[Super-Luser]

Salam Alaykum,

It seems as if there are extremely many problem in Central Asia for anyone who wants to practice Islam even with a fraction of superficiality. The latest example:

http://gulfnews.com/news/world/other...rches-1.841300

Dushnbe: Tajikistan moved a step closer on Thursday to banning children and teens from worshipping in mosques in a bid to curb Islamic fundamentalism, amid criticism from religious leaders.

The upper house of parliament unanimously adopted a "parental responsibility" bill, which would ban those under 18 from praying in churches and mosques and would require them to study in secular schools.

The bill now goes to President Emomali Rahmon, who backed the legislation and is expected to sign it.

"The current law aims to protect interests of the coming generation of Tajikistan," the chairman of the upper chamber of parliament, Makhmadsaid Ubaydullayev, said in a statement.

Authorities in the ex-Soviet state have said the new law is needed to prevent the spread of religious fundamentalism in the overwhelmingly Muslim nation, but religious leaders have condemned it.

"It's a black day for Muslims. Even in Soviet times, such punitive measures and religious persecution did not exist," prominent Muslim theologist Akbar Turadzhonzoda, a former deputy prime minister, said last month after the lower chamber of parliament supported the measure.

"If the state doesn't want to, the people will defend their faith themselves," he has said.

The impoverished state shares a 1,340-kilometre (840-mile) border with Afghanistan.

The secular government of the nation of 7.5 million people has accused religious groups of stoking unrest in a bid to impose Islamic rule.

Rahmon, who has ruled Tajikistan since the early 1990s, called home students from religious schools abroad last autumn, saying the institutions "prepare terrorists".

[AndyScouchek]

They wish to put His light out with their mouths. But He will perfect His light, even though the disbelievers hate it. [61:8]

[panholio]

They wish to put His light out with their mouths. But He will perfect His light, even though the disbelievers hate it. [61:8]

This is most definitely the truth.

However, what this devil is doing is a political act of oppression which Muslims must resist. As An Nabi (saaw) instructed when a "brother" oppresses, we are to STOP him from oppressing.

This DEVIL is taking guidance from the Chinese Communist party which institutes similiar rules.

There are an estimated 100-200 million Muslims in China but the CCP only recognizes 50 million. This party of devils and those who follow them must be stopped!!!!

[WoCTrt0X]

This is most definitely the truth.

However, what this devil is doing is a political act of oppression which Muslims must resist. As An Nabi (saaw) instructed when a "brother" oppresses, we are to STOP him from oppressing.

This DEVIL is taking guidance from the Chinese Communist party which institutes similiar rules.

There are an estimated 100-200 million Muslims in China but the CCP only recognizes 50 million. This party of devils and those who follow them must be stopped!!!!

i'm curious about this issue with relation to Mullah Zaeef's book "My life with the taliban". In it he says the Chinese ambassador asked whether they would interfere with the situation of muslims in China i.e those wanting independence etc, to which Mullah Zaeef answered that what happens in another country is their business.

I didn't think that would be their answer or was that an act of diplomacy on the part of a fledgling nation i.e The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan?

[squicscor]

i'm curious about this issue with relation to Mullah Zaeef's book "My life with the taliban". In it he says the Chinese ambassador asked whether they would interfere with the situation of muslims in China i.e those wanting independence etc, to which Mullah Zaeef answered that what happens in another country is their business.

I didn't think that would be their answer or was that an act of diplomacy on the part of a fledgling nation i.e The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan?

You see I wondered about the same thing and Mullah Abdussalam Zaeef's reply seemed me a bit "strange" and not what I would have expected..
Anyone knows more about the background?

[opelonafqe]

You know what Umar I cannot understand this point. Many people claim America is the big bad devil and yes I agree but the Chinese are just as bad. Actually I would say that the domestic policy of the american government towards islam is more islamic than their chinese counterparts. I met some chinese students in pakistan a long time ago and the situation in their country was real bad. I for one call for a boycott of any trade with china unless and until it treats its muslim citizens with some dignity. The world is silent on such places.

[soitlyobserty]

You know what Umar I cannot understand this point. Many people claim America is the big bad devil and yes I agree but the Chinese are just as bad. Actually I would say that the domestic policy of the american government towards islam is more islamic than their chinese counterparts. I met some chinese students in pakistan a long time ago and the situation in their country was real bad. I for one call for a boycott of any trade with china unless and until it treats its muslim citizens with some dignity. The world is silent on such places.

Speak to most Pakistanis, they consider any criticism of China as blasphemy. I know Pakistanis who are very practising, they are ready to criticise India, US, Arabs, everyone in the world, but mention China and its mistreatment of Muslims, they will accuse you of being an Indian trying to cause divisions between China and Pakistan

[panholio]

i'm curious about this issue with relation to Mullah Zaeef's book "My life with the taliban". In it he says the Chinese ambassador asked whether they would interfere with the situation of muslims in China i.e those wanting independence etc, to which Mullah Zaeef answered that what happens in another country is their business.

