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Old 07-05-2011, 10:34 AM   #1
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Default Beware of Dr Zakir Naik


Dr Zakir Naik, quoted as saying (I also have the original audio clip):

"It is mentioned in Rig Ved (One of the religious books of hindus) Sages call One God by many names that means there are various names given to this One God. And Rig Ved alone gives no less than 33 different attributes of Almighty God most of which are mentioned in Rig Ved, Book no. 2, Hymn no. 1. And One of the beautiful attribute which is mentioned in Rig Ved of Almighty God is Brahma..... Brahma means 'The Creator' . If you translate into Arabic it means Khaliq WE MUSLIMS HAVE GOT NO OBJECTION IF ANYONE CALLS ALMIGHTY GOD ALLAH SUB'HANAHUWA TA'ALA AS "KHALIQ" OR "CREATOR" OR "BRAHMA". But if someone says "Brahma", is Almighty God, who has got four heads, on each head is a crown and he has got four arms we muslims take a strong objection to it............... Another beautiful attribute which is given in Rig Ved, Book no. 2, Hymn no. 1 Verse no. 3, is Vishnu. Vishnu means "The Sustainer". If you translate into Arabic it means 'Rab'. WE MUSLIMS HAVE GOT NO OBJECTION IF ANYONE CALLS ALMIGHTY GOD AS RAB OR CHERISHER SUSTAINER OR VISHNU. But if someone calls Vishnu, is Almighty God, who has four hands and one of his hands holds a chakra(disc).... and one of his left hands holds the..(unclear)... and he is riding on a bird, by reclining on a couch of snake we muslims take a strong objection to it............... Dr Zakir Naik is saying Muslims have no objection calling Allah by the Names "Brahma, Shiva, and Vishnu". Astaghfirullaah!

Many great ulamaa have strongly repudiated Dr Zakir Naik and his modern ideas. Zakir Naik always appears wearing suit and tie, and Ulamaa have warned against this as it is imitation of the kuffaar. He congradulates atheists for believing in part of the Kalimah "La ilaha".

Everyone should beware of him and not listen to his speeches or attend his conferences. He is astray leading others astray.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4m8y...eature=related
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Old 07-05-2011, 11:20 AM   #2
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Dr Zakir Naik, quoted as saying (I also have the original audio clip):



Dr Zakir Naik is saying Muslims have no objection calling Allah by the Names "Brahma, Shiva, and Vishnu". Astaghfirullaah!

Many great ulamaa have strongly repudiated Dr Zakir Naik and his modern ideas. Zakir Naik always appears wearing suit and tie, and Ulamaa have warned against this as it is imitation of the kuffaar. He congradulates atheists for believing in part of the Kalimah "La ilaha".

Everyone should beware of him and not listen to his speeches or attend his conferences. He is astray leading others astray.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4m8yFfFyS8&feature=related
Dear Brother, Assalaamoalaikum

A muslim must be careful not to put words in the mouth of another, words that one did not say nor had the intention to say.

Dr. Zakir Naik is speaking of the attributes of the Almighty as mentioned in the Rig Veda. Brahma (the Creator), and Vishnu (the Sustainer), he says, are the attributes of the Almighty as per their respective meaning. He says that, given these meanings, he finds no objection to anyone (he did not say specifically muslims) calling the Almighty by these names. Anything wrong in this interpretation?

We have come to learn and pronounce the attributes of Allah(SWT) in the Arabic Language. Allah(SWT) did not wait for the year 570AD to start spreading His Message, to Guide His Creation. He has been guiding His Creation since the creation of Adam(AS). And all the descendants of Adam(AS) did not speak Arabic. They spoke numerous languages, and Allah(SWT) revealed His Messages in different languages. Is it wrong to believe that Allah(SWT) also taught the Hindus - even though His Messages may have been distorted subsequently, as has happened for many other peoples?

Zakir Naik always appears wearing suit and tie, and Ulamaa have warned against this as it is imitation of the kuffaar .

I wear suit and tie - although not always. I do not think I am a kuffar during the time I am wearing same. Our Respected Ullama(May Allah(SWT) be pleased with them) are wrong on this issue. It is not by wearing arabic clothes that I am a muslim. Just to say that it is not because Dr.Naik wears suit & tie that he is a kaffir.

Everyone should beware of him and not listen to his speeches or attend his conferences. He is astray leading others astray. This is the problem with muslims. Do not read from this aqeeda, that aqeeda..... No posters, magazines, to be brought to masjid without permission of the Imam amd / or committee. Lest one falls victim to the message(s) of the other group. It is the duty of our Ullama to educate muslims correctly, to make muslims (as from childhood) understand Islam correctly. If one has correctly understood what Islam is all about, there would be no danger in reading anything or listening to the speeches of anyone.

Imagine what the situation in the secular field would have been, had the same philosophy of interdiction been applied there also. We would still have been in the stone age.

