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Old 07-13-2011, 08:51 PM   #21
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The other kids' behavior does not justify to treat the other good kids the same way as well. 9 year old is 9 year old.
Firstly,did I justify the treatment anywhere?
Secondly,I was as quiet and as obedient as you can get when I was young.However,I used to get a good damn hiding.In terms of moulding me as a person I think it harmed me.However,I appreciate the hiding.It's 4 years since the last time I read dhor to somebody,yet it's still intact.Also,it's a madressah with 700 students.Not every ustadh is aquinted with every student.Hence the ustadh might have been under the impression that the child was oriented already and was being rebellious.Also he might not have known that there was a nine year old child in the madressah.
Thirdly,in those years the country was brutal.The kids(even smaller than 9) were also brutal.In school the guys used to have brutal fights with knuckle-dusters, bricks and bottles and knives and a whole assortment of other street weapons.And to an extent the worst used to end-up in zak-park,because zak-park had a reputation for hiding and for 'fixing' and most that came out,came out rehabbed/much better people.However,all that is history now.I don't know how,but today it's very rare to here of a fight.

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Old 07-13-2011, 10:19 PM   #22
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Firstly,did I justify the treatment anywhere?
Secondly,I was as quiet and as obedient as you can get when I was young.However,I used to get a good damn hiding.In terms of moulding me as a person I think it harmed me.However,I appreciate the hiding.It's 4 years since the last time I read dhor to somebody,yet it's still intact.Also,it's a madressah with 700 students.Not every ustadh is aquinted with every student.Hence the ustadh might have been under the impression that the child was oriented already and was being rebellious.Also he might not have known that there was a nine year old child in the madressah.
Thirdly,in those years the country was brutal.The kids(even smaller than 9) were also brutal.In school the guys used to have brutal fights with knuckle-dusters, bricks and bottles and knives and a whole assortment of other street weapons.And to an extent the worst used to end-up in zak-park,because zak-park had a reputation for hiding and for 'fixing' and most that came out,came out rehabbed/much better people.However,all that is history now.I don't know how,but today it's very rare to here of a fight.

was salam
I did not say that you said it was justified. I said the maulana shouldn't treat each individual the same. If for example an Ustadh gives these broken boys nice words, sits them down and talk them out, my guess they would cry. I would. Most probably the kids will grow up hating the religious figure because of the treatment they received in madrasah (delinquents or not). The madrasah needs Ustadh who is stern but gentle, not the one who hits kids whenever they want.

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Old 07-13-2011, 10:35 PM   #23
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I am also suffering loss of iman too. There are some laws of Islam that I utterly dislike and wonder how can God approve of it? Question about those laws were raised by a sister named Kk99, so I am not going into details. I just know that I am without answer, because the ones I receive are not satisfactory. But somehow I am sticking to my faith because in my heart I feel that Allah is the true God and I shouldn't go astray. I know I will receive negative reactions from my siblings here, but I just wrote what went on in my mind.
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:03 PM   #24
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I am also suffering loss of iman too. There are some laws of Islam that I utterly dislike and wonder how can God approve of it? Question about those laws were raised by a sister named Kk99, so I am not going into details. I just know that I am without answer, because the ones I receive are not satisfactory. But somehow I am sticking to my faith because in my heart I feel that Allah is the true God and I shouldn't go astray. I know I will receive negative reactions from my siblings here, but I just wrote what went on in my mind.
sister,what is the basis of the loss of iman? is it related to belief or to gender problems e.t.c.
sister,I would highly recommend that you listen to the audio lectures on this site- www.yunuspatel.co.za
Also,remember that Allah forgives every sin except shirk.So safeguard yourself against shirk first and foremost.Also sister,if you are of marriagable age and you not married,than find a good muslim husband of good tempremant.It would go a long way.

May Allah Guide and Help us all.Aameen
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:15 PM   #25
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Salam-u-alaikum everyone,
this might interest you bro>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjAFr9NgPTg
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:16 PM   #26
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sister,what is the basis of the loss of iman? is it related to belief or to gender problems e.t.c.
sister,I would highly recommend that you listen to the audio lectures on this site- www.yunuspatel.co.za
Also,remember that Allah forgives every sin except shirk.So safeguard yourself against shirk first and foremost.Also sister,if you are of marriagable age and you not married,than find a good muslim husband of good tempremant.It would go a long way.

