, i will never cooperate with them, i will never pray behind them, i would only befriend them to give them dawah.

the shia are another obstacle for us, we need to defeat the shia and the kuffar. salahuddin rahimahullah wiped out the fatimids and then took out the crusaders

[Bridgester]

Salam

Calm down lads, its Ramadhan, For what its worth pray for the ummah to unit, and stop factional politics. Why are we pressured into supporting either Saudi, Iran or IndoPak?

Do Duah that we unite

[CarrieSexy]

i aint uniting with noone who curses our mother. if i call your mum a prostitute will you call for unity with me?

[drmarshallusa]

Close enough to make a difference and reach the right path.Although whatever sins the person does it will effect him if he does not asks for forgiveness.Each individual is different and the sunnis are in disagreement with the belief of shias but not against the shia individuals.And when the time comes, it is the right of the shia to have help from the sunnis and same goes with the sunnis.As they are as well muslims.

Considering a smaller sect of ithna asharis in shias, they are rather absurd and one must stay away from their believes.

[VonErmad4]

Close enough to make a difference and reach the right path.Although whatever sins the person does it will effect him if he does not asks for forgiveness.Each individual is different and the sunnis are in disagreement with the belief of shias but not against the shia individuals.And when the time comes, it is the right of the shia to have help from the sunnis and same goes with the sunnis.As they are as well muslims.

Considering a smaller sect of ithna asharis in shias, they are rather absurd and one must stay away from their believes.

all shias are absurb...!

[Tjfyojlg]

im sorry bro but im onna have to disagree with you on this one and agree with the rest of the brothers. i know you lean towards brotherhood and bringing muslims together and overlooking differences, and thats good and im all for it, to a degree.

as you'll know from my posts, i full support, for example, unity between salafis and deobandis and not having debates about asma wasifaat and moderate tassawuf.

but shia have problems in FUNDAMENTALS. and i wouldnt doubt if iran have a secret pact with america. shia are allowed to lie and they know they are outnumbered by sunnis. in my oppinion iran is playing a game. saudi or pakistan would never get the same leeway that iran gets. notice how america invades iraq and makes it shia, invades afghanistan and takes away shariah, they attack yemen and somalia with drones, etc etc, yet they havent once touched iran.

i will never support them as a political group, i think peple are being duped by them, i will never give them a penny of money, i will never cooperate with them, i will never pray behind them, i would only befriend them to give them dawah.

the shia are another obstacle for us, we need to defeat the shia and the kuffar. salahuddin rahimahullah wiped out the fatimids and then took out the crusaders

السلام عليكم

You're disagreeing with me on a post from about three years ago? who told you I still hold the same opinions? the more you read the more knowledge you get and the more experience you have as time passes.

[Bridgester]

i aint uniting with noone who curses our mother. if i call your mum a prostitute will you call for unity with me?

Br Dawud there are good and bad everywhere. Just with the Rafaawidh the bad apple stayed in the cart too long. I will obviously go into more details after Ramdhan but the kaafir dnt distinguish between salafi shia deo brel, etc. for them a muslim is a valid target.

[CarrieSexy]

السلام عليكم

You're disagreeing with me on a post from about three years ago? who told you I still hold the same opinions? the more you read the more knowledge you get and the more experience you have as time passes.

wa alaykum salaam bro. i apologise. i didnt realise it was an old article. my mistake akhi. alhamdulillah you changed your oppinion and thats the main thing


for everyone else. here is what the shia think about the uprising in syria:

http://www.*************/forum/index...syrian-unrest/

you think they want to do anything for islam? they only want to do something for shias

[CarrieSexy]

incidentally here is what the barelwis think of you too:

http://***************/showthread.php?p=14306

[Britfunclubs]

No, Im not shia, but I've seen a lot of Shia bashing on this board. We need to help guide the brothers instead of "bashing" them. Everyone needs the mercy of Allah on the Day of Judgement. I know some Shias that have become Sunnis because of the behavior of their fellow brethren, but they say had they know earlier what hatred some of the folks had in their hearts, they might have not switched over. We must learn to love everyone and learn to spread the deen in a peaceful and respectful manner.