Brotherly yours
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Old 07-05-2011, 11:40 AM   #3
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Dear Brother, Assalaamoalaikum

Dr. Zakir Naik is speaking of the attributes of the Almighty as mentioned in the Rig Veda. Brahma (the Creator), and Vishnu (the Sustainer), he says, are the attributes of the Almighty as per their respective meaning. He says that, given these meanings, he finds no objection to anyone (he did not say specifically muslims) calling the Almighty by these names. Anything wrong in this interpretation?


First of all my dear, I must remind you of something very important: "Knowledge precedes speech and action."

If you do not have knowledge, please do not give your 2 cents. You can end up spoiling your Emaan. Guard your tongue (and in this case your fingers also). It is very dangerous for you to be saying that it is okay to call Allaah by the names "Brahma" and "Shiva". These are names of Hindu idols. Allah has no sent down any authority for these names.

Look what Allaah says in the Quraan:

"Have you not seen Laat and Uzza? And Manaat the third one....these are but names you have named, you and your fathers, for which Allaah has sent down no authority."

Now do you know what the name Uzza means? It means "Mighty One", does it mean it is okay to call Allaah by the name of "Uzza"...?? Of course not?

Allaah also mentions another idol:

Will you call upon Baal and forsake the Best of Creators? [Surah 37:125]

Baal is the name of another idol, and the name Baal literally means "lord". Does it mean it we can call Allaah as "Baal"??

So before you decide to give fatwa, please seek knowledge from the Ulamaa and stop trying to justify the big mistakes of Dr Zakir Naik.
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Old 07-05-2011, 01:49 PM   #4
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Ya Akhi Alaziz Abdul Qadir. Miraj Rabbani has probably excused him and i think you should excuse him as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UO16yuZdEM
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:05 PM   #5
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Ya Akhi Alaziz Abdul Qadir. Miraj Rabbani has probably excused him and i think you should excuse him as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UO16yuZdEM


In this matter we should also refer to some of the senior ulamaa, such as Allamah Abu Abdur Rahman Yahya ibn Ali al Hajoori of Dammaj, Yemen [hafidhahullaah] who has spoken at length and detail with regard to Dr Zakir Naik:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVZNoFH0u20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_SVg2Au2V8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i69Lud7y5No&feature=related
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:05 PM   #6
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Meraj Rabbani himself is one shady character. He can't recite the Qur'an properly either.
http://projectdeoband.blogspot.com/2...lth-by_07.html
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:12 PM   #7
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I agree with Dr.ati here.
Dr. Zakir Naik has made mistakes on the topic of Fiqh, but Allah has given him a very good ability to give Dawah to Non-Muslims. He has helped hundreds to convert to Islam. Everyone among us has good and bad in us. Lets concentrate on the good on others, After all he too is a Muslim. May Allah forgive his mistakes and guide him in the right path.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:17 PM   #8
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Meraj Rabbani himself is one shady character. He can't recite the Qur'an properly either.
http://projectdeoband.blogspot.com/2...lth-by_07.html
Seriously Disgusting video. We should not Nitpick on others mistakes like this.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:20 PM   #9
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Hadith - Bukhari's Book of Manners #313, Ahmad, Ibn Hibban, and Hakim

... 'Abd Allah reported that the Prophet of Allah said, "A believer is not a fault-finder and is not abusive, obscene, or course."


So if we start finding others faults, what does that make us?
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:22 PM   #10
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I agree with Dr.ati here.
Dr. Zakir Naik has made mistakes on the topic of Fiqh, but Allah has given him a very good ability to give Dawah to Non-Muslims. Everyone among us has good and bad in us. Lets concentrate on the good on others, After all he too is a Muslim. May Allah forgive his mistakes and guide him in the right path.


He has helped hundreds to convert to Islam.
He has made lots of muslims gumrah in his aqaid and still deviating others.
May Allah forgive his mistakes and guide him in the right path
Ameen and me too
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:49 PM   #11
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How does making mistakes while reciting Quraan mean you are a shady character? Astaghfirullaah. Didn't the Prophet say that those who struggle while trying to recite Quraan will get a double reward for their effort?

Secondly, there is a big problem with people constantly having this mantra "don't criticize someone for their faults, just concentrate on their good." Yes, this is what we do in ordinary circumstances, we should never criticize people for their faults.

However, when it comes to the DEEN, we have to be extremely careful who we take knowledge from. If someone is speaking in the name of Religion, then he has to be put under the microscope. The Muhaditheen didn't write books and books of ilm ul rijaal on ordinary people criticizing their faults, but they wrote books and books of ilm ul rijaal on people who were narrating Ahadeeth, because it is a matter of Deen and we have to be very careful.

I'm sure Dr Zakir Naik is a good person and a good Muslim. But when it comes to Deen, he is not qualified to get up on a podium in a conference of hundreds of people and on satelite TV because he can be the cause of misguidance for literally millions of Muslims. Therefore, when it comes to Deen, it is the duty of the qualified Ulamaa to examine very carefully everyone from among the Du'aat and relay their condition to the laity, so that we know who to take knowledge from and who to avoid.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:53 PM   #12
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Hadith - Bukhari's Book of Manners #313, Ahmad, Ibn Hibban, and Hakim

... 'Abd Allah reported that the Prophet of Allah said, "A believer is not a fault-finder and is not abusive, obscene, or course."