May Allah Guide and Help us all.Aameen
was salam
I was surprised by the rule of keeping sex slaves. Of course there are more, like getting half the share of man, etc. Brother you are a genius. I am a hot tempered woman and so I need a husband of good temeperament. Pray for me, and inshallah it will happen after a few years. I am not ready yet.
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:27 PM   #27
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I was surprised by the rule of keeping sex slaves. Of course there are more, like getting half the share of man, etc. Brother you are a genius. I am a hot tempered woman and so I need a husband of good temeperament. Pray for me, and inshallah it will happen after a few years. I am not ready yet.
Bismillahi
slave woman:
http://onlinepj.com/quran-thafseer-i...07-slave-woman
As far as property that is quite Just for men are care takers and they have to spend money on their families as it is farz for them while it is not farz for a woman to spend and she is always under a man who takes the responsibility. Try to think with all calmness and you will see get rid of these waswasa. Try to stay in wudhu always and ponder more on the attributes of Allah.
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:29 PM   #28
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I was surprised by the rule of keeping sex slaves. Of course there are more, like getting half the share of man, etc. Brother you are a genius. I am a hot tempered woman and so I need a husband of good temeperament. Pray for me, and inshallah it will happen after a few years. I am not ready yet.
Sister,do not try to rationalise everything.If u dig a hole on the beach,the hole would not have the capacity to hold the waters of the entire world.Same is the brain of a human which cannot understand everything.Islam doesn't have something as a sex slave,but rather slaves in general.It is just that female slaves have an extra 'use' as compared to male slaves.It is generally men who make the decisions to go to war.The idea that your wife or your daughter would be lost to your enemy would make you think many times before deciding to go to war.Slaves are taken during war.When people went to war they did it with full consciense that there would be those repurcussions.As for inheritance it has been explained many times that the man's duty is to provide for his mother/sister/daughter.If he neglects them he will be questioned and punished for it on the day of judgement.In a country under shariah law he would be punished and penalised and forced to fulfill his obligations by the court.There is no such responsibility for a woman.These are not responses based on Islamic teachings,but rather my own rational thinking and might be wrong.I hope that helps.

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Old 07-13-2011, 11:32 PM   #29
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Sorry for calling you brother. The link doesn't work.
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:38 PM   #30
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Sister,do not try to rationalise everything.If u dig a hole on the beach,the hole would not have the capacity to hold the waters of the entire world.Same is the brain of a human which cannot understand everything.Islam doesn't have something as a sex slave,but rather slaves in general.It is just that female slaves have an extra 'use' as compared to male slaves.It is generally men who make the decisions to go to war.The idea that your wife or your daughter would be lost to your enemy would make you think many times before deciding to go to war.Slaves are taken during war.When people went to war they did it with full consciense that there would be those repurcussions.As for inheritance it has been explained many times that the man's duty is to provide for his mother/sister/daughter.If he neglects them he will be questioned and punished for it on the day of judgement.In a country under shariah law he would be punished and penalised and forced to fulfill his obligations by the court.There is no such responsibility for a woman.These are not responses based on Islamic teachings,but rather my own rational thinking and might be wrong.I hope that helps.

was salam
“O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee”

who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess…”

Qur’an (70:27-30)- “And those who are fearful of the punishment of their Lord, indeed, the punishment of their Lord is not that from which one is safe – And those who guard their private parts, Save with their wives and those whom their right hands possess, for thus they are not blameworthy.”

“And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.”
Doesn't this mean that right hand possessions can be used for love making without marriage?
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:40 PM   #31
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Sorry for calling you brother. The link doesn't work.
Bismillahi
strange it is opening here and unfortunately I cannot copy the contents. I will try iA.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:05 AM   #32
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Sister,do not try to rationalise everything.If u dig a hole on the beach,the hole would not have the capacity to hold the waters of the entire world.Same is the brain of a human which cannot understand everything.Islam doesn't have something as a sex slave,but rather slaves in general.It is just that female slaves have an extra 'use' as compared to male slaves.It is generally men who make the decisions to go to war.The idea that your wife or your daughter would be lost to your enemy would make you think many times before deciding to go to war.Slaves are taken during war.When people went to war they did it with full consciense that there would be those repurcussions.As for inheritance it has been explained many times that the man's duty is to provide for his mother/sister/daughter.If he neglects them he will be questioned and punished for it on the day of judgement.In a country under shariah law he would be punished and penalised and forced to fulfill his obligations by the court.There is no such responsibility for a woman.These are not responses based on Islamic teachings,but rather my own rational thinking and might be wrong.I hope that helps.

