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Old 07-20-2011, 05:59 PM   #1
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Default Nuts and Bolts for a system of “self-correction”
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Old 07-20-2011, 06:15 PM   #2
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Take a look at global Islamic movements (of the past or our times) and assess their success and again you will find these themes recurring. Tableeghi Jamaat is the MOST SUCCESSFUL movement of our time, compare its workings with the four (4) principles above.




After reading your first post i was just thinking of sending this to some tj saatis, because this sums up the effort of tabligh or the way it should be to the tee.

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Old 07-20-2011, 06:24 PM   #3
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Oh snap, I was about to say the same thing...
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Old 07-20-2011, 06:29 PM   #4
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Oh snap, I was about to say the same thing...


Bro are you thinking the same as me that Colonel is a undercover TJ? or he just dont know it yet (to be continued.....)
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Old 07-20-2011, 06:38 PM   #5
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Bro are you thinking the same as me that Colonel is a undercover TJ? or he just dont know it yet (to be continued.....)
Straight up undercover.
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Old 07-20-2011, 06:42 PM   #6
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Assalamu Alaikum,

Brother Muadh, is it really you saying all these things about tableegh?

Whereever i go for a bayan or taskheel, i almost ALWAYS mention the following two points ..

Tableeghi Jamaat has unparalleled success in taking people from all walks of life and giving them a chance of turning their life around and it is the most accessible system of reformation open for everyone in our times.

The second highly effective feature of Tableeghi Jamaat is that its “sect-free” i.e. you can be Sufi, Hanafi, Maliki or a Salafi and still be part of it. Again apart from Jihad there is no such movement in the world, today!.
These are exactly the two best features of tableegh work. You took the words right from my mouth.
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Old 07-20-2011, 06:50 PM   #7
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In terms of success, access and “sect free” Tableeghi Jamaat is a global movement with superb success and where it fails it’s because the principles are not being adhered to!
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Old 07-20-2011, 06:51 PM   #8
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Most importantly Tableeghi Jamaat provides the “collective” locally for people to belong and being dragged along when they are down.
and i would say that this is one of the main features and benefits of this work, that it keeps a person flowing along, and keeps the person connected to the deen no matter what situation he may be in.

It reminds me of a talk by Molana Ibrahim Devla, he gave a example to the nearest effect, " that this effort of tabligh is like a stream flowing along, that no matter what filth is in it the water still remains pure for you to do wudhu from it"

once again
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Old 07-20-2011, 06:55 PM   #9
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and here comes our shaykh al usool......
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Old 07-20-2011, 06:57 PM   #10
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and here comes our shaykh al usool......
ah, i see you were expecting me
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:19 PM   #11
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ah, i see you were expecting me


me too
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:28 PM   #12
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Where is brother Enigma??
He does not seem to be here for a long time...
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Old 07-20-2011, 10:49 PM   #13
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Where is brother Enigma??
He does not seem to be here for a long time...

He is currently in hibernation, you probably surprised that a tabligh related thread and he ain't appeared on it, that's because no ones bashed it yet, and long may it stay that way
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:47 PM   #14
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He is currently in hibernation, you probably surprised that a tabligh related thread and he ain't appeared on it, that's because no ones bashed it yet, and long may it stay that way
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:02 AM   #15
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Assalamu alaykum

Self correction is the ultimate. But Alhamdulillah the ummah is getting benefited.

In India, post independence, the weeks after the demolition of Babri Masjid were the toughest, it was not salah, zakah, or saum which was in danger, the IMAAN of the millions of muslims was in danger. (this is not guloo, Wallah), everyone has witnessed, Allah SWT chose Tableeg jamaath to handle this situation.
Bismillahi
hmmm how did tableegh jamat helped the situation. Can you write it briefly?
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Old 07-21-2011, 02:30 AM   #16
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Take a look at global Islamic movements (of the past or our times) and assess their success and again you will find these themes recurring. Tableeghi Jamaat is the MOST SUCCESSFUL movement of our time, compare its workings with the four (4) principles above.


One important criterion of measureing success of any Islamic movement is the issue of abandoning usury.

If the members of any Islamic movement are not giving up usury-inflicted practises , then such a movement is a great failue. Moreover, such a movement will get covert support
from the ILLuminati bankers in order to keep the members ignorant of the crime of usury !!

How successful is Tablig Jamat in promoting a usury free life-style among its members ?
Any statistics ?

Usury is so dangerous that it can collapse an empire , let alone an Islamic movement.
More on usury

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http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-global-empire
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Old 07-21-2011, 02:35 AM   #17
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Colonel sahab, this is a very encouraging and guiding thread.

One important criterion of measureing success of any Islamic movement is the issue of abandoning usury.

If the members of any Islamic movement are not giving up usury-inflicted practises , then such a movement is a great failue. Moreover, such a movement will get covert support
from the ILLuminati bankers in order to keep the members ignorant of the crime of usury !!

How successful is Tablig Jamat in promoting a usury free life-style among its members ?
Any statistics ?

Usury is so dangerous that it can collapse an empire , let alone an Islamic movement.
More on usury

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http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-global-empire
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I have heard Ahadith condemning usury being read out from the Mimbar at Raiwind Markaz with my own ears. There are probably Millions of people who left usury due to this effort. (Elders don't keep a record of that.)
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Old 07-21-2011, 02:39 AM   #18
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Old 07-21-2011, 03:09 AM   #19
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Discussions of the last few days have got me thinking![/LIST]


I was thinking the same thing.

Colonel Sahib (DB), Let's start a Madressah/Campaigh/Tehreek and make you as Ameer.

Let's prove that we can also do things.

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Old 07-21-2011, 04:03 AM   #20
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One important criterion of measureing success of any Islamic movement is the issue of abandoning usury.

If the members of any Islamic movement are not giving up usury-inflicted practises , then such a movement is a great failue. Moreover, such a movement will get covert support
from the ILLuminati bankers in order to keep the members ignorant of the crime of usury !!

How successful is Tablig Jamat in promoting a usury free life-style among its members ?
Any statistics ?

Usury is so dangerous that it can collapse an empire , let alone an Islamic movement.
More on usury
It's emphasized by strong encouragement towards living a life of halal earnings and eating halal and pure foods as mentioned in the Qur'an and Sunnah. When a person starts to practice from that encouragement, then he'll be very particular about his income/business dealings and what food he consumes.
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