[CalBettaulp]

You could start ShariahProgram.

With it, you'll be able to complete your Arabic studies to a strong level, and then move on to basic, classical Hanafi texts (i.e. Nurul Idah and Mukhtasar ul-Quduri). This is over the course of two years, however, so if you want something quicker, then I'm not sure if you'll be able to get the depth you're looking for so quickly.

By they way, I just want to say that I'm very impressed with how you've changed, . May Allah keep you (and me and all the rest of the Muslims) striving for understanding and following the truth. Ameen

[katetomson]

ok so if i start from basics what do i start with?

[Squeernemergo]

Assalamu alaikum brother,

I don't know if you will take my advice seriously but here is the order I suggest:

1) Absolute Essentials of Islam (I think maybe available online): Shaykh Faraz Rabbani
2) Ta'leemul Haq (please bear the bad print - it is a very good book) (definitely available online)
3) Ascent to Felicity: Shaykh Faraz Khan
4) Beheshti Zewar (for detailed masail)

Nur al-Idah you can study on the side for additional benefit but do not rely on it because it does not present accurate opinions of the madhab. The above four books present the strongest and most accurate opinions. Nur al-Idah provides some weaker opinions and if you read it first before reading the others I assure you, you will get confused.

The above will cover the five pillars. As for the rest: transactions, marriage, inheritance, etc.

1) Tasheelul Fiqh volumes 8-12
2) Business Made Easy
3) Beheshti Zewar

[katetomson]

Assalamu alaikum brother,

I don't know if you will take my advice seriously but here is the order I suggest:

1) Absolute Essentials of Islam (I think maybe available online): Shaykh Faraz Rabbani
2) Ta'leemul Haq (please bear the bad print - it is a very good book) (definitely available online)
3) Ascent to Felicity: Shaykh Faraz Khan
4) Beheshti Zewar (for detailed masail)

Nur al-Idah you can study on the side for additional benefit but do not rely on it because it does not present accurate opinions of the madhab. The above four books present the strongest and most accurate opinions. Nur al-Idah provides some weaker opinions and if you read it first before reading the others I assure you, you will get confused.

The above will cover the five pillars. As for the rest: transactions, marriage, inheritance, etc.

1) Tasheelul Fiqh volumes 8-12
2) Business Made Easy
3) Beheshti Zewar

oh, i thought nur ul idah was a classical text? Arent the texts u mentioned all contemporary? If its ok id like to stick to classical texts as i cant be sure who is properly following the madhabs from thi day and age for the moment, so id like to learn from the classical scholars inshallah as anyone can claim anything in our times, most of the people who claim a madhab are further away from a madhab than the salafis are ironically. Like those who call themselves hanafi secularists. How can u be hanafi whos a secularist, since when have abu hanifah been a secularist

[katetomson]

btw whats wrong with nur ul idah just so i know what to look out for inshallah, and which classical books do you feel accurately represents the oppinions of abu hanifah rahimahullah?

[Squeernemergo]

oh, i thought nur ul idah was a classical text? Arent the texts u mentioned all contemporary? If its ok id like to stick to classical texts as i cant be sure who is properly following the madhabs from thi day and age for the moment, so id like to learn from the classical scholars inshallah as anyone can claim anything in our times, most of the people who claim a madhab are further away from a madhab than the salafis are ironically. Like those who call themselves hanafi secularists. How can u be hanafi whos a secularist, since when have abu hanifah been a secularist

Assalamu alaikum brother,

I am not saying this in a mocking or derogatory way but what you are saying above shows you need to understand the matter better. I am not going to say more but I hope a scholar can actually give some input at this point. I guarantee you this that there is no book in English which presents the strongest opinions in one place unlike the books I quoted above.

[Fruriourl]

I agree with hope1's syllabus he has provided you. I would have a Shaykh teach me Nūrul Īdāh since it is not easy to understand the Kitaab without a teacher.

[katetomson]

Assalamu alaikum brother,

I am not saying this in a mocking or derogatory way but what you are saying above shows you need to understand the matter better. I am not going to say more but I hope a scholar can actually give some input at this point. I guarantee you this that there is no book in English which presents the strongest opinions in one place unlike the books I quoted above.

then please explain it or link me to a scholar inshallah, we are advised to adopt a madhab in order to make studying easier inshallah so given that the vast majority of english muslims are hanafi it shud be easy for me to understand and learn.