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Old 07-14-2011, 12:11 AM   #33
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Doesn't this mean that right hand possessions can be used for love making without marriage? Yes this is the case. Basically whenever a Muslim man receives a slave from the Khaliphah, this is a legal permission for him to have intercourse with her just as a marriage ceremony is the means through which a man has legal permission to have intercourse with the woman he has married.

Whatever the reasoning behind it that we may find, the legality of an act is established through certain channels: For intercourse with a free woman through the marriage ceremony and its conditions, and intercourse with a slave woman through the granting of this slave woman to him by the Khaliphah, along with the conditions that have to met so that this slave can be legally given to him.

Finally it all comes down to whether it we believe that Allah exists and gives directives to His creation based on whatever He wills, even if it seems strange at times to some of us. There are unfortunately many who do not understand this matter, and they come up with these and other questions, such as "Why would Allah allow people to suffer?" and so on. If one understands Allah and the fact that all His Commandments are within the realm of things that are possible to attribute to Him, then these issues should not really arise.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:35 AM   #34
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Azhar

I did read your long post completely. I can understand the troubles you went through in the name of Islam. But first of all you should stop thinking about some factors for the time being. Your father,your mother, the madrassa, the kids there who abused you, the people in the mosque who didn't back you up, 9/11, the atheist friend who questions you etc. Keep ALL of them out of the equation for the time being. Now think what is our relationship with Allah?
Allah is our master and we are his slave.

Why are we send to this world?

To worship Allah and only Allah. Why did Allah create us for the sole purpose of worship?


Is that a fair deal?

Well considering the fact that we have to worship him only for the limited time we live in this world and for it we will be rewarded Paradise for eternity, its more than a fair deal, its the best deal we can ever get. What is the point of having a limited time in this Earth? Allah is all knowing so why not skip the Earth part and send us to heaven and hell accordingly? We have been given a free will to do what we want, but if Allah knows everything that will happen than it doesn't sound like we have a free will at all to me.


But i am facing lot of problems due to religion?

If the intention of us following Islam is purely to please Allah then its consequences in this world doesn't matter.


Even if I am following Islam perfectly why am i facing more problems in Life?

It is Allah's way of testing us, our endurance and our intentions. Also for every trails and tribulations we face our sins are forgiven because of it. Why are we even posed with problems in life while trying to follow the correct path and please Allah? Parents do not put their children through tribulations just to test their love do they? So why does Allah do this? Some people face problems that are so grave harsh and undeserving. This to me feels very unfair. If Allah is most merciful why are those who try to follow the correct path even presented with challenges rather than not having them to begin with? Someone who is most merciful would feel remorse even if they were to slightly make someones situation difficult.

A car that runs on unleaded fuel can only run on diesel fuel for so long before it stops going - Do we question the car and say it is a faulty car or do we ask the person who filled the fuel in it and ask them what they expected out of it?

ONce again my apologies for even having these thoughts and questions
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:51 AM   #35
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ONce again my apologies for even having these thoughts and questions
bro.

Its ok to have questions, I have had similar thoughts too in the past. The thing here is of that of perspective. You look things in a different way.

How about this you, are the boss of a company, will you hire people for work without an interview. Won't you test his skills and sincerity.

But the difference between the Boss of the company and Allah is , the boss does not give salary to the ones he does not hire. But Allah gives sustenance to all of his creation here even if they do not obey him. . Look how merciful He is.

This is our interview, this is our chance. Even if we fail, Allah is the most Merciful. We can repent and ask for forgiveness and He will forgive .


P.s. Allah says in the Quran:"Or think you that you will enter Paradise without such (trials) as came to those who passed away before you? They were afflicted with severe Poverty, Ailments & were Shaken". (Quran 2:214)
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:00 AM   #36
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Those of you who are uncertain about my recount of the darul uloom - my memory is not at fault here, there are 7 other brothers whom I shared my dorm with who live in my city and they can all attest to every single detail i have pointed out. I also have a letter I wrote to my father to allow me back home detailing most of the incidents and surroundings.