So if we start finding others faults, what does that make us?
I wish if this was shown to Mr. Meraj rabbani... He has labelled our ulemas as mushriks...
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:56 PM   #13
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I wish if this was shown to Mr. Meraj rabbani... He has labelled our ulemas as mushriks...
When your "ulamaa" propogate shirk, what should he call them? Muwahhideen?
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:00 PM   #14
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I'm sure Dr Zakir Naik is a good person and a good Muslim. But when it comes to Deen, he is not qualified to get up on a podium in a conference of hundreds of people and on satelite TV because he can be the cause of misguidance for literally millions of Muslims. Therefore, when it comes to Deen, it is the duty of the qualified Ulamaa to examine very carefully everyone from among the Du'aat and relay their condition to the laity, so that we know who to take knowledge from and who to avoid.

I agree with you, In matters of Deen it is important for the ulema to examine and let us know if there is any hint of misguidance in any public speakers. Though i think one should concentrate on the content rather than the person.
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:02 PM   #15
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When your "ulamaa" propogate shirk, what should he call them? Muwahhideen?
It is reported on the authority of Ibn `Umar Radi Allahu anhu that the Prophet (may peace and blessings be upon him) said: Any person who calls his brother: O Unbeliever! (then the truth of this label) would return to one of them. If it is true, (then it is) as he asserted, (but if it is not true), then it returns to him (and thus the person who made the accusation is an Unbeliever).
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:13 PM   #16
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oh yay!!!!

another "let's bash dr. zakir naik thread" fun, fun, fun!

seriously you people will attack dr. zakir naik for using the equivalent term of of "creator" and "sustainer" in ancient Sanskrit. some people really need to find more productive ways to spend their time or just take breaks from staring at their computer screens all day.
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:25 PM   #17
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How does making mistakes while reciting Quraan mean you are a shady character? Astaghfirullaah. Didn't the Prophet say that those who struggle while trying to recite Quraan will get a double reward for their effort?

Secondly, there is a big problem with people constantly having this mantra "don't criticize someone for their faults, just concentrate on their good." Yes, this is what we do in ordinary circumstances, we should never criticize people for their faults.

However, when it comes to the DEEN, we have to be extremely careful who we take knowledge from. If someone is speaking in the name of Religion, then he has to be put under the microscope. The Muhaditheen didn't write books and books of ilm ul rijaal on ordinary people criticizing their faults, but they wrote books and books of ilm ul rijaal on people who were narrating Ahadeeth, because it is a matter of Deen and we have to be very careful.

I'm sure Dr Zakir Naik is a good person and a good Muslim. But when it comes to Deen, he is not qualified to get up on a podium in a conference of hundreds of people and on satelite TV because he can be the cause of misguidance for literally millions of Muslims. Therefore, when it comes to Deen, it is the duty of the qualified Ulamaa to examine very carefully everyone from among the Du'aat and relay their condition to the laity, so that we know who to take knowledge from and who to avoid.
Mashallah you are very generous when it comes to Rabbani's mistakes. The problem is that this so called scholar quotes the Qur'an WRONGLY in his bayaans. If he does not know the Qur'an even then is he qualified to get upon a podium and give lectures and abuse every muslim under the sun? He should first go to a real scholar and get his Qur'an right before criticising anyone. Sirr libaas odh lene se 'alim nahin ban sakta.
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:26 PM   #18
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When your "ulamaa" propogate shirk, what should he call them? Muwahhideen?
We know that you have appropriated the title of Muwahhid for yourself. But your statements are like those of the Mulhideen.
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Old 07-05-2011, 04:22 PM   #19
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oh yay!!!!

another "let's bash dr. zakir naik thread" fun, fun, fun!

seriously you people will attack dr. zakir naik for using the equivalent term of of "creator" and "sustainer" in ancient Sanskrit. some people really need to find more productive ways to spend their time or just take breaks from staring at their computer screens all day.
Didn't you even bother to watch the videos that I posted? All the Ulamaa of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaa'at have concensus on this issue that the Asmaa ul husna are Tawqeefiyyah - must be substantiated by the Divine Texts.

The name brahma might mean creator in sanskrit, but it is a name that is associated with an idol. Likewise with the names vishnu and shiva. I also made this point that Allaah says to the mushrikeen that the names of their idols have no authority. One of their idols which is mentioned is Uzza, which in Arabic means "mighty one". So according to Dr Zakir Naik's logic, there should be no problem with calling Allaah as "Uzza"? In Quraan, it is also mentioned how Sayyidina Ilyas condemned his people who were worshiping an idol named Ba'al, which literally means "Lord". So again, according to Dr Zakir Naik's way of thinking, it is okay to call Allaah as Ba'al?
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