I apologise if i say anything incorrect, please be patient with me as i dont mean anything bad and am only eager to learn inshallah

[katetomson]

assalamu alaykum everyone, i went to a fiqh class today, unfortunately there were no references and they werent really going through a book.

I did pick up some books from the store, feel free to comment on them inshallah.

I gotbahishti zawar, and also the mukhtasar al quduri in order to have a classical reference, also i got abu hanifah his life legal method and legacy in order to learn more about him and his legacy and madhab.

I picked up a few extras to have a read through, one called the legal status of madhabs and also the qasida burda and the truth about bayah so i can understand a little more about the sufi elements of the current hanafi community and the idea of tareekas and a shaikh giving you cures etc, so inshallah ill have a good read through that.

Ultimately i wish to be able to reference everything back inshallahm including his biography, i wish to find all the references so i know its authentic but this will do inshallah until my arabic is strong enough inshallah so ill read through this for now.

Ill try get some more books inshallah in the future. Feel free to explain thinsg surrounding the madhab, such as why modern deobandi books are better to learn from than classical hanafi books, which is a point im a little caught on to be honest, so a good explanation would be great inshallah.

Also, if its impermissable to pray behind someone from another madhab, my family is shaafi, they have different ideas for wudhu, does that mean i cant take them on tablighi jama'ah due to their not being able to pray behind hanafis?

I ask everyone to be patient with my questions and not take them offensiveliy, as on the day of resurrection you you will be asked about your treatments of reverts, the ummah is in a mess and things are confusing for us, you dont want to have to answer to losing your patience wijust because i want proper explanations with reasoning explained, so please fear allah and be like brother
Nomadic who always maintains a nice pleasant tone when addressing his brother.. Jazak allahu khair

[katetomson]

btw please dont worry about confusing me, if contemporary books are better then so be it, if there are issues with books like nuur ul idah then of course i should be aware of them, all i ask is that you explain yourselves if you make points so i can understand WHY your saying it as i prefer to understand things.

People incorrectly link madhabs to blind following when in actual fact a madhab is a set of usool, taqleed and following a madhab is two different issues that shouldnt be linked together, everyone must have usool, even so called ghair muqalids must have usool even if they dont realise it, they must have a position on ijma, quiyas, weak hadeeth, statements of sahaba etc

[Thunderzee]

assalamu alaykum everyone, i went to a fiqh class today, unfortunately there were no references and they werent really going through a book.

I did pick up some books from the store, feel free to comment on them inshallah.

I gotbahishti zawar, and also the mukhtasar al quduri in order to have a classical reference, also i got abu hanifah his life legal method and legacy in order to learn more about him and his legacy and madhab.

I picked up a few extras to have a read through, one called the legal status of madhabs and also the qasida burda and the truth about bayah so i can understand a little more about the sufi elements of the current hanafi community and the idea of tareekas and a shaikh giving you cures etc, so inshallah ill have a good read through that.

Ultimately i wish to be able to reference everything back inshallahm including his biography, i wish to find all the references so i know its authentic but this will do inshallah until my arabic is strong enough inshallah so ill read through this for now.

Ill try get some more books inshallah in the future. Feel free to explain thinsg surrounding the madhab, such as why modern deobandi books are better to learn from than classical hanafi books, which is a point im a little caught on to be honest, so a good explanation would be great inshallah.

Also, if its impermissable to pray behind someone from another madhab, my family is shaafi, they have different ideas for wudhu, does that mean i cant take them on tablighi jama'ah due to their not being able to pray behind hanafis?

I ask everyone to be patient with my questions and not take them offensiveliy, as on the day of resurrection you you will be asked about your treatments of reverts, the ummah is in a mess and things are confusing for us, you dont want to have to answer to losing your patience wijust because i want proper explanations with reasoning explained, so please fear allah and be like brother
Nomadic who always maintains a nice pleasant tone when addressing his brother.. Jazak allahu khair

wa 'alaykum as-salam wa rahmatuLlahi wa barakatuhu, sayyidi Dawud May we all be blessed with the zeal for knowledge that you have, and I say that sincerely. Ma sha' Allah, keep it up!