There were DEFINITELY armed guardsmen throughout the complex, at least 10 of them. Perhaps this was because the darul uloom was on break and needed to be guarded? Not sure, either way I can promise to you from the deepest depths of my heart that none of it was exaggerated and if anything I have downplayed and left out many more serious events during my time there.
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:05 AM   #37
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Those of you who are uncertain about my recount of the darul uloom - my memory is not at fault here, there are 7 other brothers whom I shared my dorm with who live in my city and they can all attest to every single detail i have pointed out. I also have a letter I wrote to my father to allow me back home detailing most of the incidents and surroundings.

There were DEFINITELY armed guardsmen throughout the complex, at least 10 of them. Perhaps this was because the darul uloom was on break and needed to be guarded? Not sure, either way I can promise to you from the deepest depths of my heart that none of it was exaggerated and if anything I have downplayed and left out many more serious events during my time there.

I believe you. Things are different everywhere.
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:07 AM   #38
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Why are we even posed with problems in life while trying to follow the correct path and please Allah? Parents do not put their children through tribulations just to test their love do they? So why does Allah do this? Some people face problems that are so grave harsh and undeserving. This to me feels very unfair. If Allah is most merciful why are those who try to follow the correct path even presented with challenges rather than not having them to begin with? Someone who is most merciful would feel remorse even if they were to slightly make someones situation difficult.
Assalamu'alaikum all,

I don't know how to answer other questions, but I'll just relate to this one from my experience. Not sure if this can be categorized as an answer or not, but hopefully it helps to those who think that it's beneficial.

In all circumstances, there are elements that we definitely can't control. Natural disasters, crimes, wars and others. Definitely we won't be asked of the things that we can't control. But we'll be asked of what our choices were in those testing times. Did we steadfast and choose correctly according to Quraan and Sunnah to the best of our knowledge? If yes, then insyaAllah, Allah will be pleased more with us. But if we could not be steadfast, then to which level that we succumbed to? I believe there would be many levels of going down, and surely the last level would be to commit shirk or to deny Allah as our creator, which would be unforgivable.

So our choices in those testing times would determine which level we gonna be (from the top level to the last unforgivable act). Furthermore, it's not unfair for some people to have more tribulations compared to other people, for they will be rewarded more than those other people. Our Prophet(SAW) lost all his sons due to illnesses. He himself was an orphan, and most orphan I found have special attachment to children for usually they would care more of the youngsters, more than a normally raised person would be.

The faith in God, patience and steadfastness to Quran and Sunnah insyaAllah will help for the person to tread the tribulations calmly, and insyaAllah to be rewarded more than other people who do not experience it.

Did it help? Hope so.
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:10 AM   #39
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Why should I believe in a religion that has caused me all this trauma, a religion that does discriminate so obviously even though we pretend it does not?
As-salamu alaikum

You should believe in it because it is the Truth. The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and his Companions (ra) experienced a lot of trauma as did great Messengers such as Noah and Abraham (pbut). Is the trauma that you experienced worse than their trauma? What about Joseph (pbuh) who was put in a cold well by his own brothers at a young age, sold into slavery in foreign country and was falsely put into prison and yet had full trust in God and even forgave his brothers?

My advice is to ask God for guidance. Ask Him sincerely to guide you to the true religion and to make you firm in Islam. Read the Qur'an, ponder on its Signs and the stories of the Prophets (pbut).

Okay, here is a post that I wrote as a reply to your question why I believe in God and His Messenger. A lot of what is in this the post is something that I have already written before. I intended to rewrite and sharpen the language, sequencing, delivery and rhetoric a little but unfortunately due to time constraints I wasn't able to. I hope it makes you reflect because that is overall theme of my post. I also apologise if the text doesn't really flow at all times and is not that coherent. Like I said, it's because I compiled from posts that I wrote as replies to other people. I also apologise for the written mistakes that might ruin the flow of the text. Like I said, I intended to brush up on the language but I am a bit busy. So here it goes:

Why believe in God and His Messenger? Historically speaking, people had different reasons for believing in Muhammad’s Prophethood (peace and blessings of God be upon him). His beloved wife, Khadija, who was 15 years her senior, believed in him due to his character. She knew him to be an honest, trustworthy, humble and generous man of character. After the first time Muhammad (peace and blessings of God be upon him) received Revelation while he was in the cave of Hira – where was told by the Angel Gabriel to read when he was illiterate – he came home very scared and asked his wife to cover in her arms. Imagine if you received revelation, you probably wouldn’t think to yourself, “This is great! I am a Prophet of God!”, you probably would think you were going possessed and going crazy! Well, that’s what happened with the Prophet and he told his wife that he feared that something bad was going to happen to him, so his wife comforted her telling him that nothing bad would happen and God wouldn’t disgrace him because he was a man of character speaking the truth, he was generous to the poor, he kept good relations wit his family and people. In short, she married him due to his character and believed in his Prophethood due to his character.

