[InsManKV]

Which requirements does a non-Muslim woman have to fulfil (according to Hanafee fiqh) in order to be considered from Ahl al-Kitaab and thus be eligible to be married by a Muslim man?

Furthermore, is a walee necessary for her in order for the marriage to be valid and does this walee have to be Muslim or not?

Jazaak Allaah khayraa.

[orgagsUpsepsy]

1) She should be proper Christian or Yahoodi meaning that she says I'm christian or jew, not an athiest.

2) Don't know. Will find out insha'Allah.

[InsManKV]

1) She should be proper Christian or Yahoodi meaning that she says I'm christian or jew, not an athiest.

2) Don't know. Will find out insha'Allah.

Concerning 1), isn't this definition quite vague? There are many Christians who say that they are Christian but they don't believe in the church and/or in God.

Could you please shed some light with quotes from reliable Hanafee books?

[kanchouska]

This is not advised. I know of many cases where marrying a modern day chrsitian women resulted in children being non muslim and endangers the faith of the husbend. Unless the guy is activeily practicing daiee and has a strong personality. When it comes to women, we men genrally melt. So why take risk but marry a sincere muslimah.

Arabs in South & Central America & Europe have lost their generations due to marrying local women. Nothing more needs to be said.

[GreefeWrereon]

I think the woman has to be a virgin and has to agree to have the kids raised as Muslims.

[Alexeryy]

I think the woman has to be a virgin and has to agree to have the kids raised as Muslims.

Finding a virgin Ahlul Kitaab in our times sounds almost impossible.

[Ccddfergt]

I think the woman has to be a virgin

lol

[Pelefaifs]

Don't they have to be muh'sanaat also and not just any ahlul kitaab? There's an aayaah about it on the second page of Maa'idah.

[CalBettaulp]

I've heard that Mormons are not considered Ahlul Kitab, so I guess there is some restriction on what exactly constitutes a Christian proper for our definitions beyond a person simply calling themselves a Christian.

[soryalomop]

I had read that "Christian" is defined as someone who believes in God, the Injil and 'Isa :alayhi:, no matter which sect or denomination he is part of.
This was regarding the issue of slaughtered animals; don't know if there is any difference with marrying..

[InsManKV]

This is not advised. I know of many cases where marrying a modern day chrsitian women resulted in children being non muslim and endangers the faith of the husbend. Unless the guy is activeily practicing daiee and has a strong personality. When it comes to women, we men genrally melt. So why take risk but marry a sincere muslimah.

Marrying a Muslimah has become practically impossible due to the guardians' ridicilously high financial and material expectations towards unmarried young Muslim men.

Even if you have work with a sufficient income and a simple, decent place to stay, that is still not enough for the Muslims!

Nowadays, if you cannot provide a luxurious and lavish lifestyle then you are simply left with no possibility to marry!

[Pelefaifs]

There are still Walis out there who practice the sunan of simplicity and attach more importance to their daughters getting married to avoid fitnah and not about how much money a brother has.

They're rare though.

[L0KoxewQ]

Arabs in South & Central America & Europe have lost their generations due to marrying local women. Nothing more needs to be said.

Of course Colonel, the Arabs.

No need to mention the Indians and Pakistanis who have gone the same way.

* Arab bashing *

[soryalomop]

Marrying a Muslimah has become practically impossible due to the guardians' ridicilously high financial and material expectations towards unmarried young Muslim men.

Even if you have work with a sufficient income and a simple, decent place to stay, that is still not enough for the Muslims!

Nowadays, if you cannot provide a luxurious and lavish lifestyle then you are simply left with no possibility to marry!

I don't think the situation is really that bad, anyway, you may try with converts: no problems with greedy parents / discriminating walis...

[iklostardinn]

Marrying a Muslimah has become practically impossible due to the guardians' ridicilously high financial and material expectations towards unmarried young Muslim men.

Even if you have work with a sufficient income and a simple, decent place to stay, that is still not enough for the Muslims!

Nowadays, if you cannot provide a luxurious and lavish lifestyle then you are simply left with no possibility to marry!

May be , you are talking about Turkish or Arab immigrants in Germany ? But, nowadays, you can find
pure German girls who have converted to Islam. Those reverts should not have the problem of those high expectations.

[L0KoxewQ]

May be , you are talking about Turkish or Arab immigrants in Germany ? But, nowadays, you can find
pure German girls who have converted to Islam. Those reverts should not have the problem of those high expectations.

This should be cause for embarrassment and grief for so-called "born-Muslims" because one would think that someone who has been Muslim their entire life would be at least as knowledge and eager, if not more so, to implement the Sunnah. But alas, t'is not so.

[Nupbeaupeteew]

Does any one know if the situation is the same among Walis of Muslim immigrants in the US?

[Squeernemergo]

Marrying a Muslimah has become practically impossible due to the guardians' ridicilously high financial and material expectations towards unmarried young Muslim men.

Even if you have work with a sufficient income and a simple, decent place to stay, that is still not enough for the Muslims!

Nowadays, if you cannot provide a luxurious and lavish lifestyle then you are simply left with no possibility to marry!

Assalamu aliakum,

Brother you are not alone. Everyone is facing this.

I know a person who went to get married, and the father of the daughter asked if he owns a house. He is in his mid 20s! How is he supposed to own a house!!! And even the house the father of the daughter owns is most probably off interest.

However I don't think everyone is like that. I know some of my friends got married quite early even without job or place to stay!!!

[L0KoxewQ]

Does any one know if the situation is the same among Walis of Muslim immigrants in the US?

I am in the U.S. and I think that the situation is similar which is why a great deal of "born-Muslims" get a wife from "back home" since it is less expensive.

[arrismVam]

salaams -

there are girls in eastern europe/former russian republics who are really Christians, and these are more conservative than some Muslims born in USA in terms of general behavior that i have seen...and if you marry them with the intention of teaching them Islam you will get thawab inshaAllah.