The reason people are recommending contemperory works is because the relied-upon position (mu'tamad) is not always narrated in every book, because the classical books were often written before the opinions became fully codified and determined. Previously, there were many mujtahids within the madh-hab, as well as muhaddiths, usulis and other people who derived slightly different opinions and there was no uniform systematization. Later on, people like Imam Ibn 'Abidin came and sifted through all the opinions and performed what's called tarjeeh. His Radd al-Muhtar is thus relied upon by most muftis for fatwa. No book is perfect, though, and even the radd al-muhtar contains some opinions which are not relied-upon, but these are relatively few. That is why people are recommending more modern works -- because they try to only present the relied-upon opinions.

Brother, if you get in touch with me by leaving a comment here, I'll send you some mp3's of a master of fiqh to knows the relied-upon positions inside-out explaining the Nur al-Idah. I'll also send you PDF's of the book with translation. That will be a good starting point, especially as you're eager to study the classical texts.

was-salam

[katetomson]

inshallah ill take ur advices blindly and see where it takes me inshallah t'ala

[Thunderzee]

Do get in touch with me -- I'll send you an explanation of Nur al-Idah with the relied-upon positions, in sha' Allah. Leave a comment here: http://seekerofthesacred.wordpress.c...-from-lessons/

[Fruriourl]

Dawud, is your area predominantly Shafi'i ?

Suleiman - are you sending him PDF of Maraqi al-Falah?

[Thunderzee]

the pdf's of wesam checkarwi's translation of nur al-idah with the maraqi al-falah, yes, as well as audios explaining nur al-idah.

[katetomson]

Dawud, is your area predominantly Shafi'i ?

Suleiman - are you sending him PDF of Maraqi al-Falah?

sheffield is very mixed, with large somali and yemeni communities originating in shaafi fiqh, and big hanafi community from subcontinent plus some hanabilah from saudi and some salafis following hanbali fiqh, plus the salafis who follow the hanbali fiqh.

My wife is salafi and so is most of the young generation of somalis so they technically follow hanbali fiqh but the salafi version. Her family and community are also a salafi version of shaafi fiqh. They pray 8 rak'ah taraweeh for example

also there are some libyans who follow maliki fiqh but some of them follow the salafi version of maliki fiqh where they say imam malik never believed u shud have ur hands by ur sides etc

[Fruriourl]

the pdf's of wesam checkarwi's translation of nur al-idah with the maraqi al-falah, yes, as well as audios explaining nur al-idah.

I heard that PDF was removed. Luckily, I have it and seems like you do too. Alhamdulillah.

[Fruriourl]

sheffield is very mixed, with large somali and yemeni communities originating in shaafi fiqh, and big hanafi community from subcontinent plus some hanabilah from saudi and some salafis following hanbali fiqh, plus the salafis who follow the hanbali fiqh.

My wife is salafi

Alhamdulillāh.

I would advise to learn Adab along with Fiqh. It really helps.

Imām al-Qarãfi in his book Al-Furüq said, 'Learn that a little etiquette is better than a lot of good actions.'

Imām Mālik told a young boy from the Quraysh:
"Learn etiquette [adab] before you acquire knowledge."
[حلية الأولياء]

There are few lectures and duroos by Mufti 'Abdur Rahman and Shaykh Husain on Adab. Anyways I do not want to burden anyone.

[katetomson]

Alhamdulillāh.

I would advise to learn Adab along with Fiqh. It really helps.

Imām al-Qarãfi in his book Al-Furüq said, 'Learn that a little etiquette is better than a lot of good actions.'

Imām Mālik told a young boy from the Quraysh:
"Learn etiquette [adab] before you acquire knowledge."
[حلية الأولياء]

There are few lectures and duroos by Mufti 'Abdur Rahman and Shaykh Husain on Adab. Anyways I do not want to burden anyone.

what do u mean bro? Have i done something incorrect regarding mannerisms? Im happy to learn that inshallah if u can provide some links.

Downloadable mp3s are good for me inshallah as i have an mp3 player but can only access internet from my phone so videos etc are bit tricky

[Fruriourl]

what do u mean bro? Have i done something incorrect regarding mannerisms? Im happy to learn that inshallah if u can provide some links.

Downloadable mp3s are good for me inshallah as i have an mp3 player but can only access internet from my phone so videos etc are bit tricky

I just meant not to get too caught up with Fiqh but to learn Fiqh in the capacity you can and also learn Akhlaq/Adab a little bit alongside Fiqh. Adab such as going to Mosque, dealing with creation of Allah etc,.