(Note, the Meccans believed in God, in fact, the whole Arabian Peninsula did, however, they believed him to have daughters and they believed in other gods as well. However, they believed Allah/God to be the Creator and the Supreme God and they worshipped the other gods so they could acts intercessors between them and God. That’s why they are Mushrikeen in the Qur’an because they associate partners with God. I say this so you can have some context)

Another such person who believed in Muhammad due to his character was Abu Bakr. They were friends before Muhammad’s Prophethood. When Muhammad invited him to Islam, he recited to him some verses from the Qur’an and he became Muslim. When Muhammad had his Night Journey where he was taken from Mecca into Jerusalem at night and was home the following morning, the disbelievers of Mecca found this very startling – due to the impossibility of travelling to Jerusalem and back in less than a day - so they asked, “Your companion is claiming that he travelled to Jerusalem and back in one night, what do you make of this?”. He responded, “If Muhammad is telling that then it is as he said it is. Verily, I believed him regarding an even stranger thing when he claimed to receive Revelations from Heaven”. After that incident, he was called as-Siddiq which means a man of deep conviction. Of course, he was known as as-Siddiq due to his utmost loyalty to Muhammad and spending most of his fortune in the way of Islam.

Another story that might be mentioned is that of Umar ibn al-Khattab who was a passionate and fiery man of deep conviction. He took it as a serious offense when Muhammad declared that the idols and gods of Quraish (the tribe that inhabited Mecca) were falsehood. He felt it went against everything that he believed in him, his forefathers believed in, his whole tribe – everything that he stood for! He was actually so enraged that one day he set out to kill Muhammad, he simply couldn’t stand what Muhammad was preaching. On his way to kill the Prophet, he met a man who was a Muslim (who hid his faith, most people in Mecca hid their acceptance of Islam at that time) but Umar didn’t know this. The man asked where was he going. Umar replied that he was going to kill the Prophet. The man told him to go deal with your family first, your sister and her husband have accepted Islam (they also hid their faith). The man said this because he wanted to divert Umar from harming the Prophet. So Umar enraged by this went to his sister’s and he heard the Qur’an – the very words that had caused an upset in the Pagan society of Mecca – recited there. When Umar’s sister and husband heard Umar approach, they hid the text from which the Qur’an was recited and the person who was reciting it (it wasn’t Umar’s sister and her husband). Umar obviously asked what was going on. His sister and her husband denied hearing anything. Naturally this enraged Umar further and he started beating his sister and his brother-in-law. At last, both of them said without hesitation that they were Muslims and they didn’t care what he was going to do to them. Such boldness had an effect on Umar, and he asked to see the page from which the Qur’an was recited. He read the Surah of Ta-Ha, the twentieth chapter of the Qur’an.

Ta-Ha.
We have not sent down the Qur'an to thee to be (an occasion) for thy distress,
But only as an admonition to those who fear (Allah),-
A revelation from Him Who created the earth and the heavens on high.
Allah) Most Gracious is firmly established on the throne (of authority).
To Him belongs what is in the heavens and on earth, and all between them, and all beneath the soil.

The eloquence of the words had a moving effect on him and he accepted Islam.

Now, most Muslims don’t have such conversion stories. These are isolated, unique cases so you are probably wondering why I brought them up. It is just to show you that people have different reasons for believing in God and His Messenger. Now I will mention some more common reasons for people converting into Islam.