I didn't think that would be their answer or was that an act of diplomacy on the part of a fledgling nation i.e The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan?

I hadn't heard of this. But I have heard that various Islamic groups in Afghanistan were being pressured to accept nationalist boundaries for their struggle in exchange for more recognition, thereby protecting neighboring nations and the balance of power in the region.
Afghan Muslims have to liberate themselves from foreign occupation. They aren't in any position to deal with China. In contrast, Muslims regimes like the Saudis, Khaleejis, Algeria, etc have basically been silent towards China's treatment of Muslims therein.

And that comes to point of how committed are Muslims to carrying Islam. China is indeed oppressing Muslims within China.

[Master_B]

may Allah guide these governments

[Andrew1978]

i'm curious about this issue with relation to Mullah Zaeef's book "My life with the taliban". In it he says the Chinese ambassador asked whether they would interfere with the situation of muslims in China i.e those wanting independence etc, to which Mullah Zaeef answered that what happens in another country is their business.

I didn't think that would be their answer or was that an act of diplomacy on the part of a fledgling nation i.e The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan?

The Chinese diplomat was trying to push Mullah Zaeef into a political minefield !!
Afganistan ,itself, has many internal problems. Taliban should first make thier own house in order.

If you can not climb a mole-hill , you should not dare to climb a mountain.

[Andrew1978]

Salam Alaykum,

It seems as if there are extremely many problem in Central Asia for anyone who wants to practice Islam even with a fraction of superficiality. The latest example:

http://gulfnews.com/news/world/other...rches-1.841300

Dushnbe: Tajikistan moved a step closer on Thursday to banning children and teens from worshipping in mosques in a bid to curb Islamic fundamentalism, amid criticism from religious leaders.

The upper house of parliament unanimously adopted a "parental responsibility" bill, which would ban those under 18 from praying in churches and mosques and would require them to study in secular schools.

The bill now goes to President Emomali Rahmon, who backed the legislation and is expected to sign it.

"The current law aims to protect interests of the coming generation of Tajikistan," the chairman of the upper chamber of parliament, Makhmadsaid Ubaydullayev, said in a statement.

Authorities in the ex-Soviet state have said the new law is needed to prevent the spread of religious fundamentalism in the overwhelmingly Muslim nation, but religious leaders have condemned it.

"It's a black day for Muslims. Even in Soviet times, such punitive measures and religious persecution did not exist," prominent Muslim theologist Akbar Turadzhonzoda, a former deputy prime minister, said last month after the lower chamber of parliament supported the measure.

"If the state doesn't want to, the people will defend their faith themselves," he has said.

The impoverished state shares a 1,340-kilometre (840-mile) border with Afghanistan.

The secular government of the nation of 7.5 million people has accused religious groups of stoking unrest in a bid to impose Islamic rule.

Rahmon, who has ruled Tajikistan since the early 1990s, called home students from religious schools abroad last autumn, saying the institutions "prepare terrorists".

Now you should realize the great hoax of independence . The break up of Soviet Union made many Muslims happy. But, the ugly truth is that it was a planned event in order to make USSR
integrated into a world government ( NWO ). More on this here.

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http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...istan-to-Libya

Soviet invasion into Afganistan seems to be planned to split USSR into several states which will slowly be merged with NWO --world government.
The comment below shows this. All those funding for Mujahedin groups from Pakistan and UK through Pakistani Secret sevice (ISI) and MI6 are simply part of the great game. Those Islamic warriors are used just as cannon-fodders !!!

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http://www.henrymakow.com/default-dont_put_it.html

Wow. People should pay attention when Brzezeniski rolls out to say these things because he's got a documented track record of chaos creation that goes back 35 years. Who created the Taliban, Al Qaeda? Who toppled the Soviet Union?

Zbiggy. Brzezinski, that's who.

Remember Zbigniew Brzezinski doing a speaking tour in Jan-Feb 2009 predicting "class warfare" riots in U.S. cities? Keep in mind this is the man who said to an elite audience that same year ""To put it *pungently*: in earlier times, it was easier to control one million people than to physically kill one million people; today, it is infinitely easier to kill one million people than to control one million people."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu8Nd7xuix4

Brzezinski has also taken credit for engineering luring the Soviets into the quagmire in Afghanistan that vaporized the Soviet economy, resulted in the famous 1980's scarcity of goods in the USSR, that helped fellow Knight of Malta Mikhail Gorbechev collapse the Soviet government.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKzEpQc-yo8

Why don't people see that when someone of Brzezenski's background speaks he's not using tarot cards to predict urban unrest. In 2008-2009 street riots were the last things on anybody's minds in America, because never in history had Americans trusted Uncle Sam to either restore exponential prosperity, or subsidize them.

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