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Old 07-23-2011, 10:08 PM   #1
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Default Bahishti Zewar not written by Ashraf Ali Thanawi ?
Some rumors going around that Beshti zewar wasnt written by Sh.ashraf ali(rh) as claimed but was written by sh.ahmad ali fatehpuri. can any knowlegble broither confirm it by checking Urdu behesti zewar? As my urdu is very very weak, people may translate the passage mentioned at the page 19, line 4-8. here iw the link of urdu book:

http://www.mediafire.com/?kiy169ha2kd2um5
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:48 PM   #2
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Assalamu alaykum

I think Moulana is showing his humbleness here.

تالیف اسکی برائے نام اس ناکارہ و ناچیز کی طرف منسوب ہے اور واقع میں اسکے گل سر سبد حبیبی عزیزی مولوی سید احمد علی صاحب فتحپوری سلمہ بالافادات و الا افاضات ہیں

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Old 07-23-2011, 11:17 PM   #3
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Assalamu alaykum

I think Moulana is showing his humbleness here.
was this humbleness only regarding behesti zewar or he did the same with other 100 of his books?
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Old 07-23-2011, 11:23 PM   #4
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Everyone knows Hazrat Hakeem ul Ummah didn't write it himself
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Old 07-23-2011, 11:53 PM   #5
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Everyone knows Hazrat Hakeem ul Ummah didn't write it himself
you mean he was dictating and someone else was writing it down?
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Old 07-24-2011, 12:08 AM   #6
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you mean he was dictating and someone else was writing it down?


No as far as I know, he didn't even dictate it. It was written by some other Maulanas and checked by him. I'll have to make sure. I'll ask and tell you again insha'Allah.
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Old 07-24-2011, 03:11 AM   #7
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I saw a brother on AH forum mentioning that in the Urdu version of Bahishti Zewar its written:

The authorship of it [i.e. Bahishti Zewar] has been nominally attributed to this useless worthless person [i.e. Maulana Ashraf `Ali Thanawi], and in reality its choicest flower - along with benefits and favours - is my beloved and honourable Mawlawi Sayyid Ahmad Ali Saheb Fatehpuri, may Allah protect him. May Allah reward [him] with the best rewards on my behalf, [as well as] on behalf of all Muslim men and women. He also said:

Here is one you can check out for yourselves:
http://www.mediafire.com/?kiy169ha2kd2um5
pg. 19, lines 5-7 So Bahishti Zewar is actually not written by Ashraf Ali Thanawi, despite the millions of references we'll be able to find that it is indeed his book ?

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Old 07-24-2011, 03:17 AM   #8
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http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...af-ali%28rh%29!!
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Old 07-24-2011, 03:26 AM   #9
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I saw a brother on AH forum mentioning that in the Urdu version of Bahishti Zewar its written:



He also said:



So Bahishti Zewar is actually not written by Ashraf Ali Thanawi, despite the millions of references we'll be able to find that it is indeed his book ?



I discussed it a long time ago that to the best of my knowledge and understanding Behishti Zewar is not written by Shaykh (Maulana) Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) but it was given to him by someone and they insisted on dedicating and attributing the book to Shaykh (RA), which he acknowledged in his lifetime.

It wasn’t even written by the person mentioned above, it was written by a Munshi Saheb (RA) who to this day remains anonymous because he wanted to lose his name and dedicate and ascribe to Shaykh (Maulana) Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA)

What’s the problem with that?

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Old 07-24-2011, 03:57 AM   #10
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What’s the problem with that?


the problem is behesti zewar was sold out as a knowledge of sh.ashraf ali(rh).

People do defend the book with everything becaus its written by sh.ashraf ali(rh), they wouldnt do so if tehy knew it wasnt written by sh.ashraf ali but someone else.
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