A lot of people became Muslims when the following prophecy found in the Qur’an was fulfilled:

The Romans are vanquished

In a near land, and they, after being vanquished, shall overcome,

Within a few years. Allah's is the command before and after; and on that day the believers shall rejoice, (Qur'an 30:2-4)

The Qur'an prophecises that the Romans (Byzantines, Byzantium) would be victorious even though they had suffered a heavy loss at the hands of the Persians. This prophecy came at a time when Byzantium had suffered a major and humiliating loss at the hands of Persians. They had just lost Jerusalem which contains the Holy Church, the symbol of their Christian identity. They also had lost major economic centers, namely Egypt and Greater Syria. Abu Bakr(ra) the closest friend of the Prophet(pbuh) informed the Pagan Meccans of this prophecy. The Qur'an says that the victory would happen in "few years" which in Arabic terminology meant between three and nine. Abu Bakr and the Pagans decided to make a bet (this was before betting was made unlawful in Islam), and they agreed on six years. Abu Bakr(ra) lost the bet since Byzantium still wasn't winning, but by the seventh year Byzantium started making huge victories, and the Muslims scolded Abu Bakr(ra) for agreeing on six years although the verse in the Qur'an says "few years" which in Arabic terminology meant "between three and nine".

Another reason why people became Muslims is because Muhammad conquered the Mecca, the very town where he was persecuted and from where he was driven out. The Arab tribes before the conquest of Mecca said, “Leave him to deal with his people. If he is victorious over them, he is a Prophet”. After the conquest of Mecca, the various Arab tribes no longer delayed their acceptance of Islam and entered Islam in crowds.

Another thing that is universal in all conversion stories, past, present and future, is the fact that they like the idea of no god but God without partners and they like the Qur’an. Most people who were converted to Islam by the Prophet had verses recited to them and they accepted.

These are some historical examples, now I give personal reasons for believing in God and His Messenger. Of course the above mentioned examples also are part of the reasons why I believe in God and His Messenger but I won’t re-mention them, I just want you to keep them in mind.

One thing that should definitely be noted is that the Qur’an is a very engaging book, it addresses mankind and encourages them to think and power, and look at God’s signs in the universe. I will quote two verses that speak to me personally.

How can ye reject the faith in Allah?- seeing that ye were without life, and He gave you life; then will He cause you to die, and will again bring you to life; and again to Him will ye return. (2:28)
Were they created of nothing, or were they themselves the creators? (52:35)

I have thought about existence, and it is a paradox, almost an impossibility, yet here I am! The idea of anything actually exist is actually quite overwhelming, therefore, in my mind something must be eternal because out of nothing comes nothing. I find it more likely that that something is God. Call it intuition or whatever you want.

Another form of rhetoric that comes to mind is the following:

Allah is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; is firmly established on the throne (of authority); He has subjected the sun and the moon (to his Law)! Each one runs (its course) for a term appointed. He doth regulate all affairs, explaining the signs in detail, that ye may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord. (13:02)

Now obviously, if anybody were to look out, they would see that the sky is held up without any pillar. Although it is such an obvious fact, a lot of people go heedless of such things. Normally to a human mind a thing needs something to keep it up, however, the Qur'an shows points out to this simple, observable phenomenon to highlight the fact that things are not always as you would think they'd be. Some people in history believed that God or gods held up the Heavens with pillars, although probably invisible ones. The Bible is an example of such beliefs, for example, in Job 26:11 the pillars of the heavens are mentioned.

One of the main themes in the Qur'an is the Resurrection of the dead. So as not to be in doubt about the Resurrection the Qur'an addresses saying:

It is Allah Who causeth the seed-grain and the date-stone to split and sprout. He causeth the living to issue from the dead, and He is the one to cause the dead to issue from the living. That is Allah: then how are ye deluded away from the truth? (6:95)

It is He Who brings out the living from the dead, and brings out the dead from the living, and Who gives life to the earth after it is dead: and thus shall ye be brought out (from the dead). (3:19)

I think other prophecies are in order now. Here is one made in the Qur’an:

"Allah has promised those among you who believe and do righteous good deeds, that He will certainly grant them succession to [the present rulers] in the land, as He granted it to those before them, and that He will grant them the authority to practice their religion which He has chosen for them [i.e. Islam]. And He will surely give them in exchange a safe security after their fear [provided] they [believers] worship Me and do not associate anything [in worship] with Me." [Qur'an, 24:55]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of God) prophecised of many conquests. He told the Muslims that they would conquer the Arabian Peninsula, Persia and Byzantium. He said that the Last Hour would not come before the Muslims had conquered Jerusalem.

The Prophet(pbuh) also told that the Muslims (Arabs) will conquer Egypt and enjoined them to treat them well since they share common ancestry through Hagar(ra). Hagar was an Egyptian slave who bore Abraham Ishmael who is the ancestor of the Arabs.

He also once had a nap at Umm Haram's house. He woke up and told her that he had seen in his dream his followers sailing in the sea like kings. Umm Haram(ra) asked the Prophet(pbuh) to pray that she would be with them. He responded that she would. He again went back to sleep and woke up and told her about the same dream. She again asked him to pray that she would be a part of those people, he responded that she would be. Well, she ended up being a part of those people. This was the first time the Muslims took on to the sea. This was the idea of Mu'awiyah(ra), the fifth Caliph, though at the time he was just governor of Syria. Umm Haram joined his husband on a expedition against Cyprus. She died in Cyprus because she fell off the back of a mule and broke her neck.


God repeatedly points out the creation itself as a sign. It points out the origin of man.

For example, in the Qur’an, God says that man is created “from a quintessence/extract of the nature of a fluid despised (which is semen)”: (32:8). Furthermore, God says in the Qur’an that man is created out of a mingled drop (76:2). The reason why God says mingled drop is because in order for a human to be created the spermatozoid and the ovum need to mingle into a zygote, the mingled drop.

To continue on the matter of reproduction, I’d like to quote another verse from the Qur’an and give you a story which happened in the day of the Prophet (pbuh).

In whatever form He willed, He put you together (82:8)

Now, the story:

Once a man came complaining to the Prophet: “"My wife has given birth to a black child and I have disowned him!" The Messenger of Allah asked him: "Do you own camels?" The man said yes. "What color are they?" "Red." "Any gray ones among them?" "Indeed, there are gray ones among them!" "And how do you think this [color] came to them?" "Messenger of Allah, some strain must have drawn it out! (`irqun naza`ahu)." "Maybe the same happened here, some strain must have drawn him out." He did not allow him to disown him.

Even if today, in the age of science and technology, your wife gave birth to a black baby, what would your initial reaction be? Let me ask, were you to be back in 7th century Arabia where tribal lineage, family blood and offspring were considered of utmost importance, would you have solved this problem as the Prophet(pbuh) solved it?

Now, I want to focus our attention on astronomy. God mentions in the Qur’an that the Sun and the Moon “swim each in an orbit” (21:33). Many companions of the Prophet expanded on this verse by explaining that the Sun and the Moon “revolve like a spinning wheel, in a circle.” And as you know, the Sun and the Moon indeed do revolve in that manner, as in not only do they revolve in a circle but they also revolve around themselves like a spinning wheel.

Now, let us have a look at another subject. In the Qur’an, God swears “By the Firmament which returns (in its round),”. A companion of the Prophet(pbuh) commented on this verse by saying that the thing which the firmament (sky) returns is the sustenance (water) without which the creatures on Earth would perish. Another point of interest to mention along side this information are these verses from the Qur’an: “See ye the water which ye drink? Do ye bring it down (in rain) from the cloud or do We? Were it Our Will, We could make it salt (and unpalatable): then why do ye not give thanks? (56:68-70)

I want to bring another verse to the table.

And it is He Who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His mercy (rain). Till when they have carried a heavy-laden cloud (7:57)

As we know today through scientific means, the winds do carry the clouds, i.e keep them in the air, although they are very heavy-laden with rain water. I wonder if there is another ancient source that describes the winds as carrying the clouds because they are heavy. If anybody has any information on this, please let me know. But even if there is, it is a remarkable use of language.

Another example is how the clouds are formed:

Hast thou not seen how Allah wafteth the clouds, then gathereth them, then maketh them layers, and thou seest the rain come forth from between them; He sendeth down from the heaven mountains wherein is hail, and smiteth therewith whom He will, and averteth it from whom He will. The flashing of His lightning all but snatcheth away the sight.
(24:43)

As modern states, clouds actually grow in height.

I just wanted to add one more thing.

Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined together as one united piece, then We parted them And We have made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe (21:30)

Well, as we already know all living things are made of water. The Qur’an also asks a question – “Will you not then believe?”.

Three of the Companions of the Prophet said that the heavens and the earth are separated from one another by this air, i.e the air is a partition between the heavens and the earth. Now, what separates the earth from outer space?¨

This post is by no means an exhaustive list. There are other reasons but I haven't written about them myself so I didn't include them.
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:16 AM   #40
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I am also suffering loss of iman too. There are some laws of Islam that I utterly dislike and wonder how can God approve of it?
As-salamu alaikum

This is a good principal to live by:

Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. (2:216)

Also look at the story of Abraham (pbuh) who was ordered to present his son as a sacrifice and how they both submitted to God.
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